Post Processing
Nov 22, 2016 09:38:50 #
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Nov 22, 2016 11:36:20 #
bedwelljp wrote:
I am new to this, so was happy that Nikon actually give away Post Processing software. However I cant seem to find any Video tutorials that are worth watching to find out how to use it. I have found plenty of Light Room tutorials on YouTube, which seems an easy program to use. maybe I should switch. As an example in Light room adjusting for Blacks , Whites and colours seems quite straight forward , but the Nikon software has confused the hell out of me. Help anyone?
Nikon software is just as easy to use as Lightroom. But Lightroom is more powerful. Just play with the sliders in the software and you will learn.
Nov 22, 2016 16:53:20 #
I love Photoshop Elements. I believe Lightroom is related. Most of us have some version of it so great for technical questions. David
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Nov 22, 2016 21:19:16 #
i will strongly recommend the videos by Anthony Morganti,easy to understand step by step approach for lightroom and photoshop,joseph
Nov 23, 2016 00:53:16 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
Instead of Lightroom, I'd recommend you buy Photoshop Elements 15. It's less expensive and more of a full feature program.
Lightroom is primarily a cataloger/organizer and batch RAW converter with light image editing capabilities. It's really designed to be used with Photoshop, which is a heavy duty image editor with minimal cataloging & organizing capabilities, and basically one-at-a-time RAW conversions. All three - Elements, Lightroom and Photoshop - use the same basic RAW conversion engine: Adobe Camera Raw. It's "built into" Elements and Lightroom, a separate module in Photoshop. Someone who deals with very high volume of image really needs Lightroom... and might get by without Photoshop if they don't do very much image optimization. Someone who works with a low volume of images but wants to optimize them extensively might get by with Photoshop alone.
Elements has features borrowed from both LR and PS. It's more of a stand-alone program, plus it has built in learning tools. You can use it in highly guided beginner mode, or less guided intermediate mode, or when you feel like it in expert mode with little guidance. LR and PS don't have any sort of built in support like that. With them you're basically on your own to buy books, take classes, etc. LR isn't bad. A couple books and one or two classes is generally all that's needed to get up to speed. But PS has a long, steep, intensive learning curve... To really learn to use it fully would mean about a year's worth of college level courses and text books.
So I'd recommend starting with Elements and see if that doesn't do all you need. It costs about $80. Elements 15 has just come out, so there aren't many guide books specific to it yet, but there are some by several well-known authors expected in December and January. But, again, it's got a lot of built in support that should be fine getting you up and running.
Lightroom 6 can still be bought outright, with a perpetual license, for about $140.
Or, you can "rent" LR "CC" ("Creative Cloud") for $10 a month in combination with Photoshop CC. Photoshop is now only offered that way, as a cloud-based subscription. You cannot buy the current version of Photoshop outright.
Any of them can be downloaded for free 30-day trial from the Adobe website. That should be plenty of time to try Elements and see if you like it. 30-days might not be enough time for Lightroom... I'd suggest getting a book first, to have it on hand prior to the download. It's definitely not enough time to do much of an evaluation of Photoshop, let along PS and LR in conjunction with each other.
Lightroom is primarily a cataloger/organizer and batch RAW converter with light image editing capabilities. It's really designed to be used with Photoshop, which is a heavy duty image editor with minimal cataloging & organizing capabilities, and basically one-at-a-time RAW conversions. All three - Elements, Lightroom and Photoshop - use the same basic RAW conversion engine: Adobe Camera Raw. It's "built into" Elements and Lightroom, a separate module in Photoshop. Someone who deals with very high volume of image really needs Lightroom... and might get by without Photoshop if they don't do very much image optimization. Someone who works with a low volume of images but wants to optimize them extensively might get by with Photoshop alone.
Elements has features borrowed from both LR and PS. It's more of a stand-alone program, plus it has built in learning tools. You can use it in highly guided beginner mode, or less guided intermediate mode, or when you feel like it in expert mode with little guidance. LR and PS don't have any sort of built in support like that. With them you're basically on your own to buy books, take classes, etc. LR isn't bad. A couple books and one or two classes is generally all that's needed to get up to speed. But PS has a long, steep, intensive learning curve... To really learn to use it fully would mean about a year's worth of college level courses and text books.
So I'd recommend starting with Elements and see if that doesn't do all you need. It costs about $80. Elements 15 has just come out, so there aren't many guide books specific to it yet, but there are some by several well-known authors expected in December and January. But, again, it's got a lot of built in support that should be fine getting you up and running.
Lightroom 6 can still be bought outright, with a perpetual license, for about $140.
Or, you can "rent" LR "CC" ("Creative Cloud") for $10 a month in combination with Photoshop CC. Photoshop is now only offered that way, as a cloud-based subscription. You cannot buy the current version of Photoshop outright.
Any of them can be downloaded for free 30-day trial from the Adobe website. That should be plenty of time to try Elements and see if you like it. 30-days might not be enough time for Lightroom... I'd suggest getting a book first, to have it on hand prior to the download. It's definitely not enough time to do much of an evaluation of Photoshop, let along PS and LR in conjunction with each other.
Nov 23, 2016 05:44:59 #
bedwelljp
Loc: Chelmsford Essex - United Kingdom
Hi that sounds like very good advice. I have Elements 10 which I used a long time ago, when I did not know what RAW was. It quite inexpensive to upgrade so I think i will go down that route. I don't need to do any professional work on photos, just wanted the ability to enhance a few. Plus elements also gives the ability to play around with photos as well, and its all in the one program.
Since getting a bit more involved in this I have found a wealth of other programs which seem as powerful or more powerful than some of the well known ones you have to buy. Here is one worth a look and its all free. It seems there are some pretty enthusiastic developers out there benefiting the community.
http://rawtherapee.com/blog/rawtherapee-4.2-is-out
Since getting a bit more involved in this I have found a wealth of other programs which seem as powerful or more powerful than some of the well known ones you have to buy. Here is one worth a look and its all free. It seems there are some pretty enthusiastic developers out there benefiting the community.
http://rawtherapee.com/blog/rawtherapee-4.2-is-out
Nov 23, 2016 13:59:25 #
the problem with photoshop is it is not workflow friendly unlike lightroom,joseph
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Nov 23, 2016 15:41:33 #
bedwelljp
Loc: Chelmsford Essex - United Kingdom
Could you expand on that please, say with some examples.
Nov 23, 2016 15:47:16 #
bedwelljp
Loc: Chelmsford Essex - United Kingdom
I asked the question to Nikon regards the amount of information they allow 3rd party suppliers to access and its clear from their response it is all of it. its up to the software developer how much they utilise.and here is their response.
"Dear John,
Thank you for your email.
It is very possible that third party software does not fully utilise the Nikon RAW files 100%. However you would need to check with the third party software makers to check how much of the RAW file they utilise as Nikon are not involved in the writing of their software.
Nikon provide the information needed for third party companies to make their software compatible with our NEF files.
"Dear John,
Thank you for your email.
It is very possible that third party software does not fully utilise the Nikon RAW files 100%. However you would need to check with the third party software makers to check how much of the RAW file they utilise as Nikon are not involved in the writing of their software.
Nikon provide the information needed for third party companies to make their software compatible with our NEF files.
Nov 23, 2016 16:35:39 #
what i mean about workflow friendly is you can edit and process a single image without interruptions and move on to the next image and the images are indestructive and that's what i like about lightroom,joseph
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