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Nov 14, 2016 16:08:31   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
You are welcome. 5DIV, nice camera, eh? Love mine.

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Nov 14, 2016 16:55:10   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Nalu wrote:
You are welcome. 5DIV, nice camera, eh? Love mine.


Yes, I think this camera is amazing. The pictures are beautiful (well, hopefully I had something to do with that also).
I was able to adjust my focus on my 50mm Sigma lens in about 5 min.

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Nov 14, 2016 17:58:10   #
travisdeland Loc: deland, FL
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I want to get an extender for my Canon 70-200 L f/2.8. I'd like the 2x for extra reach but i'very read reviews that it isn't as shsrp6. What do you who have either of these (1.4 or 2) think?


I just traded in my Canon 2X TC. I was not happy with the results with my 70-200 f/4L, 300mm f/4L, or 400mm f/5.6L(manually focusing only). This teleconverter DID work very well with my 200mm f/2.8L. After I bought the 400mm, there really was no need for using the TC with the 200mm. If I need that kind of reach, I'll go with the Sig 150-600 and the 1.4 Sig TC. I did keep my Canon 1.4 TC and will readily use it with any of the aforementioned lenses-I'll often slip it in my pocket when out with the 70-200, as it's quick and easy to add when needed. Based on my experiences with the T3i, 7D, 70D, and 7D2, I think you'll be happier if you go with the 1.4-that's my .02

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Nov 14, 2016 18:17:13   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I want to get an extender for my Canon 70-200 L f/2.8. I'd like the 2x for extra reach but i'very read reviews that it isn't as shsrp6. What do you who have either of these (1.4 or 2) think?


Tracy, your desire for reach AND quality is understandable. Reviews are great for reference when doing as you, looking for development of your skills. But references need to be taken with a grain of salt. Only your eyes can answer whether or not the quality of T/C's is present. I have been using both on the 70-200mm f/2.8 and the 100-400mm f.4.5-5.6. II. From my experiences I have found that the T/Cs can be used with no loss of quality, and can also be used with great loss of quality. The difference is caused by the subject and background of the image. If your background is simple and clear, blue sky the image does not suffer too much at all, if any. A complex, intricate pattern will cause quality problems. High levels of light eliminate problems that shading can cause. This is a subjective area, not objective. The answer will depend upon your own opinion, and will be your's and your's alone. Photography is a series of trade-offs, you give to get. Is the extra reach worth the loss of image quality? Your call.

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Nov 14, 2016 19:02:55   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Nalu wrote:
Guess I did not read the original message carefully enough. Yes, with the 70/200 2.8 with the 2X is will be 5.6. And I did not realize she is using the 5DIV. As such all of her af functions will be available. Also, at 400mm with the 2x, there will be a little leeway re shooting techniques. Always best what ever converters, take the time to do a fine focus exercise to determine whether the focus is right on. I have two 1.4x and one 2X. Until just recently I had not taken the time to mess with the 2X. I fine tuned it and am now trying it out. Check out the junco below done with a 5DIV, 600mm IS II (f/4) and 2XIII, gimbal mounted (1/500, f/8, ISO 1250). Not the best of light, but if you look at the feather detail, it is still pretty sharp. So, in my mine, the 2X has plenty of opportunities especially in good light, especially with a 2.8 lens. Will I used it much compared to a 1.4X, probably not. Buy the 1.4 and maybe down the road add the 2X.
Guess I did not read the original message carefull... (show quote)

That's pretty good sharpness with a 2X extender

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Nov 14, 2016 23:01:50   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I want to get an extender for my Canon 70-200 L f/2.8. I'd like the 2x for extra reach but i'very read reviews that it isn't as shsrp6. What do you who have either of these (1.4 or 2) think?


Tracy, I have the 70-200 f2.8L IS and the Canon 1.4 Mk 2 extender and tested it from a tripod with controlled lighting using several different targets including an IEC standard target and compared it at several focal lengths both with and without the extender - you can see the results in this thread: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-374824-1.html. I found that the difference in IQ was negligible. Btw, there's a 1.4 MK2 for sale for $150 (which is a good price) in the for sale section that was just posted (not by me).

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Nov 15, 2016 05:38:52   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
I have both. Only use the 1.4x. Possibly the 2x would be used more IF I could find out why the results are so poor 8 tries out of 10. IY may be my technique but feedback suggests there's more to it. I don't have the patience to work it out.

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Nov 15, 2016 06:11:33   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I want to get an extender for my Canon 70-200 L f/2.8. I'd like the 2x for extra reach but i'very read reviews that it isn't as shsrp6. What do you who have either of these (1.4 or 2) think?


The recent moon shot was taken with Canon 7D mark 2, with 100-400 L (2), and 1.4 extender (3), on tripod. I do not have experience with the 2x, but the 1.4 is very nice.


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Nov 15, 2016 06:47:28   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Tracy, I have the 2.0 Mk III with that lens. I have not used it enough to give you my sharpness feedback. The autofocus with the 1dx Mk II is still very fast. Tony Northrup claims that the combination is sharper than the 100-400 lens. I'm not sure of that but I don't know why Tony would misrepresent it either. My suggestion would be to get the 2.0 Mk III from B&H, try it out and if you don't like the results return it for the 1.4 Mk III. They are the same price at B&H. I think you have 30 days to exchange or return it. That way you can judge for yourself.

I was at the local Biggs Camera store here in Charlotte yesterday and they had a used 100-400 Mk I and a new Tamron, I think that was the brand, that went out to 500mm they were trying to interest me in. The 500 is on special for around $1,000 until the 19th. I guess it is a new lens that just came out. Not something I'm looking for but they seemed to think it was very decent for the money. The 100-400 was about $750 I believe.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Nov 15, 2016 06:53:28   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I want to get an extender for my Canon 70-200 L f/2.8. I'd like the 2x for extra reach but i'very read reviews that it isn't as shsrp6. What do you who have either of these (1.4 or 2) think?


You lose about 25% sharpness with a 2X, but it might be ok with your lens - which is amazingly sharp. A bigger issue might be AF performance.

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Nov 15, 2016 07:07:39   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I think she will be OK on auto focus. She has in my opinion the second best autofocus system on a new Canon body. Only exceeded by the 1Dx Mk II.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Nov 15, 2016 08:11:41   #
wotsmith Loc: Nashville TN
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I want to get an extender for my Canon 70-200 L f/2.8. I'd like the 2x for extra reach but i'very read reviews that it isn't as shsrp6. What do you who have either of these (1.4 or 2) think?

I think that most of the folk who have replied don't know what they are talking about or are using older gear. For years "everyone" has said, you use an extender and you degrade quality. Well, go to Art Morris's website and look at his photos, see how many fabulous photos are shot with extenders.
My experience is that you can use 1.4x and 2x extenders and get incredibly crisp photos. You need good glass to start with and the highest quality extenders (and have very good technique). Morris even "stacks" one extender on top of another, and gets excellent quality. I suspect, but don't know, that Canon extenders are better with Canon lenses (which is what I use) and the same for Nikon. I will tell you that the latest extenders from Canon are better than the older ones. I'll post some photos all shot with extenders. You tell me if they are crisp.

So..... get either the Canon 1.4iii or the 2x iii and stick'em on your 70-200; you will get great results.
first photo is with 600mm plus 2x
second is 600mm with 1.4x
Hummer is with 300mm with 1.4x
loon is 300 with 1.4x


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Nov 15, 2016 08:17:24   #
Ginny Leger Loc: Hampton, NH
 
Prior to purchasing my extender I saw 3 photos taken: 1) actual photo. 2) using 1.4 teleconverter 3) using 2.0 teleconverter. It was easy to see the degradation of the photo. The 1.4 extender degradation wasn't that bad, whereas I personally thought the 2.0 was not acceptable for me.

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Nov 15, 2016 08:17:41   #
Ginny Leger Loc: Hampton, NH
 
Prior to purchasing my extender I saw 3 photos taken: 1) actual photo. 2) using 1.4 teleconverter 3) using 2.0 teleconverter. It was easy to see the degradation of the photo. The 1.4 extender degradation wasn't that bad, whereas I personally thought the 2.0 was not acceptable for me.

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Nov 15, 2016 08:33:37   #
mmatus
 
I bought about6 months past the ( Canon 1 x.4 extended.) i used it with my new Canon 100-400 mm & my Canon 7D Mark ll. I am a birder and this combo works for me.
I have also tried capturing the moon, so good results, It depends on what settings.
I also bought the Canon Lens 70-200 F-2.8, I used the (Canon 1 x.4 extended), some ok results

i would buy the Canon 1 x.4 extender-my opinion.

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