Amen!
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sirlensalot wrote:
If we were comparing "pro" techniques and or styles using a single 430 vs. Strobed umbrellas and/or soft boxes, then I would agree that the 430EXll would not be adequate for some posed shots, but that is not the issue. We were asked if we thought one flash would do the job, not the best job. You stated that the 430 would be fine for candids and some posed shots. I think these will be the majority of the shots taken when amateurs start out doing weddings whether by design or as a favor. The folks that want amateurs shooting their wedding usually ask because magazine quality is not a priority as well as cost. As long as the amateur explains their limitations regarding experience and equipment, the choice remains with the B&G. Weddings can be stressful, but they have their moments of joy as well. The photographer only needs to decline if they are uncomfortable with it.
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Yes, I believe I said most of these very same things. They way I read the OP's post, she will be the only photographer, meaning more than just candids and a few posed shots. Work with what you have, rent if you need to, hire a pro if you must. Once again,,,,, good luck.[/quote]
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra memory cards and batteries. Shoot jpegs and ISO 200. Photograph the events like a news story taking pictures of the outside of the chuch, reception hall, limo, wedding cake, etc. besides the obvious ceremonies, etc. Even include images of the wait staff, DJ, food, etc. Watch out for backgrounds and what is behind the people in your image. Shoot people at their tables and the dance floor. Capture special moments such as the first dance, father and bride, garter, boquet toss, etc. If you want to go to an extreme, attend a wedding at the church and take a couple of image and sort of crash a reption held at the same reception hall and take a few images. You can also check out locations fo bridal party images and watch where the photographer positions people for images as a starting ground. after done, transfer the images to CD (both full res and 150KB for the web). This way, they can decide what prints they want at their cost.PS - save a copy for yourself.
Lastly, be prepared to become the black sheep of the family - you know the one who let everyone down with the photos of the wedding.
mgemstone wrote:
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra memory cards and batteries. Shoot jpegs and ISO 200. Photograph the events like a news story taking pictures of the outside of the chuch, reception hall, limo, wedding cake, etc. besides the obvious ceremonies, etc. Even include images of the wait staff, DJ, food, etc. Watch out for backgrounds and what is behind the people in your image. Shoot people at their tables and the dance floor. Capture special moments such as the first dance, father and bride, garter, boquet toss, etc. If you want to go to an extreme, attend a wedding at the church and take a couple of image and sort of crash a reption held at the same reception hall and take a few images. You can also check out locations fo bridal party images and watch where the photographer positions people for images as a starting ground. after done, transfer the images to CD (both full res and 150KB for the web). This way, they can decide what prints they want at their cost.PS - save a copy for yourself.
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You are kidding aren't you?
If you would like a "shot list" to go by, let me know. I'd be happy to send you one,,,at least that way you'll be sure you don't forget anything and you'll get all the standards.
MWAC
Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
mgemstone wrote:
nikonshooter wrote:
mgemstone wrote:
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra memory cards and batteries. Shoot jpegs and ISO 200. Photograph the events like a news story taking pictures of the outside of the chuch, reception hall, limo, wedding cake, etc. besides the obvious ceremonies, etc. Even include images of the wait staff, DJ, food, etc. Watch out for backgrounds and what is behind the people in your image. Shoot people at their tables and the dance floor. Capture special moments such as the first dance, father and bride, garter, boquet toss, etc. If you want to go to an extreme, attend a wedding at the church and take a couple of image and sort of crash a reption held at the same reception hall and take a few images. You can also check out locations fo bridal party images and watch where the photographer positions people for images as a starting ground. after done, transfer the images to CD (both full res and 150KB for the web). This way, they can decide what prints they want at their cost.PS - save a copy for yourself.
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra... (
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You are kidding aren't you?
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About what?
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Did you really just tell the OP to shoot a wedding with a Canon 400D/Rebel XTi and the kit lens (18-55mm) in JPEG... a church wedding non-the-less?
Nothing like unsavable dark noisey mess for your newphew's wedding photos... sigh. Not to mention the lack of reach.
MWAC wrote:
mgemstone wrote:
nikonshooter wrote:
mgemstone wrote:
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra memory cards and batteries. Shoot jpegs and ISO 200. Photograph the events like a news story taking pictures of the outside of the chuch, reception hall, limo, wedding cake, etc. besides the obvious ceremonies, etc. Even include images of the wait staff, DJ, food, etc. Watch out for backgrounds and what is behind the people in your image. Shoot people at their tables and the dance floor. Capture special moments such as the first dance, father and bride, garter, boquet toss, etc. If you want to go to an extreme, attend a wedding at the church and take a couple of image and sort of crash a reption held at the same reception hall and take a few images. You can also check out locations fo bridal party images and watch where the photographer positions people for images as a starting ground. after done, transfer the images to CD (both full res and 150KB for the web). This way, they can decide what prints they want at their cost.PS - save a copy for yourself.
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra... (
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You are kidding aren't you?
quote=mgemstone Use what you have and use the 18-... (
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About what?
quote=nikonshooter quote=mgemstone Use what you ... (
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Did you really just tell the OP to shoot a wedding with a Canon 400D/Rebel XTi and the kit lens (18-55mm) in JPEG... a church wedding non-the-less?
Nothing like unsavable dark noisey mess for your newphew's wedding photos... sigh. Not to mention the lack of reach.
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...not to mention "sort of crash" another wedding reception.
MWAC
Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
GoofyNewfie wrote:
MWAC wrote:
mgemstone wrote:
nikonshooter wrote:
mgemstone wrote:
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra memory cards and batteries. Shoot jpegs and ISO 200. Photograph the events like a news story taking pictures of the outside of the chuch, reception hall, limo, wedding cake, etc. besides the obvious ceremonies, etc. Even include images of the wait staff, DJ, food, etc. Watch out for backgrounds and what is behind the people in your image. Shoot people at their tables and the dance floor. Capture special moments such as the first dance, father and bride, garter, boquet toss, etc. If you want to go to an extreme, attend a wedding at the church and take a couple of image and sort of crash a reption held at the same reception hall and take a few images. You can also check out locations fo bridal party images and watch where the photographer positions people for images as a starting ground. after done, transfer the images to CD (both full res and 150KB for the web). This way, they can decide what prints they want at their cost.PS - save a copy for yourself.
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra... (
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You are kidding aren't you?
quote=mgemstone Use what you have and use the 18-... (
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About what?
quote=nikonshooter quote=mgemstone Use what you ... (
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Did you really just tell the OP to shoot a wedding with a Canon 400D/Rebel XTi and the kit lens (18-55mm) in JPEG... a church wedding non-the-less?
Nothing like unsavable dark noisey mess for your newphew's wedding photos... sigh. Not to mention the lack of reach.
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...not to mention "sort of crash" another wedding reception.
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sorry I was in the middle of picking my jaw from my desk and didn't catch that little golden nugget. MAN.... sometimes I just can't believe the advice that is given to people on this forum.
MWAC wrote:
sorry I was in the middle of picking my jaw from my desk and didn't catch that little golden nugget. MAN.... sometimes I just can't believe the advice that is given to people on this forum.
I thought I felt the earth tremor. Maybe that was you!
MWAC
Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
I really hope the OP takes the advice of people who actually know what they are talking about and turns down the offer to shot this wedding. I'm sorry but the equipment he owns is not up to the tast at hand, add to the fact this is family, he's just asking for trouble and heartache.
OP go as a guest, enjoy the party. Let someone else stress about the photos and drama that could happen from any resulting "oh-ohs". You can't do a re-do for a wedding.
I say go for it! Obviously they feel your work is good enough for their wedding, that should be a compliment to you :) Just do the best you can, stay calm, and have FUN!
MWAC wrote:
mgemstone wrote:
nikonshooter wrote:
mgemstone wrote:
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra memory cards and batteries. Shoot jpegs and ISO 200. Photograph the events like a news story taking pictures of the outside of the chuch, reception hall, limo, wedding cake, etc. besides the obvious ceremonies, etc. Even include images of the wait staff, DJ, food, etc. Watch out for backgrounds and what is behind the people in your image. Shoot people at their tables and the dance floor. Capture special moments such as the first dance, father and bride, garter, boquet toss, etc. If you want to go to an extreme, attend a wedding at the church and take a couple of image and sort of crash a reption held at the same reception hall and take a few images. You can also check out locations fo bridal party images and watch where the photographer positions people for images as a starting ground. after done, transfer the images to CD (both full res and 150KB for the web). This way, they can decide what prints they want at their cost.PS - save a copy for yourself.
Use what you have and use the 18-55mm. KISS! Extra... (
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You are kidding aren't you?
quote=mgemstone Use what you have and use the 18-... (
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About what?
quote=nikonshooter quote=mgemstone Use what you ... (
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Did you really just tell the OP to shoot a wedding with a Canon 400D/Rebel XTi and the kit lens (18-55mm) in JPEG... a church wedding non-the-less?
Nothing like unsavable dark noisey mess for your newphew's wedding photos... sigh. Not to mention the lack of reach.
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..... forget the type of equipment being used... my complaint is : having a guest not knowing the proper set-up and action phot shoot required to make the decent and proper images of such an important day in one's life. Oweing a set of steak knives doesn't make for a medical doctor.. Good intent and a camera, doesn't make a guest a pro.. GOD-forbid, it turns out to be a lousy photo shoot, there goes the friendship. due to snap shots...
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Ashley2003 wrote:
I say go for it! Obviously they feel your work is good enough for their wedding, that should be a compliment to you :) Just do the best you can, stay calm, and have FUN!
"Be calm and have FUN"... is such a POOR answer. Certainly when the important shots are missing, could lead to a broken relationship.
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