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Nov 6, 2016 13:40:21   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
phlash46 wrote:
Go back on your meds...

Read the title and do get your own pills, you need them for your chemical anger management treatment. They work, I think.

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Nov 6, 2016 15:21:54   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
MtnMan wrote:
I recently got the GM5. It is a very cool machine. Love the weight and size. But it would require a large pocket even with the kit lens that comes with it. There might be a pancake wide angle that will work. Adorama had it on sale with lens for $459 a few weeks back when I bought it.

Be aware battery life could be an issue with it. I got a couple of higher storage no names with it: they work much better than the Panasonic. But due to the touch screen and EVF you'll only get about a day from a battery. Maybe less if cold.

Where I plan to use it charging will not be a problem. Most chargers now come with simple European plug adapter.
I recently got the GM5. It is a very cool machine.... (show quote)


Are you satisfied with the IQ? The other alternatives don't seem to satisfy my size criterion!

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Nov 6, 2016 16:05:04   #
markie1425 Loc: Bryn Mawr, PA
 
UHH has so much good information for every level of photographer. No person can know everything, although some members might deny that. I read UHH every day and am grateful to all of you who share your experience and knowledge.

Having said that, there seems to a small number of members who get their jollies from negative comments, insults and otherwise non-productive postings.

I wish that they would either clean up their individual acts or else be thrown off by UHH moderators.

Anger management, take your meds and such comments really don't belong here.
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Nov 6, 2016 16:32:01   #
le boecere
 
markie1425 wrote:
I have both the LX100 and the Canon S95. Eash is good for a different situation, but that big Lumix sensor beats the Canon's little one every time.

I feel sorry for the masses who are turning away from traditional camera shapes in favor of their cellphones. Taking pictures with a glass-coated graham cracker just doesn't compare with the ergonomics of even a basic point-and-shoot camera.
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"...observe the masses and do the opposite."

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Nov 6, 2016 17:39:21   #
geoglass
 
I'd go with an RX100iii, the camera I took to Europe last year. Built-in flash, viewfinder, great fast lens, and very compact. Don't bother wirh changing lenses on a trek. You can pick up a used one on Amazon for around $500, and you can get an excellent fitted neck strap case on Ebay for a fraction of the price of a Sony case.

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Nov 6, 2016 17:42:35   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
geoglass wrote:
I'd go with an RX100iii, the camera I took to Europe last year. Built-in flash, viewfinder, great fast lens, and very compact. Don't bother wirh changing lenses on a trek. You can pick up a used one on Amazon for around $500, and you can get an excellent fitted neck strap case on Ebay for a fraction of the price of a Sony case.

I'll check it out. I know it is the right size. I wonder how the IQ compares with M43?

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Nov 6, 2016 17:57:27   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
geezer7 wrote:
I'll check it out. I know it is the right size. I wonder how the IQ compares with M43?
I have both a Panasonic LX100 with the M4/3 and the original RX100 with the 1". I know if I pixel peep I should be able to spot differences. I've never tried to do that with matched shots. Instead my personal test is printing to 13x19 on a Canon Pro-100 inkjet printer. The prints from both are wonderful.

The RX100 (original version) was my primary camera for both travel and everything else for a year or so. The only reason I changed was to add 4K video capability. The LX100 was the first small "travel camera" that could do that. Now the current RX100 IV and V can do that. 4K clips are limited in length due to heat in the RX100 and not in the LX100.

I do have a larger camera for special purposes, especially wildlife. Except for that, the LX100 remains my primary camera. Until I get a new house with walls for a dozen or two 30x40 prints, I won't need anything else.

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Nov 7, 2016 01:45:46   #
le boecere
 
bsprague wrote:
I have both a Panasonic LX100 with the M4/3 and the original RX100 with the 1". I know if I pixel peep I should be able to spot differences. I've never tried to do that with matched shots. Instead my personal test is printing to 13x19 on a Canon Pro-100 inkjet printer. The prints from both are wonderful.

The RX100 (original version) was my primary camera for both travel and everything else for a year or so. The only reason I changed was to add 4K video capability. The LX100 was the first small "travel camera" that could do that. Now the current RX100 IV and V can do that. 4K clips are limited in length due to heat in the RX100 and not in the LX100.

I do have a larger camera for special purposes, especially wildlife. Except for that, the LX100 remains my primary camera. Until I get a new house with walls for a dozen or two 30x40 prints, I won't need anything else.
I have both a Panasonic LX100 with the M4/3 and th... (show quote)


A truly informative and experiential testimonial.

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Nov 7, 2016 02:01:00   #
le boecere
 
geezer7 wrote:
I'll check it out. I know it is the right size. I wonder how the IQ compares with M43?


Earlier this year, I went through a similar decision making process, having the trial use of both cameras (LX100 & RX100) available from a fellow photographer. The RX100III won out simply because I chose "pocketable" over incrementally larger sensor-size (and its apparent benefits).

My conclusion was and still is; once the camera will no long fit in a pants pocket, I need to find another means of carrying it; and that opens up many more options in both m4/3 and APS-C. Truly "pocketable" (and the RX100's barely are) was the essential go/no-go, for me.

_Van

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Nov 7, 2016 10:03:10   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
le boecere wrote:
A truly informative and experiential testimonial.
Thank you for the nice compliment!

I might add that small cameras with high quality add a lot to my personal joy of photography. I've lost all interest in owning a DSLR.

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Nov 7, 2016 16:55:40   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
le boecere wrote:
Earlier this year, I went through a similar decision making process, having the trial use of both cameras (LX100 & RX100) available from a fellow photographer. The RX100III won out simply because I chose "pocketable" over incrementally larger sensor-size (and its apparent benefits).

My conclusion was and still is; once the camera will no long fit in a pants pocket, I need to find another means of carrying it; and that opens up many more options in both m4/3 and APS-C. Truly "pocketable" (and the RX100's barely are) was the essential go/no-go, for me.

_Van
Earlier this year, I went through a similar decisi... (show quote)


Thanks. That is exactly the information I needed. Your comment "the essential go no-go" sums up my situation perfectly. I don't find the D7100 a burden to carry so if I can't find a camera to fit in my pocket that is markedly better than my S90 then I'll stay with what I have and use the S90 for hiking and the D7100 for city-type travel. I have an Optech sling that keeps the D7100 close to my chest without the camera flopping around which I find pretty comfortable.
My choices seem to be the GM5 or some version of the RX100. I'm getting a feeling that the GM5 may not be very pocket friendly? I wish I could find a place to see it. I'm also not thrilled with the red cover on the GM5 but I could live with it!

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Nov 9, 2016 17:21:23   #
latebloomer Loc: Topeka, KS
 
I purchased an Olympus Pen F for a trip to Sicily. A great travel camera, particularly with the 14-40 pancake lens. With the small spider holster on your belt it is secure and leaves both hands free. It takes great pictures. It is not a camera for fast action sports etc. It is also pricey. I love the size and how it fits in my hands (I take Extra Large gloves). Also, the viewfinder being on the left side of the camera is a real bonus, if you are right eyed. The Olympus lenses are quite compact.

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Nov 9, 2016 17:33:18   #
le boecere
 
latebloomer wrote:
I purchased an Olympus Pen F for a trip to Sicily. A great travel camera, particularly with the 14-40 pancake lens. With the small spider holster on your belt it is secure and leaves both hands free. It takes great pictures. It is not a camera for fast action sports etc. It is also pricey. I love the size and how it fits in my hands (I take Extra Large gloves). Also, the viewfinder being on the left side of the camera is a real bonus, if you are right eyed. The Olympus lenses are quite compact.


I like your mini-review, Terry. (have long been a closet Oly admirer) ~ Thanks for posting it.

_Van

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Feb 12, 2017 11:44:00   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
I thought I should respond to this old topic. I am the OP and bought the Panasonic GM-5 and recently took it to Florida for a month on the beach. I was able to find a compact carrying case, the Lowepro Dashpoint 20 which will hold the camera, a 12-32mm pancake lens and a spare battery and fit on my belt or a strap on my backpack. There is also a pocket in the lid which holds an SD card. All in all I am happy with the choice and used the camera for several long hikes. The IQ is adequate for my purposes and the EVF allows me to hold the camera to my face thus reducing the effects of camera shake. The GM-5 with lens will fit in a pants pocket but it is a tight fit and definitely not for someone who wears skinny jeans! At 72 that is not an issue for me!
Just wanted to thank everyone who responded and to let them know what I concluded.

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Feb 12, 2017 12:43:53   #
le boecere
 
geezer7 wrote:
I thought I should respond to this old topic. I am the OP and bought the Panasonic GM-5 and recently took it to Florida for a month on the beach. I was able to find a compact carrying case, the Lowepro Dashpoint 20 which will hold the camera, a 12-32mm pancake lens and a spare battery and fit on my belt or a strap on my backpack. There is also a pocket in the lid which holds an SD card. All in all I am happy with the choice and used the camera for several long hikes. The IQ is adequate for my purposes and the EVF allows me to hold the camera to my face thus reducing the effects of camera shake. The GM-5 with lens will fit in a pants pocket but it is a tight fit and definitely not for someone who wears skinny jeans! At 72 that is not an issue for me!
Just wanted to thank everyone who responded and to let them know what I concluded.
I thought I should respond to this old topic. I a... (show quote)


We don't always get to see the conclusion of these threads, geezer, so thanks for posting this. Sounds like a wonderful little camera and kit for your purposes. (me thinks I'll go have a look at the GM-5)

_Van

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