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Oct 28, 2016 18:00:38   #
old man 88 Loc: Palmview, TX when not on road
 
I have been using one like this for years, cost around $60.00.
Works Great not in way and will serve as remote also.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Camera-GPS-Receiver-Geotag-GP-1-for-Nikon-D3100-D3200-D5200-D5300-D7100-D610-D90-/271794609546?hash=item3f48389d8a:g:twEAAOSwEeFU9rLO

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Oct 28, 2016 21:32:16   #
cpkeith
 
I shoot with the Nikon 7100 and D810. I have Solmeta Geotsgger GPS on each camera and just love it. Three axis E-compass, MTK3339 choose for fast satellite capture, and support for remote trigger/shutter release are standard. Now for the best part... Slide on to the hot shoe or camera strap, hook it in, turn your camera on and it is quickly ready to go. On each sho it gives you the coordinates, your altitude, and direction you took the sho (N, NNE, ENE, E, etc). When you load your photos into Lightroom, the photos are automatically referenced on the map and you can click on each marker and see the photo you took there as well as the title if you add it during processing. Well built, high reliability. My cost was $149. I had to buy two different ones because my Nikon's have different connectors. Check Amazon for Solmeta Geotsgger N3-c or N3-a. Hope this helps.

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Oct 28, 2016 22:50:49   #
cpkeith
 
I shoot with the Nikon 7100 and D810. I have Solmeta Geotsgger GPS on each camera and just love it. Three axis E-compass, MTK3339 chip set for fast satellite capture, and support for remote trigger/shutter release are standard. Now for the best part... Slide on to the hot shoe or camera strap, hook it in, turn your camera on and it is quickly ready to go. On each shot it gives you the coordinates, your altitude, and direction you took the sho (N, NNE, ENE, E, etc). When you load your photos into Lightroom, the photos are automatically referenced on the map and you can click on each marker and see the photo you took there as well as the title if you add it during processing. Well built, high reliability. My cost was $149. I had to buy two different ones because my Nikon's have different connectors. Check Amazon for Solmeta Geotsgger N3-c or N3-a. Hope this helps.

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Oct 28, 2016 23:21:34   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
MtnMan wrote:
Look at the Pansonic Lumix Micro 4/3 options. There are several.

I just got the DMC-GM5 at a great price. It is a teeny travel camera with big camera features. While it does not have installed GPS it has a WIFI link that can use the GPS in your smart phone. It does RAW, has a viewfinder, interchangable lenses, etc.
I'm invested in the Pansonic system. The WIFI link to your smartphone is complex, hard to get going, is confusing and lacks decent instructions. But, I think it works.

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Oct 29, 2016 01:03:44   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Frank W wrote:
Did I hear you mention you wanted a new camera anyways ??? :-) Nikon D 5300 has built in GPS, and not that expensive.


In a lot of cameras, built-in GPS is a power hog... greatly reducing battery life and shots per charge.

That's just something to watch for, if looking at cameras with it built-in. (An external module with its own power supply might be better.)

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Oct 29, 2016 04:26:04   #
thott Loc: GERMANY, Hessen
 
amfoto1 wrote:
In a lot of cameras, built-in GPS is a power hog... greatly reducing battery life and shots per charge.

That's just something to watch for, if looking at cameras with it built-in. (An external module' with its own power supply might be better.)


I read some GPS reviews of the D5300 that the TTFF (time to first fix) is with several minutes quite long.
Except you load a A-GPS file that predicts for the next days the satellite positions to find them more fast.

- What is the experience of users with built in GPS receiver within the camera?
- When you switch of the camera again a TTFF starts?
- What time usually takes a hot start after it is in stby?
- Is the battery drain acceptable during operation and stby?

A internal GPS solution is in principle the best one. No gambling with cables, no connected receivers which
can damage the connectors, you do not take care during carrying within the camera bag or to attach/detach
the receiver regularly.

With my D750 I had no other chance to decide for the external solution and in this case for the direct
connected receiver to avoid fumbling around with cables.
The other pre-requisit was to let it permanently installed.
With the hot shoe solution it is quite impossible. But with the direct connected and a protection
it can be solved.
The mobile phone solution was for me out of the question. Too complicated and with hundreds of photos
too time consuming.

So, what we are asking for: a internal GPS receiver, with a TTFF in seconds, position & compass
and a negligible power consumption :-)

Which camera has it? I guess no one :-(

Greetings
Thomas

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Oct 29, 2016 05:00:24   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
thott wrote:
I read some GPS reviews of the D5300 that the TTFF (time to first fix) is with several minutes quite long.
Except you load a A-GPS file that predicts for the next days the satellite positions to find them more fast.

- What is the experience of users with built in GPS receiver within the camera?
- When you switch of the camera again a TTFF starts?
- What time usually takes a hot start after it is in stby?
- Is the battery drain acceptable during operation and stby?

A internal GPS solution is in principle the best one. No gambling with cables, no connected receivers which
can damage the connectors, you do not take care during carrying within the camera bag or to attach/detach
the receiver regularly.

With my D750 I had no other chance to decide for the external solution and in this case for the direct
connected receiver to avoid fumbling around with cables.
The other pre-requisit was to let it permanently installed.
With the hot shoe solution it is quite impossible. But with the direct connected and a protection
it can be solved.
The mobile phone solution was for me out of the question. Too complicated and with hundreds of photos
too time consuming.

So, what we are asking for: a internal GPS receiver, with a TTFF in seconds, position & compass
and a negligible power consumption :-)

Which camera has it? I guess no one :-(

Greetings
Thomas
I read some GPS reviews of the D5300 that the TTFF... (show quote)


How accurate do you want to be? Pentax has a GPS but it is designed more for astro tracing rather than position as such it adjusts the position of the sensor in order to avoid streaks in long exposures. On the other hand how accurate a fix do you need?

Would taking a photo of your GPS be enough? Using a notepad seems to be too much work. If your GPS is laying down a track you can find a few programs which will import the track and apply it to a series of photo's, the photo idea can still be a good idea since there is likely to be an offset in the camera time v the GPS time. How much does it matter where you are would within a 1000 feet, a mile be close enough?

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Oct 29, 2016 05:25:49   #
thott Loc: GERMANY, Hessen
 
blackest wrote:
How accurate do you want to be?
[.....]
[.....]


It must not be military grade.
I just want to see were we took the pictures. Doesn't matter if it is 10,20,30m differences.
That is why I do not ask for accuracy.
For private photos I think every accuracy on the market is sufficient.

And I (my be others need it) do not need tracking the route. Just the position data within the EXIF
file.

The GPS of the Pentax with its Astro tracking possibilities needs a much more precision as
I would request it for my needs.

I think without this special appplication, the most important is a acceptable cold start time, a
hot start within seconds and acceptable battery drain.
My first priority is the start time. If I always have to wait minutes for satellite tracking, for me
it would be inadmissible.

Greetings
Thomas

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Oct 29, 2016 09:27:40   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
thott wrote:
It must not be military grade.
I just want to see were we took the pictures. Doesn't matter if it is 10,20,30m differences.
That is why I do not ask for accuracy.
For private photos I think every accuracy on the market is sufficient.

And I (my be others need it) do not need tracking the route. Just the position data within the EXIF
file.

The GPS of the Pentax with its Astro tracking possibilities needs a much more precision as
I would request it for my needs.

I think without this special appplication, the most important is a acceptable cold start time, a
hot start within seconds and acceptable battery drain.
My first priority is the start time. If I always have to wait minutes for satellite tracking, for me
it would be inadmissible.

Greetings
Thomas
It must not be military grade. br I just want to ... (show quote)


How is your Aokatec GPS working out for you at this point Thomas?

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Oct 29, 2016 10:25:04   #
thott Loc: GERMANY, Hessen
 
WayneT wrote:
How is your Aokatec GPS working out for you at this point Thomas?


It works surprisingly quite accurate.
Outside of the cities it is mainly in the
range of better than 33ft, seldom worse.
Within cities, surrounded by building it could be also more than 33ft due to the
signal reflection by the buildings.

Within a building mostly the signal is lost.
Then the last position will be used. Better than nothing :-)
For me it is pretty sufficient. Until now
I am not disappointed until now
considering also the low price.....

Greetings
Thomas

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Oct 29, 2016 13:01:29   #
RonBoyd
 
Okay, I have a Garmin NuviCAM that creates a GPX file every time it opens. It took about a half hour, in Lightroom, to GEO Tag 4,756 images (from a Canon 7D). It would have taken only a matter of minutes if I hadn't had to Import each of 15 GPX files separately.

I simply follow the instructions given in the above tutorial that I posted -- 1. Highlight target images, 2. "Load Tracklog" and then 3. "Autotag Photos." What could be simpler than that?

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Oct 29, 2016 13:54:44   #
RonBoyd
 
As I was backing up the image files after my GPS experiment, I discovered what may or may not be important. When you use Lightroom (or any other program, I suspect) to write the metadata, the GPS data is written to a Sidecar File (XMP) because, of course, one cannot write to a RAW file. If the GPS Receiver is part of the camera equipment (internally or externally), the GPS Coordinates are embedded in the RAW file. I haven't checked to see if derivative Jpeg files would contain the data but suspect so. Anyway, if you don't save the XMP files, this solution may not be practical.

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Oct 29, 2016 14:51:01   #
thott Loc: GERMANY, Hessen
 
blackest wrote:
How accurate do you want to be?
[.....]
[.....]



That is a sample of the accuracy of the AK-G750.

When you download and open the file and check the GPS data within the EXIF at a map, it was nearly exactly the position in the
city were I took the photo (may be +/- 2m).

Impressive for this tiny gadget.....


Greetings
Thomas


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Oct 29, 2016 15:08:37   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
thott wrote:
It works surprisingly quite accurate.
Outside of the cities it is mainly in the
range of better than 33ft, seldom worse.
Within cities, surrounded by building it could be also more than 33ft due to the
signal reflection by the buildings.

Within a building mostly the signal is lost.
Then the last position will be used. Better than nothing :-)
For me it is pretty sufficient. Until now
I am not disappointed until now
considering also the low price.....

Greetings
Thomas
It works surprisingly quite accurate. br Outside ... (show quote)


Thanks Thomas, mine just came in the mail. I'll be setting it up and trying it out probably tomorrow.

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Oct 30, 2016 05:21:26   #
thott Loc: GERMANY, Hessen
 
RonBoyd wrote:

[.....]
.. the GPS data is written to a Sidecar File (XMP) because, of course, one cannot write to a RAW file. If the GPS Receiver is part of the camera equipment (internally or externally), the GPS Coordinates are embedded in the RAW file. I haven't checked to see if derivative Jpeg files would contain the data but suspect so. Anyway, if you don't save the XMP files, this solution may not be practical.



Thank you for the information!

I didn't know this. One reason more to decide for a camera GPS version.....

The jpg file out of the raw file keeps the GPS data. With Capture One Pro.. I do not know if it
is the same with other raw post processing programs.

Greeting
Thomas

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