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Oct 24, 2016 17:15:21   #
whitewolfowner
 
PNagy wrote:
I have been planning to get a solid state drive, but bigger. I delayed it to be able to complete some jobs I owe to some clients. Looks like I ended up losing even more time by not dropping everything to complete the update.



Study what's available for your computer; not all SSD's are created equal.

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Oct 24, 2016 19:11:01   #
forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA
 
Giving myself airs, when speaking Spanish, I identify myself a "Don." Always for laughs and to break the ice, but sort of like you do with Nagy.

Your mention of Hungarian-language Nagy Karoly (Karl ~ Charles) usage has a little-known feature which is the final "y", which [ee] sound reliably indicated noble standing earlier. So you are not only great but of the nobility!!!

In Hungarian, nagy means big (adj.) and, as you suggest, has been suitably extended in Hungarian usage to Nagy as "the Great".
Yeah about Charlemagne, but it derives from Lat. for "big Karl/Charles" -- Karolus Magnus. This origin in Latin accounts for the similar "Karol" root of the Hungarian name.

My favorite Mr. Big story is from a French newspaper headline in Montreal I saw about "Monsieur Big" whose identity is still not known; he was the brains behind a successful hijack of a gold shipment in the early-mid seventies at Dorval, the Montreal airport. So, the French speak of, say, le Grand Condé as great, including a capital G, but the French have a separate usage taken strictly from English's Mr. Big.

The whole topic is fraught...As I recall, and I am unsure, in Russian, the Prussia-born Catherine the Great is sometimes simply Yekaterina, written with Cyrillic's epsilon/єстъ (but pronounced, [Yay]). However, she is likewise "the Great: Екатерина II Велика. This optional simplification is just like Fredrich is simply Friedrich and also Friedrich der Grosse. And then we have Alexander (the Great). Apparently, if you are great enough, you don't need "the Great," as in Napoleon.


PNagy wrote:
I truly appreciate you thoughtful and useful comments.

I am also impressed that you know my name means "Big," actually "the Great." Charlemagne is Nagy Karoly. Katherine the Great is Nagy Catalan. I tell people my middle name is "the," and that I am great in name only.

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Oct 24, 2016 19:21:03   #
forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA
 
Oops! Sent this and realized that what I said about nobility applies to the name, Karoly, but not to your name, Nagy.
Your family name has three letters in Hungarian, N, a, and gy. So your family name lacks the y indicator of nobility.
Maybe you'll have to arrogate unto yourself, as I do, a Don! ;>)

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Oct 24, 2016 21:05:47   #
tovie
 
Some good suggestions have been made. Another thing to check are "Login Items"- all those apps that start automatically when you boot/restart. Go to Apple Menu>Users & Groups>Login Items tab. (For you as the current user in the left panel). Make sure all items are legit' and called for. Select any that are not and remove them with the minus sign.

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Oct 24, 2016 22:13:43   #
DJO
 
Could be a virus. I have a Mac. A few years ago it slowed to a snail's pace. I paid $149.00 to have it cleaned up. A job well done at a reasonable price; it has been as good as new ever since.

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Oct 24, 2016 22:41:28   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
I safe booted my computer this morning and so far it has run very well. I am keeping all the great information in the thread, though because I may have further problems. I am grateful and appreciative of all the help i have received, and impressed with your knowledge, everyone.

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Oct 25, 2016 02:45:01   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Can you pull the HD out of a Mac and connect it via USB, Thunderbird, or whatever mystical name Apple calls external ports? With a new machine, you'll be starting from scratch, right? So you can copy your data over to the new system.

Mac sure makes it tough.

What little do you know? Mac and PC hardware are quite alike, Intel Processors, SATA drives. . . USB is USB regardless. The real differences are in the OS. Apple built Mac OS on UNIX, but Windows is still backward compatible with DOS!

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Oct 25, 2016 15:57:43   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
Howard5252 wrote:
I set my 15" MacBook Pro on two pieces of pressed foam; this keeps it off the desk and allows air under the bottom which helps to keep it cool.
I'm going to repair my MacBook one of these days. . . I looked online and a cooling fan is about $45.
It is kind of a low priority now, but whenever I get around to it, I might as well upgrade it too. Either get more use out of it or retire it permanently.

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Oct 25, 2016 16:18:25   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
When I am not in safe mode, my Mac is still excruciatingly slow. I will upgrade the hard drive to a solid state one and hope for the best.

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Oct 25, 2016 17:21:59   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
PNagy wrote:
When I am not in safe mode, my Mac is still excruciatingly slow. I will upgrade the hard drive to a solid state one and hope for the best.


It seems to me that it is time to do a clean install of osx, now with your current situation you might be best to install to a usb hard drive, for the short term, there will be a bit of a performance hit since it is usb not sata but you should find the operating system snappier. I'm thinking along the lines you need minimal downtime. You can create a usb stick installer for osx or perhaps burn to a dual layer dvd.

Alternatively you might also take a look at login items for your user (in preferences users and groups) you may be auto starting a few unnecessary programs. Its rather unfortunate most software companies tend to think the world resolves around their software which tends to lead to auto starting update services and quick launch whatever. When you do get reinstalled avoid all software that promises to speed up your mac , compress ram, ect. These are generally snake-oil.

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Oct 25, 2016 19:48:31   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
PNagy wrote:
About two months ago my Mac PowerBook 17 (early 2011) began to slow down very badly whatever I asked it to do. Soon it started informing me that I was out of disc space, even though I had over 250 GB left on my hard drive.

The action I took made it better, but not good, or even acceptable. I replaced the four GB of RAM with 16, and upgraded the OS to El Capitan. Some of the software runs worse on El Capitan than it did on Lion, but nothing runs well. It takes forever to load most internet pages. Photoshop is way too slow. IMovie stalls forever on most tasks, and crashes often.

My Apple and MacTuneup utilities tell me there is nothing wrong with my hard drive. I have two photo jobs, a video job, and a writing job that are past due. Only Microsoft Word works well enough to use in any business setting. The only thing I can think of, short of ditching this computer, is to replace the hard drive with a solid state one. I would appreciate informed ideas on what might be the problem, and how to proceed against it.
About two months ago my Mac PowerBook 17 (early 20... (show quote)


You don't mention what versions your software are? If they are "Lion era" they are at least 4 generations old without upgrade. Don't blame your computer for your failing to run up to date software. Especially if you run a business where you can write off the cost of upgrading your software.

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Oct 25, 2016 19:53:02   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Ummm How so?? Sierra just came out.... No problems with My Computer after the Sierra upgrade...............
The great thing about Mac is the Free Tec support. If the OP had some free time I would call and have them run through the computer and see if they can help. More likely to pin point the problem..


No problems IF your software is compatible. Lightroom 5.7won't run on Siena!

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Oct 25, 2016 19:54:16   #
BobU Loc: Sarasota Florida
 
I have owned quite a few Mac laptops, and most all had the same issue when they get older.

The cooling systems seem to get slightly less effective, ( even if the fans and radiators were cleaned and blown off ). I have seen this with some older iMacs as well.

Apple likes to design for thin cases and quiet running. The fans idle at pretty low speeds. If the cooling system becomes less efficient, the system gets too hot after extended use and can start slowing down, crashing or having video issues etc.

In every Mac laptop I have used, I loaded "smcfancontrol" which allows you to specify a higher "lowest" fan speed. By increasing the default lowest speed by 20%, the systems became stable again and worked well, at the cost of slightly higher fan noise. This app also shows you the processor temp in the upper left tab area.

A 2011 machine with 16gb ram and a quad core processor should not be a slow machine. A Solid state drive and a fresh OS install may make it come alive again. Some 2011 Macbookpros also had video chip issues which Apple is still fixing. (at no charge). They did mine two weeks ago. A 17" macbook Pro I7, 2011.

Hope this info helps..

Bob

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Oct 26, 2016 03:52:12   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
romanticf16 wrote:
You don't mention what versions your software are? If they are "Lion era" they are at least 4 generations old without upgrade. Don't blame your computer for your failing to run up to date software. Especially if you run a business where you can write off the cost of upgrading your software.


The OS installed at the time the problems began was Lion. After the installation of El Capitan, the problems abated only slightly, but remained very bad. I cannot ascribe the problems to the old OS alone, when the computer was working fairly well until just a couple months ago, when it began a downward spiral.

Today I had a solid state drive installed, but the installation of an OS failed. It took forever, then the process was aborted. That happened twice. Now I have to take the computer to Apple just to have the OS installed.

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Oct 26, 2016 03:54:50   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
BobU wrote:
I have owned quite a few Mac laptops, and most all had the same issue when they get older.

The cooling systems seem to get slightly less effective, ( even if the fans and radiators were cleaned and blown off ). I have seen this with some older iMacs as well.

Apple likes to design for thin cases and quiet running. The fans idle at pretty low speeds. If the cooling system becomes less efficient, the system gets too hot after extended use and can start slowing down, crashing or having video issues etc.

In every Mac laptop I have used, I loaded "smcfancontrol" which allows you to specify a higher "lowest" fan speed. By increasing the default lowest speed by 20%, the systems became stable again and worked well, at the cost of slightly higher fan noise. This app also shows you the processor temp in the upper left tab area.

A 2011 machine with 16gb ram and a quad core processor should not be a slow machine. A Solid state drive and a fresh OS install may make it come alive again. Some 2011 Macbookpros also had video chip issues which Apple is still fixing. (at no charge). They did mine two weeks ago. A 17" macbook Pro I7, 2011.

Hope this info helps..

Bob
I have owned quite a few Mac laptops, and most all... (show quote)




Thanks, the fan app is new information to me. I had the video problem, but about nine months ago Apple foxed it for free.

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