Military Soldiers (Page 3): G.W. Bush started an illegal war with Iraq - a fact. WMD was not found - a fact, so Bush/Cheney deserve every bit of the anger and wrath they receive.

toma1940 Loc: Silicon Valley, CA

G.W. Bush started an illegal war with Iraq - a fact. WMD was not found - a fact, so Bush/Cheney deserve every bit of the anger and wrath they receive. Before Bush, WMD was defined as nuclear weapons, not chemical, biological, etc. The US provided Saddam Hussein chemical weapons and Rumsfeld was the US representative who met with Saddam with the okay.

GeneS Loc: Glendale,AZ

That's why we vote back in to office the same Politicians we bitch about, every election.
Why doesn't the ballot say incumbent.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

GeneS wrote:

That's why we vote back in to office the same Politicians we bitch about, every election.
Why doesn't the ballot say incumbent.

Yes,they should also print instructions on the bottom of boots to tell people how to empty the pee out.

nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL

canonuser644 wrote:

We have term limits, it's called election day. We cry to high heaven about our legislators then re elect them over and over. It's not the politicians fault, it's the folks who vote them in's fault. We need to pay less attention to the party title and find out what they really believe and vote for.In other words we need an informed electorate.
Mel

The problem with calling election day term limits is that most voters now are one issue voters, and that one issue is what freebie am I getting from the government that I want to continue. The takers have now outnumbered the givers and the democratic party has cleverly used this to their advantage by promising to keep giving by income re-distribution!

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

nimbushopper wrote:

The problem with calling election day term limits is that most voters now are one issue voters, and that one issue is what freebie am I getting from the government that I want to continue. The takers have now outnumbered the givers and the democratic party has cleverly used this to their advantage by promising to keep giving by income re-distribution!

Yes,that totally Dem Congress is killing us!

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

toma1940 wrote:

G.W. Bush started an illegal war with Iraq - a fact. WMD was not found - a fact, so Bush/Cheney deserve every bit of the anger and wrath they receive. Before Bush, WMD was defined as nuclear weapons, not chemical, biological, etc. The US provided Saddam Hussein chemical weapons and Rumsfeld was the US representative who met with Saddam with the okay.

Sorry......you're wrong.

"weapon of mass destruction (WMD or WoMD) is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to human-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere."

Simple.

Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ

DaveO wrote:

On NPR recently,a senatorial candidate being interviewed stated to the effect that VA care would be dramatically improved if we stopped sending our folks to war. Struck me as being something to ponder.

Yes, true.
And if we stopped selling booze, we'd have far less people requiring care from DUIs.
Oh, wait...

toma1940 Loc: Silicon Valley, CA

You quote the "modern" terminology. Research WMD before the Bush era.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Big Bill wrote:

Yes, true.
And if we stopped selling booze, we'd have far less people requiring care from DUIs.
Oh, wait...

Two great ideas!

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

toma1940 wrote:

You quote the "modern" terminology. Research WMD before the Bush era.

Nope. The U.N. tasked a committee to develop the all-inclusive definition (i.e. Chemicals, biological, radioactive, atomic explosive) way before Bush. I think it was 1948.

You can see Occasional Paper 8 by Carus for some history on this.

Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ

daplight wrote:

Be wary with possible results of 'term limits,' what may happen will be professional staff and lobbyists 'guiding' the inexperienced and revolving door representatives through the intricacies of Washington BeltWay politics. How can we monitor back door policies, and who do we blame then?

I think most would be surprised at the number of congresscritters who sign off on legislation without reading it, not even having a basic understanding of it, much less of any consequences, intentional or otherwise. They sign off or don't at the guidance of their staff, who may or may not have ulterior motives, such as their continuing paychecks.
And, IMO, "beltway" politics is one of the biggest problems with our government.

machia Loc: NJ

canonuser644 wrote:

We have term limits, it's called election day. We cry to high heaven about our legislators then re elect them over and over. It's not the politicians fault, it's the folks who vote them in's fault. We need to pay less attention to the party title and find out what they really believe and vote for.In other words we need an informed electorate.
Mel

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍!!!

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Big Bill wrote:

I think most would be surprised at the number of congresscritters who sign off on legislation without reading it, not even having a basic understanding of it, much less of any consequences, intentional or otherwise. They sign off or don't at the guidance of their staff, who may or may not have ulterior motives, such as their continuing paychecks.
And, IMO, "beltway" politics is one of the biggest problems with our government.

Who can forget "we must pass it to find out what's in it"!

I personally believe that the Congress should be held to the same rules as public company business executives.....they sign financial documents personally verifying their validity. Thus, Congress should only be allowed to vote on ANY bill after signing documents saying they read the fcuking bill!

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Big Bill wrote:

I think most would be surprised at the number of congresscritters who sign off on legislation without reading it, not even having a basic understanding of it, much less of any consequences, intentional or otherwise. They sign off or don't at the guidance of their staff, who may or may not have ulterior motives, such as their continuing paychecks.
And, IMO, "beltway" politics is one of the biggest problems with our government.

Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ

canonuser644 wrote:

We have term limits, it's called election day. We cry to high heaven about our legislators then re elect them over and over. It's not the politicians fault, it's the folks who vote them in's fault. We need to pay less attention to the party title and find out what they really believe and vote for.In other words we need an informed electorate.
Mel

I will disagree somewhat.
While it's true that elections are supposed to filter out the bad pols, we have very recently seen that elections can easily be illegally manipulated to help one particular hopeful.
And, I am constantly surprised at how many simply uninformed voters there are. These people are targeted by campaign posters with just a name on them, going for simple name recognition, with no regard whatsoever for actual policies.
Then there are those who will vote their party, no matter what.

For these reasons, a lot of very bad politicians get re-elected a lot.