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Sep 30, 2016 08:54:04   #
Ron SS Loc: Silver Spring, MD
 
Motorbones has it correct.
Paranoia is an unreasonable concern. There are occasions of reasonable concern. Be proactive and protect your community by courteously approaching and engaging possible suspect actions - with care.
The times they are a'changing. FBI reports show 7,712 encounters between law enforcement and “known or suspected terrorists” in the US between July 20, 2015 and July 20, 2016.

Yes, most street 'photographers' are not threats, but some can be. Such photographing and 'surveillance' definitely has occurred prior to incidents. Be especially wary of picture takers near houses of worship, schools, and military and public entities, including transportation, energy and water hubs.

This may be new to many in the US, but being wary of photographing in public has long been of concern in many countries. I was warned many years ago in Hungary by a Hungarian native when I was about to photograph a Soviet compound in Budapest. I was stopped by police photographing a beautiful tile mural in a Moscow subway station. He wanted my camera. There are street signs in some European cities forbidding photography in those vicinities.

Don't be paranoid.
But do be aware!

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Sep 30, 2016 08:55:53   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/11420/




Jerry thanks for posting the lyrics. I should have done that as well. But I get caught up in the experience of the SOUND of the song that I keep forgetting that many people would prefer a fast read thru.

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Sep 30, 2016 08:56:50   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
nikonbug wrote:
Maybe you should look at your local and national charter for Neighborhood Watch. In all cases, the protocol is to remain in the distance and observe while calling it in. You are never to confront, unless you want to repeat what happened in Florida. You are not the police!



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Sep 30, 2016 09:08:53   #
fazgeo Loc: Albany, NY
 
Hi, I do Real Estate Photography for Banks of mostly Foreclosure houses or people that are taking out loans. sometimes the
houses are empty and sometimes people are living there, if someone is there they usually don't say any thing because they
know they owe. Sometimes neighbors approach me and ask what I'm doing and I explain, never had a problem
Neighbors usually don't know the other persons situation. I always keep my work order, ID and business cards handy.

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Sep 30, 2016 09:12:37   #
AlColter Loc: Michigan
 
Help, Help, The sky is falling.

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Sep 30, 2016 09:18:18   #
texashill Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
I have done exterior price opinions for companies that service banks for years. These reports include photos of the house, front angle of the house, house numbers, street view, street sign. Usually it is a distressed situation or one bank selling a portfolio of loans to another. The homeowner is not aware that a report has been ordered. I usually can take all photos from within my car but I am aware that I look suspicious just as does the guy in the photo. These reports are being done everyday all over the nation.

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Sep 30, 2016 09:35:54   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Today virtually everyone has a camera and video capability, call it a phone though...
A lot of people carry a consealed weapon, some open carry a gun.
Me, I carry a big old Canon!

And the open carry really gets people excited...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Sep 30, 2016 09:53:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The only ones around here that are paranoid seems to be the police. In one community, for good reason, or so they think.
--Bob


JD750 wrote:
The following statement was posted on the "Nextdoor my_neighborhood" web site*.

"My neighbor photographed this guy taking pictures of my house a few days ago. Thoughts?"

My point in posting this is to illustrate the level of paranoia about cameras in today's society.

Even of it's not legally required, it helps the publics image of photographers to be a good citizen and talk to people before taking pics of their property.



FYI - My response was:
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Taking pictures is not a crime, ok? No reason to be paranoid. I can't tell what type of camera from the pic. Cell phone? Professional Camera?

So nice car, does not look like your typical low life's car. You say he was taking pictures of your house but he was facing the other way in the pic so perhaps he was taking pictures of the neighborhood. It is legal to do that from the street. Could be he was a photographer and wanted some stock photos of a nice neighborhood. Maybe a Realestate agent, wanted pics of the neighborhood for his brochures. City worker, taking pics of the trees. I walk around the neighborhood with my camera and take pics, it's my hobby. But I always ask before pointing the camera at someone's house. But not everybody does that.

If you see that car again you might want to ask him "what's up?" but otherwise I don't think you need to worry.
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*I find that we site to be an excellent use of social media. It facilitates communication between neighbors, about events, crime, and other happenings in the neighborhood.
The following statement was posted on the "Ne... (show quote)

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Sep 30, 2016 10:13:02   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
JD750 wrote:
The following statement was posted on the "Nextdoor my_neighborhood" web site*.

"My neighbor photographed this guy taking pictures of my house a few days ago. Thoughts?"

My point in posting this is to illustrate the level of paranoia about cameras in today's society.

Even of it's not legally required, it helps the publics image of photographers to be a good citizen and talk to people before taking pics of their property.



FYI - My response was:
********
Taking pictures is not a crime, ok? No reason to be paranoid. I can't tell what type of camera from the pic. Cell phone? Professional Camera?

So nice car, does not look like your typical low life's car. You say he was taking pictures of your house but he was facing the other way in the pic so perhaps he was taking pictures of the neighborhood. It is legal to do that from the street. Could be he was a photographer and wanted some stock photos of a nice neighborhood. Maybe a Realestate agent, wanted pics of the neighborhood for his brochures. City worker, taking pics of the trees. I walk around the neighborhood with my camera and take pics, it's my hobby. But I always ask before pointing the camera at someone's house. But not everybody does that.

If you see that car again you might want to ask him "what's up?" but otherwise I don't think you need to worry.
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*I find that we site to be an excellent use of social media. It facilitates communication between neighbors, about events, crime, and other happenings in the neighborhood.
The following statement was posted on the "Ne... (show quote)



My first thought was a private investigator. I agree with most other posters; you definitely need to find out what he was up to. IMHO, anyone photographing your property without asking is suspect. If you have the license plate # you can call the local police. They won't give you any info up front, but they will investigate and report back to you. If you live in a small town, you are much more likely to get police help. If you're in a big city, forget it. They have bigger fish to fry. >Alan

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Sep 30, 2016 10:15:43   #
JimBart Loc: Western Michigan
 
Same as taking pictures of cars at shows or in public I always ask before taking a shot of the rear of the vehicle due to the plate You run a plate search you can find out a lot I always cover mine when I sho my vehicle

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Sep 30, 2016 10:19:07   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Paranoia is getting out of control.
Keep in mind that most homes in the US are available to view anytime on Google Street View. Also can get an overall top view from Google Earth. Too many people out there looking to be offended or imposed on in my view. Too many people think they are junior police officers. And they worse part is they don't understand what they are saying or doing with regard to your rights.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Sep 30, 2016 10:21:32   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
If Google images was taking their photos in this manner, it would take them a thousand years to complete the project.

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Sep 30, 2016 10:22:01   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
In most places he's got a perfect right to take photos from the street. You also have the right to ask him about it. Since you know he's not doing anything illegal why start something?
There was a neighborhood guy in Florida that went up to a guy and asked him what he was doing and the guy lit in to him and the one ended up dead with the neighborhood guys life ruined.

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Sep 30, 2016 10:26:16   #
hcmcdole
 
burkphoto wrote:
One of the funniest pictures I've EVER seen is that of a young woman FLASHING the Google Earth car. (It was taken by another photographer standing nearby.)

She was wearing a bikini under a stylish raincoat, and was winking at the camera. I always wondered whether any form of that image made it onto the Google Maps or Google Earth site. (Usually, Google blurs out people who show up in their street photos.)


I've seen stories where some couples have set up fake public sex if they knew the Google car is going to be driving by that day. There have been some street scenes where dead bodies were in the street as the car drove by. The grim side of street view?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/07/australian-couple-sex-google-street-view_n_3058977.html

On another note I took some photos of The Mall of Georgia years ago where the mall cops drove up to our car and asked what I was doing and informing me it was illegal to take photos of the outside of the mall. Glad they didn't confiscate my memory chip but I did put the camera away...

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Sep 30, 2016 10:27:10   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
aellman wrote:
If Google images was taking their photos in this manner, it would take them a thousand years to complete the project.


Google uses their Street View cars... They drive down the street taking 360 degree images...IIRC.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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