Huey Driver Loc: Texas

PNagy this one is for you and other anti-gunners

I was thinking about this after our discussion yesterday and am curious about your answer and solution.

Here's a scenario that happens way to often:

It's night and you are awakened by someone breaking in to your home. You discover it's two armed intruders. What are you going to do. You don't have a firearm.

1. Call the cops? Police response time is not very good in most towns and cities. By the time they arrive you could be wounded, captive or even dead. Doesn't sound like a good option to me.

2. Try to hide. Where? The intruders are looking for valuables so they probably will search the house.

3. Try to escape from your house. Ok maybe, but can you get past the intruders without them seeing you?

4. Ask them to leave your house? Remember they are armed and are probably not playing.

I am curious about your solution? Do you have a good one and a plan?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

So, let's say there IS a God in Heaven, a loving God, and a gun suddenly appears in PNagy's hand, loaded and ready for action.

Statistics show he's more likely to shoot himself or one of his family than he is to shoot your mythical intruders.

This from a gun owner who understands statistics.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Huey Driver Loc: Texas

I'm glad you understand statistics. But, you avoid answering the question. In this scenario what are you going to do to possibly save your life and that of your family?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

First of all, I live in a community in which that is very unlikely, and that choice is part of my defense.

Second, my guns are locked up, so using them is probably unlikely. I could keep one under my pillow, where it is more danger to me or my guests than to any thugs. (I have no children living in my house.)

Should your scanerio occur, probably even calling the police would be impossible. Do you think the thugs will let me phone?

So there is a good chance my wife would be raped and I beaten up or murdered. They wouldn't get much for their efforts unless they're smart enough to take my cameras, but then thugs aren't brilliant or they wouldn't be thugs, would they?

I have some pepper spray to discourage bears, but I don't keep it in the bedroom.

So, probably I would be beaten up or murdered.

Now, I answered you; you answer me:

You wake up in the middle of the night, hearing a disturbance in the living room; you load up and go to investigate, apprehensive as anyone would be, and you end shooting a family member. How would you feel?

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

I have often thought the very same things. At night we are upstairs and only one way down. All I can rhink of hiding in suitable place for baseball bat swinging or sword swinging. But I have neither. My only defense is having strong doors securely locked. Enough. Who knows. If I had a gun would I have the skill in the dark in the heat of the moment to hit the target.

Huey Driver Loc: Texas

Obviously I would feel terrible if that were to happen. But that being said it's a risk vs. reward situation. First I am properly trained with firearms. Both militarily and as a civilian. I'll take my chances having and knowing how to use a firearm in the situation you mentioned. Obviously there is always the chance for human error in every situation even driving a car. But some things we just have to do regardless. I know a lot of gun owners and not one that I know has ever had a mishap like you mentioned. I think when you say the chances are greater that you will shoot someone you don't intend to shoot or yourself I think that stat is put together from the anti-gunners. I would like to see real unbiased documentation to support that statement.

Second, my guns are locked up, so using them is probably unlikely. I could keep one under my pillow, where it is more danger to me or my guests than to any thugs. (I have no children living in my house.)

Should your scanerio occur, probably even calling the police would be impossible. Do you think the thugs will let me phone?

So there is a good chance my wife would be raped and I beaten up or murdered. They wouldn't get much for their efforts unless they're smart enough to take my cameras, but then thugs aren't brilliant or they wouldn't be thugs, would they?

I have some pepper spray to discourage bears, but I don't keep it in the bedroom.

So, probably I would be beaten up or murdered.

Now, I answered you; you answer me:

You wake up in the middle of the night, hearing a disturbance in the living room; you load up and go to investigate, apprehensive as anyone would be, and you end shooting a family member. How would you feel?[/quote]

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

A very mature approach, whatever your decision. Consider the bear spray, though it can be used against you, and will drive you out of the house for a day if you use it.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

You loaded the dice.
Your version of God left off one very important item that a loving God who went to the trouble to give PNagy a gun would have been included.
The training in use of the gun and self defense. Oh, and that includes the judgement/attitude.

One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID

So far the expert on everything has not answered the question.

bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.

for your scenario we need just about everyone fully trained in crisis gun use. in an age where gun safety is stressed , unless your guns are locked up, you could face charges if someone get's hurt. for awhile I slept with a loaded .45 in the headboard of my bed, while I worked 2 nd shift my wife wore a .38 on her hip. we were lucky, no accidents or break-ins.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Wait a minute Huey, I answered your question and left one for you to answer--which you are afraid to do.

I think you better quit talking until you own up.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

Yes, YOU are trained but what about "everyone" else who is NOT.

They didn't have a background check, they didn't have training and they don't have a license.
But, you DO have a gun.

How do all of the "untrained" firearms owner's respond to this scenario?

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

http://fox8.com/2016/09/16/family-fights-back-pastors-wife-shoots-armed-would-be-robber/

Happened last night. Liberals would prefer to capitulate or succumb to the attacker- I guess they figure they can remarry and start over if the criminals don't kill them all. However it is your right- difference is this discussion is about the consideration of limiting MY right to defend myself, where as i don't care if you do or don't.

Twardlow is doing something wrong with his weapons, some of my firearms are now in their 3rd generation of ownership in my family, are indistinguishable from current new weapons, and they don't have single human body or even injury on them, despite existing for most of their life on an open rack with ammo readily available nearby and being held countless hours loaded and thousands of rounds through them. Funny how that common sense works.

I will say I am glad he keeps his under lock and key- he obviously is much safer that way. Maybe he should post a sign outside his house declaring their current safe keeping. Like "Gun Free Zone" or "Guns hopelessly unavailable for immediate use"... "Take my wife... Please"

Huey Driver Loc: Texas

Thought I answered any question that was asked of me. Must have missed it repost and I'll try to answer.