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Rockin' What You Got - Lesson 2 (May 25th)
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May 27, 2012 18:43:11   #
mknmemries54 Loc: Missouri
 
OK! here I go again. I did cheat on image 1/4000. It was very dark so I zapped it with Paint Shop Pro.

Hi Jennifer, I looked at your exif data and they are both the same.
It does look like for some reason your camera picked a different white balance for each picture, there is nothing wrong. :)

If you look at #1 the bowl has more of a yellow tint, in picture #2 it's more blue. They are both exposed the same

ISO 400, F8, 1/160
ISO 400,  F8,   1/160...

ISO 400, F5, 1/1000
ISO 400,  F5,  1/1000...

ISO 400, F5, 1/4000
ISO 400,  F5, 1/4000...

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May 27, 2012 19:17:02   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
kerfree wrote:
Hi MWAC and fellow Rockin' friends!
The hardest part of this challenge for me was to get clearly visible water splashes. I appreciated Indie's suggestion, but still managed to soak myself, my dog and, hate to admit it, my camera, as I tried to create splash effects with three different sprinkler heads. In the end I just practiced the shutter speeds on the little waves lapping the lake shore, Thankfully it is was a gorgeous day here in Maine and an awesome excuse for outdoor water play!


Nice set. I love the "smokey" look of the water at your last settings.

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May 27, 2012 19:41:56   #
sford122 Loc: Amarillo TX
 
Here is my first set. I didn't see enough of a change from 1/160 and 1/1000 SS's so I took additional settings. All are at ISO 200 and at 70mm on my Tamron 70-300. It was super bright and hot here today with winds gusting from 30-35 mph. I did get a light mist on my lens but it cleaned up okay. I really am learning to be more careful with my camera. I want to try again later this week, if not so windy. I do like the differences that I'm able to see so far though. These are 1/6, 1/60, 1/160, 1/1000 and 1/4000. At 1/4000, you can see shadows of the water droplets on the red bull. I did crop these but did not make any other adjustments post editing.

1/6
1/6...

1/60
1/60...

1/160
1/160...

1/1000
1/1000...

1/4000
1/4000...

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May 27, 2012 20:18:23   #
Peanut Loc: St Augustine, Fl
 
Well this has been a great experience for me...i get the speed thing Ok but still not totally getting it with the ISO. i found i had to dial up or down so not too dark or too light but i guess if i keep practicing i will get it. This is the very first time i have slowed water down.

slow 1/15
slow 1/15...

med 1/125
med 1/125...

fast 1/250
fast 1/250...

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May 27, 2012 20:51:26   #
gdwsr Loc: Northern California
 
Great job Peanut. The fountain was an excellent choice for the challenge -- really shows the effect of shutter speed.

Peanut wrote:
Well this has been a great experience for me...i get the speed thing Ok but still not totally getting it with the ISO. i found i had to dial up or down so not too dark or too light but i guess if i keep practicing i will get it. This is the very first time i have slowed water down.

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May 27, 2012 21:02:34   #
Peanut Loc: St Augustine, Fl
 
gdwsr wrote:
Great job Peanut. The fountain was an excellent choice for the challenge -- really shows the effect of shutter speed.

Peanut wrote:
Well this has been a great experience for me...i get the speed thing Ok but still not totally getting it with the ISO. i found i had to dial up or down so not too dark or too light but i guess if i keep practicing i will get it. This is the very first time i have slowed water down.


Thank you...i was quite excited ;-)

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May 27, 2012 21:16:04   #
gdwsr Loc: Northern California
 
Peanut wrote:
gdwsr wrote:
Great job Peanut. The fountain was an excellent choice for the challenge -- really shows the effect of shutter speed.

Peanut wrote:
Well this has been a great experience for me...i get the speed thing Ok but still not totally getting it with the ISO. i found i had to dial up or down so not too dark or too light but i guess if i keep practicing i will get it. This is the very first time i have slowed water down.


Thank you...i was quite excited ;-)

My only recommendation is that you should have shot it in 3D :D

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May 27, 2012 21:41:09   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
Not exactly what you specified, but... shot at a small stream.

First shot: 1/2 second at ISO 200, f/20
Second shot: 1/1000 second at ISO 200, f/5.0

Nikon D5000, shot in Raw. Tthe one taken at 1/1000 was seriously underexposed and had to be adjusted. I had the ISO fixed at 200 and should have let it go up to 1600.

Still, enough to make the point, I hope.





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May 28, 2012 10:23:47   #
Peanut Loc: St Augustine, Fl
 
gdwsr wrote:
Peanut wrote:
gdwsr wrote:
Great job Peanut. The fountain was an excellent choice for the challenge -- really shows the effect of shutter speed.

Peanut wrote:
Well this has been a great experience for me...i get the speed thing Ok but still not totally getting it with the ISO. i found i had to dial up or down so not too dark or too light but i guess if i keep practicing i will get it. This is the very first time i have slowed water down.


Thank you...i was quite excited ;-)

My only recommendation is that you should have shot it in 3D :D
quote=Peanut quote=gdwsr Great job Peanut. The ... (show quote)


Hhhmmnnn i missed that lesson lol

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May 28, 2012 12:11:20   #
mknmemries54 Loc: Missouri
 
I am not happy with my camera. I can't seem to get what is needed for the assignment. They all look the same to me. Can someone check it out & let me know what else I need to do????

ISO 400, SS 1/160 F stop 3.6
ISO 400, SS 1/160   F stop 3.6...

ISO 400, SS 1/1000 F Stop 3.6
ISO 400, SS 1/1000 F Stop 3.6...

ISO 400, SS 1/4000 F stop 3.6
ISO 400,  SS 1/4000 F stop 3.6...

ISO 400, SS 1/60 F stop 3.6
ISO 400, SS 1/60   F stop 3.6...

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May 28, 2012 14:50:55   #
bawlmer Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
mknmemries54 wrote:
I am not happy with my camera. I can't seem to get what is needed for the assignment. They all look the same to me. Can someone check it out & let me know what else I need to do????


First, I would increase the water flow to create some visible splash. Also, you might want to bump up the ISO to maybe 800 just to brighten the photos a bit. Make sure your white balance is set for the type of lighting, which I would guess is tungsten. Shoot your first photo at 1/160. Shoot the second photo at 1/1000 or higher if you can, to freeze the splash. Lastly, shoot a third photo at 1 or 2 seconds. See what kind of results you get. :)

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May 28, 2012 15:48:36   #
mknmemries54 Loc: Missouri
 
Thank you bawlmer, is this any better???? not sure. I feel like I'm dense and I need to just give up!!!! I don't see it, I didn't get the last assignment either.
quote=mknmemries54]I am not happy with my camera. I can't seem to get what is needed for the assignment. They all look the same to me. Can someone check it out & let me know what else I need to do????[/quote]

bawlmer wrote:

First, I would increase the water flow to create some visible splash. Also, you might want to bump up the ISO to maybe 800 just to brighten the photos a bit. Make sure your white balance is set for the type of lighting, which I would guess is tungsten. Shoot your first photo at 1/160. Shoot the second photo at 1/1000 or higher if you can, to freeze the splash. Lastly, shoot a third photo at 1 or 2 seconds. See what kind of results you get. :)

ISO 800, SS 1/160 F4
ISO 800,  SS 1/160   F4...

ISO 800, SS 1/1000 F4
ISO 800,  SS 1/1000 F4...

ISO 800, SS 1/4000 F4
ISO 800,  SS 1/4000 F4...

ISO 800, SS 1/4, F7.1
ISO 800, SS 1/4,  F7.1...

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May 28, 2012 16:48:11   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
mknmemries54 wrote:
Thank you bawlmer, is this any better???? not sure. I feel like I'm dense and I need to just give up!!!! I don't see it, I didn't get the last assignment either.
quote=mknmemries54]I am not happy with my camera. I can't seem to get what is needed for the assignment. They all look the same to me. Can someone check it out & let me know what else I need to do????

You have an exposure problem with the last shot, but it does illustrate the point of the exercise. The water is blurred. You might want to try a couple more shots at, say, 1/10 second, 1/25 second. These also should show blur because the shutter speed can't capture the drops in place. At 1/1000 and 1/4000 second, you've frozen the water in place. The 1/160 is actually a little sharper than I'd have expected, but that's why I'm suggesting a couple of shots at lower speeds.

The camera has some good reviews, so you should probably get a basic book on photography and sit down with it and your camera manual and go through some exercises. What MWAC is doing here is very much in line with what you should be doing to learn your camera and photography basics. If you're not satisfied with your results, go back and try again, because understanding aperture, speed and exposure are fundamental if you're going to move past point-and-shoot.

Small aperture (small lens opening) means slower shutter speed to let in the necessary amount of light.

Wider open aperture means faster shutter speed to let in the same amount of light.

Wider apertures mean narrower depth of field, i.e., blurring of focus.

These are oversimplifications, but should point you in the right direction.

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May 28, 2012 18:52:08   #
GH2man Loc: Portland Oregon
 
Great set.
lmch921 wrote:
Tried the sink for this lesson but wasn't happy, so decided to try something more real....like the waterfall by our pond

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May 28, 2012 21:08:59   #
bawlmer Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
mknmemries54 wrote:
Thank you bawlmer, is this any better???? not sure. I feel like I'm dense and I need to just give up!!!! I don't see it, I didn't get the last assignment either.
quote=mknmemries54]I am not happy with my camera. I can't seem to get what is needed for the assignment. They all look the same to me. Can someone check it out & let me know what else I need to do????


bawlmer wrote:

First, I would increase the water flow to create some visible splash. Also, you might want to bump up the ISO to maybe 800 just to brighten the photos a bit. Make sure your white balance is set for the type of lighting, which I would guess is tungsten. Shoot your first photo at 1/160. Shoot the second photo at 1/1000 or higher if you can, to freeze the splash. Lastly, shoot a third photo at 1 or 2 seconds. See what kind of results you get. :)
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They are better. As you can see, when you use a high shutter speed, the water is frozen in place. When you went to the lower speed, the water became a blur, almost a misty appearance. But as RMM stated, you might want to try a few more shots, at the lower SS just to get a feel for what happens when you change the shutter speed. If you want to try the first lesson again, feel free to PM me and I'll work with you on it. It's really not difficult. It's just a matter of getting an understanding of what your camera will do with certain settings. :)

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