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Aug 14, 2016 14:00:52   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
sgbrown wrote:
I recently purchased a new Canon Rebel T6i and a new 150-600mm zoom lens. I am still having trouble getting the detail that I want. I know it must be me not using the correct setting. I hope someone can look at my photo and setting and give me some suggestions on what I might do to get better results. The picture was taken with the following settings: f/5.6, 1/125 sec., ISO-400, 150mm. Any advice would be appreciated! :)


I don't own one, but I believe the T6i is a crop sensor. With the 1.6 crop factor, and wanting to shoot handheld, I would probably go with a shutter speed of 1/000 sec. or faster.

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Aug 14, 2016 14:26:22   #
forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA
 
A great idea! For an unused tripod I have. Thanks.
R.G. wrote:
A tripod is a good idea, but if you hate the idea so much, how about a monopod, or as I do quite a lot, use a tripod with just the front leg extended and use it as a monopod. That way you'll always have the tripod with you for those times when you need it.

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Aug 14, 2016 14:28:58   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I think the shutter speed was a bit slow for handheld. The old rule of the fraction 1 over the focal length of the lens is at best minimal in my experience. Try jacking up the shutter speed and if needed the ISO.

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Aug 14, 2016 14:38:34   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
sgbrown wrote:
I recently purchased a new Canon Rebel T6i and a new 150-600mm zoom lens. I am still having trouble getting the detail that I want. I know it must be me not using the correct setting. I hope someone can look at my photo and setting and give me some suggestions on what I might do to get better results. The picture was taken with the following settings: f/5.6, 1/125 sec., ISO-400, 150mm. Any advice would be appreciated! :)


On this shot, here is where I would be:

I would be shooting in vertical (portrait) orientation of the camera and zooming in to perhaps 200mm ( thereby putting more pixels on the subject and a more interesting composition)

I would be on a monopod or bodypod using facial stabilization

I would be using a shutter speed of 1/400 MINIMUM.

I would prefer to stop the lens down from wide open (f5.6?) at least one stop

It would be nice to know exactly which 150-600 lens and body you are using ??

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Aug 14, 2016 14:41:45   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
On this shot, here is where I would be:

I would be shooting in vertical (portrait) orientation of the camera and zooming in to perhaps 200mm ( thereby putting more pixels on the subject and a more interesting composition)

I would be on a monopod or bodypod using facial stabilization

I would be using a shutter speed of 1/400 MINIMUM.

I would prefer to stop the lens down from wide open (f5.6?) at least one stop

It would be nice to know exactly which 150-600 lens and body you are using ??
On this shot, here is where I would be: br br I w... (show quote)


The ONLY time I am hand holding with a longer lens ( over 200mm) is for birds in flight ! .....

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Aug 14, 2016 17:32:02   #
KTJohnson Loc: Northern Michigan
 
No one has mentioned Post Processing. Did you use any? What kind? What did you do? What are you actually looking for?

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Aug 15, 2016 11:51:06   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
forjava wrote:
A great idea! For an unused tripod I have. Thanks.


As mentioned in other posts, they make good hiker staffs. Not being quite as nimble as I used to be, I've found it a great help when negotiating slippery slopes and rocky terrain. I'm wary of putting too much weight on it just in case the clips can't hold it from collapsing, but that hasn't happened so far. I found that if I left the tripod in the car, with the intention of coming to get it when it was needed, I just got lazy about it and ended up not using it. If it's already with you you're far more likely to make use of it.

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Aug 15, 2016 12:36:01   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
sgbrown wrote:
I recently purchased a new Canon Rebel T6i and a new 150-600mm zoom lens. I am still having trouble getting the detail that I want. I know it must be me not using the correct setting. I hope someone can look at my photo and setting and give me some suggestions on what I might do to get better results. The picture was taken with the following settings: f/5.6, 1/125 sec., ISO-400, 150mm. Any advice would be appreciated! :)


Shooting with the very long lenses, which the 150-600 is, can be a challenge, on or off the tripod. Shooting with a tripod generally works out better. Even then, you will need to steady the lens with your hand either under or over the lens. If you use it without a tripod learn to steady it with your arm position, body position, or use a fence, rock, etc. to help out. As others have stated here, you will need to use a faster shutter speed to get a sharp image. Depending on your lens, it also may work better in a higher light situation: shooting in the shadows with some lenses just does not work well. My Tamron 150-600 has taken some great shots, on and off the tripod (as long as the lighting was good), but I recently purchased a Nikkor 80-400 and I absolutely love this lens. Have shot multiple wonderful and sharp shots with it hand held. In the end, you may need to think about getting a lens that is easier when hand holding if that is your goal.

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Aug 15, 2016 18:09:17   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
When asking a question like this, click on "store original". Better detail in download and all camera data will be there. I most always suggest using ISO 800 or 1600. This allows a tighter aperture and faster speed. Also the rule for shutter speed is 1/mm lens. At 150 mm, you should be at 1/150 speed or faster.

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Aug 16, 2016 07:45:45   #
sgbrown Loc: Oklahoma
 
SonyA580 wrote:
It's hard to tell on such a low resolution picture, but to me, it looks OK. If you are talking about detail in the background grass, your aperture of f/5.6 simply won't give you enough depth of field to get everything behind the tree in focus. I would have probably zoomed in to 200-300mm and shot it as a vertical picture trying to eliminate the background.


I was talking about detail on the squirrel itself. However, it would have made a better picture had I blurred the background. Thank you for your input! :)

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Aug 16, 2016 07:49:54   #
sgbrown Loc: Oklahoma
 
R.G. wrote:
A tripod is a good idea, but if you hate the idea so much, how about a monopod, or as I do quite a lot, use a tripod with just the front leg extended and use it as a monopod. That way you'll always have the tripod with you for those times when you need it.


Most of my pictures are taken while I am just wandering around our 40 acres and I don't carry anything else with me. I was really hoping it was my setting so I didn't have to depend on a tripod or monopod to get the detail I wanted. I may have to sacrifice a little detail for convenience or visa-versa. Thank you for your input! :)

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Aug 16, 2016 07:53:56   #
sgbrown Loc: Oklahoma
 
Rongnongno wrote:
ALWAYS post an original in this forum section if you want help....


I thought I had posted the original. Forgive me if I did not... Thank you for the advice! :)

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Aug 16, 2016 08:00:18   #
sgbrown Loc: Oklahoma
 
RonnieP wrote:
The rule of thumb I learned many years ago, was set the shutter speed at 1 over the focal length of the lens. For a zoom lens, always 1 over the longest focal length. It also helps to fudge that shutter speed higher. With the new cameras, increasing the ISO to allow for this is an option. When I tried it, I needed to find the ISO where noise became an issue. I shoot a Nikon D7100 and sometimes use a Tamron 150-600. I usually set the ISO at 1600 or 3200, use shutter priority at 1/1600 sec on bright days and the sharpness has gotten to where it should be.

BTW, my lens is a bear to handhold - period. I generally use a monopod in the field. That also doubles as a walking stick on occasion.
The rule of thumb I learned many years ago, was se... (show quote)


I guess I am not used to my new camera yet and have been afraid of going to high with the ISO due to the noise I would get with my previous camera. I will try your suggestions! Thank you very much for your input! :)

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Aug 16, 2016 08:02:46   #
sgbrown Loc: Oklahoma
 
legion3 wrote:
shutter speed need to be 600 plus also try higher f stop


Thank you! I think I need to get used to the better capabilities of my new camera! I appreciate your input! :)

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Aug 16, 2016 08:04:41   #
sgbrown Loc: Oklahoma
 
R.G. wrote:
Very useful for negotiating steep slippery banks, rocky terrain etc.


Thank you, Ronnie! That could prove to be very helpful at times! My knees thank you! :)

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