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Jul 13, 2016 11:41:10   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
How to read the Nikon lens barrel: http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Learn-And-Explore/Article/gg1e57vo/how-to-read-your-nikkor-lens-barrel.html

Lens designations: https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/12089/~/nikon-af-lens-designations

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Jul 13, 2016 11:41:56   #
tomcat
 
If she is chasing 11 children, then I would not consider a long lens at all. I would go with the 18-35mm wide angle because it has an extensive depth of field to cover the movements of those children. a 200-300mm lens will have such shallow depth of field as to be unusable for any children that are moving. By the way, when is she going to have time to take many pictures anyway---lol?

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Jul 13, 2016 12:50:33   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Look for FX compatibility, ED (Extended Definition), Nanocrystal Coated for flare resistance, and a gold ring. And just ask your dealer!

Also look for a price tag that says, "I'm expensive as hell," compared to the cheap version of the same focal length or range. If it costs like an L lens, it's most probably similar. It's going to be weather-sealed, have a wicked-fast focus motor, exotic glass...

Most pro lenses also have wider apertures, and CONSTANT f/2.8 apertures if they are wide to medium tele range zooms (i.e.; 14-24, 24-70, 70-200).
Look for FX compatibility, ED (Extended Definition... (show quote)


I think that 'ED' means 'Extra-low Dispersion' of the lens elements. What do you mean by 'Extended Definition'?

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Jul 13, 2016 13:18:36   #
stillducky
 
Nikon AF-S FX NIKKOR 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED Vibration Reduction --- is my go to lens. If I can only carry 1 or 2 lenses it will be one of them. It is a very good all purpose lens in my opinion.

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Jul 13, 2016 13:25:20   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
moi aussi

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Jul 13, 2016 13:26:50   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
stillducky wrote:
Nikon AF-S FX NIKKOR 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED Vibration Reduction --- is my go to lens. If I can only carry 1 or 2 lenses it will be one of them. It is a very good all purpose lens in my opinion.


Critics say that a lens with that much zoom can't be that good. I've been amazed, however, in just how much I am able to crop and get good results from photos taken with it. My son does not like to have his picture taken, but he did submit to a family photo a few years ago. I was able to crop him out out of the photo, and even the scar on his forehead was sharp (he ran into the edge of a door when he was a toddler).

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Jul 13, 2016 13:30:17   #
forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA
 
I've seen two unfavorable mentions of variable aperture in these interesting comments. I think the posting parties mean zoom lenses. That is, parfocal is preferable to varifocal, for image outcomes.

Not sure "pro" is going to get all the wonderful zooms. Consider the two Series E zooms, for example.
amfoto1 wrote:
"FX" versus "DX" is not useful to distinguish "high end" from "low end", "entry level" or "budget/kit lens". For example, a Nikkor 10-24mm is sort of mid-grade build, while their 12-24mm is more pro-quality build... and both of those are DX lenses. But, that also doesn't mean squat when it comes to price versus performance. For example, at roughly half the price of those Nikkors, either Tokina "ATX Pro" 11-20mm f2.8 or 12-28mm f4 offer as good or better image quality, as good or better build quality and roughly equal general performance. Incidentally, Tokina uses the same "DX" and "FX" terminology as Nikon, and both the Tokina lenses mentioned are DX models.

It's similar with Canon... there are both high-end and low-end EF-S lenses... but there are no L-series EF-S and never will be. That's merely because one of Canon's criteria defining "L-series" is that they must be compatible with and usable on all EOS cameras past, present and future. That's not the case with EF-S lenses, which can only be used on APS-C format Canon DSLRs. Therefore, no EF-S will ever be "graced" with a red stripe or the L label.

Yet, there are some EF-S lenses that rival L-series for image quality and in most performance characteristics.... such as the EF-S 10-22mm, EF-S 17-55/2.8 and EF-S 15-85mm.

Things that might distinguish "high end" Nikkors:

- Larger apertures
- Non-variable aperture
- IF or "Internal Focusing" design
- APO, ED, UD or FL glass
- AF-S... i.e., a focus motor built into the lens
- SWM or "Silent Wave Motor" focus drive
- VR or "Vibration Reduction" image stabilization
- Gold ring
- Nano coatings

You'll generally find several of these factors on the higher end lenses.

AF-S lenses are typically newer models. There are high-end AF-D lenses, too (without built in focus motors), but those tend to be older models. Nikon has gradually been converting their lens line-up to AF-S.

Not all AF-S lenses are high end... there are also lots of entry-level models. So, by itself, AF-S only indicates it's probably a relatively recent model (however, the earliest AF-S were introduced almost 20 years ago).

And, of course, price is one more thing that might give you a clue!
"FX" versus "DX" is i not /i ... (show quote)

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Jul 13, 2016 13:35:25   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
I see so much yak about what camera to buy, what lens to buy, does it do this, that, etc. I used to own a camera store in the 80's. There is ( and always have been ) the thought that owing a Nikon, Canon, etc. will make you a better photographer. People ask what to buy as if that will make them a great photographer. Buy any camera, they are all good, you will get initially great results; you the person can make them better.

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Jul 13, 2016 17:07:59   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
Designating top quality lenses appears to be a black art for Nikon and I suppose others. I think Sony has an "L" quality lens line they designate "FE".. I can't discern a rationale for Nikon not having a designator for the top line. I am sure that our community includes many people who buy the "top pro" lens because of the designator even if they are incapable of using it to get "top pro" results. JK?

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Jul 13, 2016 17:52:41   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
cambriaman wrote:
Designating top quality lenses appears to be a black art for Nikon and I suppose others. I think Sony has an "L" quality lens line they designate "FE".. I can't discern a rationale for Nikon not having a designator for the top line. I am sure that our community includes many people who buy the "top pro" lens because of the designator even if they are incapable of using it to get "top pro" results. JK?


Oh, isn't your glass half empty? Once one gets a camera like one in the D8XX series, or the D750, etc., it's incumbent upon that person to get lenses that are a match to the quality of the camera, whatever the talent of the photographer may be. The advantage of this is that good equipment will encourage the amateur photographer to improve his/her photography. It's like the difference in old persimmon woods and the large drivers of today. How much more fun (and easier) it is to hit a golf ball off the tee with these new drivers. And how much easier it is to play with irons that have a huge sweet spot rather than one the size of a dime. Yeah....better equipment makes photography more fun, makes it easier, and encourages the worst of us to make better photos than we ever could have with lesser equipment.

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Jul 13, 2016 19:34:11   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SteveR wrote:
Critics say that a lens with that much zoom can't be that good.


Years back a quality zoom (actually quality and zoom were mutually exclusive) was not to exceed 2 1/2 zoom range. My Nikkor 28 to 70 f/2.8 was considered pushing the limit. I think through a lot of hard work the engineers have blown those limits out of the water. I'm glad they did.

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Jul 13, 2016 23:35:20   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Bill_de wrote:
Years back a quality zoom (actually quality and zoom were mutually exclusive) was not to exceed 2 1/2 zoom range. My Nikkor 28 to 70 f/2.8 was considered pushing the limit. I think through a lot of hard work the engineers have blown those limits out of the water. I'm glad they did.

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As we will likely all agree… still, generally speaking, zooms are not going to be as sharp as primes. But few of us can afford to purchase, nor do we want to cart around, a four to six prime lenses, when we can have one or two zooms.

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Jul 13, 2016 23:40:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
TommiRulz wrote:
I started with Canon years ago, so all I know is Canon names and jargon. But a friend wants a new lens for her nikon and I have no idea what the Nikon version of an "L" lens is. Could one of you Nikon dudes please give me a quick schooling in Nikon Lenses. aka: whats the name of the kit types vs. the L types


Apologize I have not read all the replies but I am a Nikon guy and IMHO it is simply not possible to decipher a pattern in Nikon model numbers. The best advice I can give is to bookmark the following web page: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm#pro

NOTE: The above might open in the middle of the page sonscroll up or down to get to what the letters and numbers mean.

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Jul 14, 2016 11:07:11   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
JD750 wrote:
Apologize I have not read all the replies but I am a Nikon guy and IMHO it is simply not possible to decipher a pattern in Nikon model numbers. The best advice I can give is to bookmark the following web page: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm#pro

NOTE: The above might open in the middle of the page sonscroll up or down to get to what the letters and numbers mean.


That's a good chart for lens compatibility, but does not speak to which lenses are the best. It's been a few years, but in 2012, Thom Hogan put out a list of lenses he felt worthy of the D800. This is certainly a great place to start when looking for quality lenses. There may have been some upgrades since then, but this is a good start.

http://www.dslrbodies.com/accessories/camera-accessories/nikon-d800-accessories/d800-lens-sets.html

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Jul 14, 2016 11:39:13   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
kb6kgx wrote:
As we will likely all agree… still, generally speaking, zooms are not going to be as sharp as primes.


Yeah, I agree. I figure that at most a zoom may have a sweet spot where it may match one equivalent prime. Never tried to prove it.

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