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Jul 10, 2016 22:39:18   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Twardlow wrote:
Ancient history???

Do you read the news?

Are not GIs dying today?

Is the war still costing money today?

You grow too comfortable, Jake.

How long would the killing have to go on before you say 'enough?'


So what are you looking for Tom? Are you still trying to put Bush in jail?

Just who says the war is illegal Tom? The UN? Who gives a shit about what the UN has to say anyway, it is a joke and certainly Russia, China, nor just about any African country or any country in the Middle East gives a shit about what the UN has to say, so why do you even think that they are important?

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Jul 10, 2016 23:41:00   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So what are you looking for Tom? Are you still trying to put Bush in jail?

Just who says the war is illegal Tom? The UN? Who gives a shit about what the UN has to say anyway, it is a joke and certainly Russia, China, nor just about any African country or any country in the Middle East gives a shit about what the UN has to say, so why do you even think that they are important?


Do you want a world of anarchy, where anybody can conquer and invade anybody else they want to whenever they feel like it? Just scrap all international law and all international agreements that the US is a part of? Why do you think there were war crimes tribunals at the conclusion of WWII and subsequently? Or perhaps you think that the US should be considered exceptional and be held to a different standard? Only other countries have to abide by international law, and the US can do whatever the hell it wants?

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Jul 11, 2016 00:54:54   #
cwp3420
 
Keenan wrote:
Do you want a world of anarchy, where anybody can conquer and invade anybody else they want to whenever they feel like it? Just scrap all international law and all international agreements that the US is a part of? Why do you think there were war crimes tribunals at the conclusion of WWII and subsequently? Or perhaps you think that the US should be considered exceptional and be held to a different standard? Only other countries have to abide by international law, and the US can do whatever the hell it wants?
Do you want a world of anarchy, where anybody can ... (show quote)


I image, you being a California faggot, would like the UN to be in charge, wouldn't you. Then, they could take care of all your pitiful needs. They would probably even treat your horse syphilis for free. They'd probably have to put Trigger down though.

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Jul 11, 2016 01:00:05   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
cwp3420 wrote:
I image, you being a California faggot, would like the UN to be in charge, wouldn't you. Then, they could take care of all your pitiful needs. They would probably even treat your horse syphilis for free. They'd probably have to put Trigger down though.


Do you ever change your tune? Go away, child. The adults are talking now. Run along and find other children closer to your age to play with. This is the adults table.

Do your parents know you are up this late past your bed time trolling the internet on their computer with your potty mouth?

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Jul 11, 2016 02:01:42   #
cwp3420
 
Keenan wrote:
Do you ever change your tune? Go away, child. The adults are talking now. Run along and find other children closer to your age to play with. This is the adults table.

Do your parents know you are up this late past your bed time trolling the internet on their computer with your potty mouth?


Pathetic reply. When he has nothing to say, he throws a little hissy fit, as befitting a coward.

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Jul 11, 2016 03:54:26   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
cwp3420 wrote:
I image, you being a California faggot, would like the UN to be in charge, wouldn't you. Then, they could take care of all your pitiful needs. They would probably even treat your horse syphilis for free. They'd probably have to put Trigger down though.


cwp3420 wrote:
Pathetic reply. When he has nothing to say, he throws a little hissy fit, as befitting a coward.

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Jul 11, 2016 05:42:39   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Keenan wrote:
Do you want a world of anarchy, where anybody can conquer and invade anybody else they want to whenever they feel like it? Just scrap all international law and all international agreements that the US is a part of? Why do you think there were war crimes tribunals at the conclusion of WWII and subsequently? Or perhaps you think that the US should be considered exceptional and be held to a different standard? Only other countries have to abide by international law, and the US can do whatever the hell it wants?
Do you want a world of anarchy, where anybody can ... (show quote)


I am saying that the UN is bullshit, when has it ever stopped anything, it is just one more thing that our government wastes money on as yes, we pay by far the largest percentage of support for that organization that appoints middle eastern Muslim countries to head up human rights counsels, how does that work, sharia countries heading up human rights? Or better yet, what has it done to stop aggression and expansionist countries around the world? How about Crimea or the South China Sea?

Its primary reason for existence is to party hardy in NYC with diplomatic immunity, and to criticize the US... Doesn't do anything else well at all, oh, except that global warming thing which they entirely screwed that pooch as well.

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Jul 11, 2016 09:28:58   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Twardlow wrote:
Ancient history???

Do you read the news?

Are not GIs dying today?

Is the war still costing money today?

You grow too comfortable, Jake.

How long would the killing have to go on before you say 'enough?'

It's the NITWH fault.

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Jul 11, 2016 09:53:27   #
cwp3420
 
Checkmate wrote:
It's the NITWH fault.


LOL!! Exactly. I couldn't have said it better.

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Jul 11, 2016 10:06:12   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Twardlow wrote:
Who started it , Jake?

Who put the US in an untenable position, increased the national debt exponentially, and proved our incompetence to the world?

This will continue until you and I decide it should stop.


Tom;

obama campaigned and promised to extricate us from that quagmire, and he still has troops there, reduced the number of troop reductions, and pulled out of Iraq substantially causing the increase and rise of ISIS.

obama and his never ending increase in needless and unnecessary social programs are also a substantial part of the increase in the debt. He, and congress are the only reason for the debt! We now have around 90 million people not in the workforce. So much for obama's fantasy of shovel ready jobs for Americans. Never happened. Zip, nada and nope.

I realize Tom you don't want to acknowledge his ineptness, however it's still quite obvious.

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Jul 11, 2016 10:41:35   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Pathetic reply. When he has nothing to say, he throws a little hissy fit, as befitting a coward.


"I image, you being a California faggot, would like the UN to be in charge, wouldn't you. Then, they could take care of all your pitiful needs. They would probably even treat your horse syphilis for free. They'd probably have to put Trigger down though."

Do you call that having something to say?

Sounds more like one jackass braying at another jackass ...

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Jul 11, 2016 11:46:13   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Tom;

obama campaigned and promised to extricate us from that quagmire, and he still has troops there, reduced the number of troop reductions, and pulled out of Iraq substantially causing the increase and rise of ISIS.

obama and his never ending increase in needless and unnecessary social programs are also a substantial part of the increase in the debt. He, and congress are the only reason for the debt! We now have around 90 million people not in the workforce. So much for obama's fantasy of shovel ready jobs for Americans. Never happened. Zip, nada and nope.

I realize Tom you don't want to acknowledge his ineptness, however it's still quite obvious.
Tom; br br obama campaigned and promised to extri... (show quote)



Jake, you old Marine, you know better than I that the retreat is the most difficult maneuver practiced by the military.

And it's more difficult when your own people are sniping at you, isn't it? Even the Marines didn't have to face that.

Then you ignore the cost of the TWO wars in the National Debt. That was a republican move, so it's OK, just blame it on Obama?

How much increase in the Debt has these social programs added? Please answer.

Al Quaeda and ISIS are the result of generations of USA meddling in Middle Eastern Politics and affronting the Muslim Nations, and finally Attacking Them. This has been going on since 1945, and things are coming home to roost.

I like Obama, and I think he a fine President. Read a post on this site just yesterday where historians listed him at 17 from the top. I can live with that, though I think his standing will improve with a longer perspective.

You detest Obama and Hillary; you're allowed.

I detest Bush and Trump. I can defend my views easier and more completely than you can yours.

You know Trump is an idiot, but wil vote for him because he is the most conservative. That doesn't make sense.

Eventually you have to answer, which of these two will best serve the US and its citizens for four years?

That's some responsibility.

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Jul 11, 2016 12:09:27   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Looking at the Middle East through a straw is a useless endeavor. A broader view is needed to attempt to arrive at a position that will support a more peaceful solution. Finger pointing is a wasted effort and does nothing positive. So stop looking at the past to place blame, but look forward to resolve.

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Jul 11, 2016 12:16:13   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Twardlow wrote:
...Eventually you have to answer, which of these two will best serve the US and its citizens for four years?

That's some responsibility.
..more like which of these two will least harm the US and its citizens for four years?

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Jul 11, 2016 13:26:52   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
green wrote:
..more like which of these two will least harm the US and its citizens for four years?


I guess this situation may be like having cancer. Your doctor says that you have a 25% chance of survival if you have the operation and endure radiation and chemotherapy. But there is a trial that has produced results that have a 75% survival rate, but you can't get treatment here in the United States you have to go to Germany and pay for it yourself. If Hillary is elected she is the 25% potential. But if Trump gets elected he is the 75% chance. What are you going to do?

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