rpavich Loc: West Virginia

I'm not stopping him, merely asking a question.

How about you take your own advice and let me ask a question?

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

I think you might be addressing my question.

So I'll rephrase: What do you want to do more that you expect full frame to do that your 7D cannot do?

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

The big difference comes on the wide angle side. You can do a lot more wide angle than with the crop sensor. But, if you are more the wildlife shooter, then you should go with the crop sensor, your effective mega pixels will be more effective than with FF.

steveg48

First of all 50mp is the number of pixels, not the pixel density. They are two different things. Cameras with less mp can have higher pixel densities.
For example I had a 24 mp Nikon D7100 (DX sensor) which I sold and the D810 (36mp). The 7100 had a higher pixel density.

Since you are 65, you might consider looking for a light alternative. I have a Nikon D810 and a Sony A7R ii. I use the Sony for street photography
and appreciate the much lighter weight. On photo trips I sometimes put a longer lens on the D810 and a wide angle on the Sony so I don't have to change lenses.
There are adapters for the Sony that allow you to use your Canon lenses. Of course you are losing the size advantage if you use Canon lenses.

Photoshop CC does an excellent job of upresing images. Also there are Photoshop plugins (Alien Skin Blowup, On One Perfect Resize) that do the same and get good reviews.

Consider something other than Canikon. Generally speaking, Sony makes the best sensors. That is why the Nikon D810 sensor is made by Sony.

BebuLamar

What if you listen to us and then you have buyer remorse? Are we responsible? Besides check the thread " Does camera make the photographer" most folks don't think better camera will help.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Canon will serve you well ......but so will Sony A7's and with the Sigma adapter to enable using all the new Sigma lenses as well as Zeiss/Sonys. Nikon has great stuff too !

If you are being concerned about a lack of DOF using crop frame - you had better rethink going to FF where DOF will be LESS and more exacting !

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

It depends on how much you crop. The III is 21 MP, you can crop roughly 60% and still have the quality of the un-cropped III. While that is all fine and good, unless you tend to significantly crop most photos 50 MP is a real space cruncher, especially if shooting raw. The saving grace for the IV if i read right, you can select the size of the raw and not have to always be at 50 MP. I would be much more interested in the quality of the sensor's tonal range, etc long before total MPs. I can see birders ecstatic about MP as getting close even with big MM lens' ain't always easy.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Do you think a full frame camera would have done a better job on the photo you posted? Are you heavily in to wildlife?

What more do you think full frame can do for you?

I'm not trying to talk you out of going FF, but I know a great photographer who shoots nothing but crop Canon cameras because she shoots wildlife and it works to her advantage.

unlucky2 Loc: Hemet Ca.

steveg48 You are the first to speak to my understanding, or lack of, of sensors. Comparing FF sensors, a 50 mp sensor has a greater pixel density than does a 36 mp sensor. (yes or no??) I originally chose a cropped sensor because it had the greatest pixel density, thus potentially the highest resolution. I am looking at other than Cannon and weight is a concern. Presently I use my mountain bike as a wheelbarrow to transport my equipment to remote locations. (this works well, but a flat tire can ruin a good day) What makes one sensor better than an other? color reproduction, sharpness, speed ??? What do I look for??

PS well past 65 much closer to 70

ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas

Welcome to the Hog Unlucky.

Bob Boner

I recommend either the 5DS R or the 5DIII(or wait for the IV). I have the 5DS R and the 5DIII. I use the 5DS R for subject matter that I want to print large. Both are very nice cameras. I am 75, and these will probably be the last bodies I buy. Since you say that your purchase will probably be the last body you buy, I recommend the 5DS R.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

One of the big differences you'll notice between your 7D and any of the FF suggestions is noise at higher ISOs. That's the reason I went from my 7D to the 5D3, and the difference is very noticable - probably worth 2 extra stops of ISO which you can trade for more DOF or higher shutter speed. My 7D began to show notIcable noise beyond ISO 1600, while I routinely use the 5D3 at 6400 or 12,800. Having said that, I'll probably add a 7D2 when I have some more to spend because of the longer "reach" (yes, I know it's really FOV before someone comments) and the higher FPS.

Since you have Canon lenses, and assuming they're EF and usable on a FF, plus your familiarity with the control layout, it would probably make sense to go with another Canon body - your question is which one. Assuming you want to stay with a rugged, pro or semi-pro level body like your 7D (or you might consider a 6D), and cost is not an object (or you might consider a 5D3), your choices would include:

> 1Dx MK II - the ultimate pro sports body - highest fps, built like a tank, and highest $. 20 MP, 14 fps and ~6K$
> The new, long rumored 5D mk IV - a myriad of incremental improvements over the MK III. Depending on which rumor you believe, the speed would be improved to either 7 or 10 fps, the resolution up slightly to 24MP and ~3.5K$ (?)
> 5DSr - the Resolution King at 50+MP, but slower at 5 fps, and ~3.9K$

There are lots of other things to consider including Max ISO, Autofocus, etc., and I'm sure you'll get lots of comments and opinions on those, and of course you can download and compare specs. Just my 2 cents...

chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon

If as you said money is not an issue, I agree with Carl, the Sony A7Rm2 is the only real option you have. Well, Hasselblod just came out with a handhedl medium format camera, but it is only 50 mp. Again if money is not issue you should at least look the Phase One with the 100mp back. After looking at these prices the Sony A7Rm2 will seem like a steal.

unlucky2 Loc: Hemet Ca.

I think FF would have helped here

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boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

I use a 7d also, so here is my take- If you have a number of L lenses then stick with a Canon FF and use the 7d as a back up body. But if not, then the Dark Side opens up. the Canon 5Dsr is a worthy choice as is the Nikon d800e But as above waiting for the 5d4 may be a good choice. But you said ignore money so the Canon 1dX would be the best choice. I think that I have probably made absolutely no sense what so ever ans probably confused you even more. But why FF in the first place. If you wnt to print bigger than 16X24 OK but if not, save some money and go with a 7d2 or a Nikon d500.