New here looking for a FF body
Jul 4, 2016 19:31:34 #
Just found this place and I am looking for advice on choosing a FF body. Pretend price is not a problem and help me with ease of use, lens availability, sensor quality, build quality and anything you think I might be overlooking. Planning this purchase for my September birthday, SO:
By way of introduction I ask a simple question, â what is the best FF bodyâ and to overly complicate the answer I submit my background synopsis. I am an amateur, amateur, a hobbyist. I am much more a âreactionaryâ photographer than a composing artist. That is to say I am usually so busy trying to capture the moment that composition becomes lost in confusion. In the calm moments of life I play in the image triangle of SS, aperture and ISO. When opportunity comes a calling I often struggle with which knob or wheel does what. I usually set my 7D up in aperture priority, burst mode, 2 stops either side and leave my Ti in full automatic. I have a flicker page, but I think it is against the rules to post a link to it. With 65 a distant memory, I know this will be the last body I will likely buy.
I am not very good at âPPâ , probably because I have not spent the time required learning how. I struggle with DOF in my macroâs, and play with it in both landscape and wildlife (I am not a portrait type of guy) . My knowledge of âFFâ body is very limited, given that; go for the 5Dsr (max mp) or 5D mark IV (pull quality stills from the hd stream) ???
By way of introduction I ask a simple question, â what is the best FF bodyâ and to overly complicate the answer I submit my background synopsis. I am an amateur, amateur, a hobbyist. I am much more a âreactionaryâ photographer than a composing artist. That is to say I am usually so busy trying to capture the moment that composition becomes lost in confusion. In the calm moments of life I play in the image triangle of SS, aperture and ISO. When opportunity comes a calling I often struggle with which knob or wheel does what. I usually set my 7D up in aperture priority, burst mode, 2 stops either side and leave my Ti in full automatic. I have a flicker page, but I think it is against the rules to post a link to it. With 65 a distant memory, I know this will be the last body I will likely buy.
I am not very good at âPPâ , probably because I have not spent the time required learning how. I struggle with DOF in my macroâs, and play with it in both landscape and wildlife (I am not a portrait type of guy) . My knowledge of âFFâ body is very limited, given that; go for the 5Dsr (max mp) or 5D mark IV (pull quality stills from the hd stream) ???
Jul 4, 2016 19:35:57 #
Jul 4, 2016 20:09:44 #
[quote=unlucky2]Just found this place and I am looking for advice on choosing a FF body. Pretend price is not a problem and help me with ease of use, lens availability, sensor quality, build quality and anything you think I might be overlooking. Planning this purchase for my September birthday, SO:
As stated before this post, you have Canon, I guess also a good selection of lenses.
For build quality the best on the market for DSLR at this time is the Canon EOS1DX MarkII. The current 5D Mark III is long in the tooth and due to be updated later this year I am guessing. With sensor technology it will likely be the best in the industry when introduced as it will be 3rd generation dual pixel technology and likely the flagship DSLR as far as video capability. (Just some guesses). Resolution the 5DS and 5DSR are the best available by a substantial margin in the DSLR field.
Will thses be surpassed?
Most likely with a Nikon iteration in their next generation series of DSLRs there will be a leapfrog but then Canon comes back and on and on.
You will be hard pressed though to get a better set of advanced technology lenses though as canon invented the modern AF lens and others are still struggling to catch up in that area. Also all your EF lenses ever made will fit and function perfectly with your new camera choice with absolutely no loss of original function.Yes the subset of EFs lenses will not mount on your FF DSLR so keep your 7D.
Good luck.
As stated before this post, you have Canon, I guess also a good selection of lenses.
For build quality the best on the market for DSLR at this time is the Canon EOS1DX MarkII. The current 5D Mark III is long in the tooth and due to be updated later this year I am guessing. With sensor technology it will likely be the best in the industry when introduced as it will be 3rd generation dual pixel technology and likely the flagship DSLR as far as video capability. (Just some guesses). Resolution the 5DS and 5DSR are the best available by a substantial margin in the DSLR field.
Will thses be surpassed?
Most likely with a Nikon iteration in their next generation series of DSLRs there will be a leapfrog but then Canon comes back and on and on.
You will be hard pressed though to get a better set of advanced technology lenses though as canon invented the modern AF lens and others are still struggling to catch up in that area. Also all your EF lenses ever made will fit and function perfectly with your new camera choice with absolutely no loss of original function.Yes the subset of EFs lenses will not mount on your FF DSLR so keep your 7D.
Good luck.
Jul 4, 2016 21:35:08 #
Thank you for the reply's. In a nutshell the advice is to wait and see what the 5D Mark 4 brings to the table, I can do that. It would seem foolish not to, but I find the lure of resolution (50 mp) quite compelling and here is where my confusion comes in. The 50 mp is the pixel density for the sensor (the full frame), if I crop the picture before printing the pixel density could be the same as I have now ???(that really is a question, I think I understand but I could be wrong) When averaging up (think poster print) the image pixelates out. When I get a picture I love and want to print it large there is no substitute for resolution, or am I wrong??
Jul 5, 2016 00:55:48 #
2 welcome! So you are a Canon shooter. Long ago I shot film Canon Ftb's. Then I quit. I was self taught with critiques of some great pro's in my circle. I had some problems and 2009 my friend gifted me an Xti and rebels with a 60D. I had some great glass EFs 10-22 and 15-85 and some long stuff. I live in a scenic rich environment.
A couple of years ago I decided that I would go FF. I needed to be a poor boy kit. 6D, 24-105 L, and Tokina 16-28, just slid in the budget. I added a battery grip and L bracket and controllers.
If I were doing a no constrain kit 5DsR, 11-24 L, 24-70 f/4 L, I am 72 with health issues and my be going the light weight direction. I do have a little point and shoot. I have spent two week end shoot around the perimeter of YP/GT. I love the look of FF, but I do shoot with my 60D. Glass is king.
Keep an eye on Canon Rumors. Make sure that you get news letters from Canon and the ABC's.
I love to make large prints. I love to show!
Happy 4th!
J. R.
A couple of years ago I decided that I would go FF. I needed to be a poor boy kit. 6D, 24-105 L, and Tokina 16-28, just slid in the budget. I added a battery grip and L bracket and controllers.
If I were doing a no constrain kit 5DsR, 11-24 L, 24-70 f/4 L, I am 72 with health issues and my be going the light weight direction. I do have a little point and shoot. I have spent two week end shoot around the perimeter of YP/GT. I love the look of FF, but I do shoot with my 60D. Glass is king.
Keep an eye on Canon Rumors. Make sure that you get news letters from Canon and the ABC's.
I love to make large prints. I love to show!
Happy 4th!
J. R.
Jul 5, 2016 04:40:45 #
Regardless of camera manufacturer, I would suggest that you list your needs in a FF body and then look for a second or third generation refurb that fills your basic needs; in other words, save money for the high end glass that will give you better images.
Jul 5, 2016 05:18:10 #
Jul 5, 2016 06:37:43 #
unlucky2 wrote:
I have a flicker page, but I think it is against the rules to post a link to it.
Not against the rules at all; many (myself included) have done so. I've found some really great photos by following the link to their flickr photostream.
Jul 5, 2016 06:54:29 #
unlucky2 wrote:
.... I usually set my 7D up in aperture priority, burst mode, 2 stops either side and leave my Ti in full automatic.
So If I read this correctly, you have a 7D already and a Ti body?
First question that pops to mind: what isn't the 7D doing that you continue to need it to do but it fails?
Jul 5, 2016 07:35:37 #
Jul 5, 2016 07:54:07 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
unlucky2 wrote:
Just found this place and I am looking for advice ... (show quote)
Sell everything and buy a Nikon D 750 with the 24-120 mm f4 Kit, save a bundle and get the best FF out their for the buck.
Jul 5, 2016 08:19:07 #
billnikon wrote:
Sell everything and buy a Nikon D 750 with the 24-120 mm f4 Kit, save a bundle and get the best FF out their for the buck.
Boy, there's a mistake!
Jul 5, 2016 08:45:59 #
rpavich wrote:
So If I read this correctly, you have a 7D already and a Ti body?
First question that pops to mind: what isn't the 7D doing that you continue to need it to do but it fails?
First question that pops to mind: what isn't the 7D doing that you continue to need it to do but it fails?
Let the OP buy a new camera if he wants to.
Jul 5, 2016 08:59:27 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Carl D wrote:
Boy, there's a mistake!
Your right, he should buy the D5 instead of the D750. And the mistake would be holding on to anything that starts with a C.
Jul 5, 2016 09:16:54 #
to me it is not a question of what my 7D isn't doing, but more of a question of what more can I do in full frame.
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