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May 21, 2012 15:48:46   #
betsout06 Loc: Pound Ridge, NY
 
Perry wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
Let me ask you a question - are the images you are posting images you think would sell by being online? If they are, you are going to wait a long time for a check. The little boat is not really interesting at all, the turkey is not composed well and is waaay too busy. Is it a shot of a log with a turkey behind it or a shot of a turkey with some stuff around it? If you want a photo of a turkey, the bird needs to be dominant in the image. You need to be a LOT closer and lower - looks like you were standing up when you took it.

Go to iStockPhoto.com, type in Wild Turkey and see how it is done - and what you have to compete with.

The white bird (Egret?) is a nice shot-good composition and it looks like there is detail in the white. But the angle is not good as it is going away from you and the head is dark with no light in the eye. It is, however, by far the best image.

I am not trying to be harsh, but realistic. And you did ask.
Let me ask you a question - are the images you ar... (show quote)


I understand Captain, I don't expect anyone to blow sunshine in my ears, I am just starting to venture out on this for the first time, so I know I have a lot to learn. And I figured that coming here with some of these pics was a good idea to seek advise on making a photo vs a snapshot.

As for the tom turkey, I had to shoot this one from my pickup at dusk, and he was a good distance away. As you might know about turkeys yourself, they are extremely skittish, and would have been gone like a fart in a hurricane if I even thought of getting any closer. Perhaps I could have cropped the pic, but I thought the log complimented the tom as it would be part of his environment, but I can see where it might be a distraction. I guess I will need to save up for a longer lens or one of those telephoto lenses that multiply the zoom. My lens is a 55-300mm Nikkor DX VR.
quote=CaptainC Let me ask you a question - are t... (show quote)

I have the same lens....and the same complaint about "soft" focus. The lens is sharpest between 80mm and about 135mm with the f between 8 and 14. I wasn't pleased to read the reviews on the lens....but for price and low weight there is always a compromise. Read the review on slrgear.com Nikon lens. As I've read before....it's all about the glass....and great glass is pricey and heavy.
Keeping the limitations of the lens in mind, I was able to get some amazing photos...fairly sharp...out in Utah last week.
Keep shooting

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May 21, 2012 15:56:06   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
artBob wrote:
The advice you've gotten seems good to me, as well as the compliment that you are mostly picking interesting subjects. I like to play, so I've taken the advice about getting in tight with your subject, leaving room to motion, and telling a "story"--and applied it to two of your pics.


I do not see these as an improvement. The boat is still not interesting and the turkey is now cramped. The turkey was shot wrong in the first place - nothing will help that image.

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May 21, 2012 17:59:16   #
Keenone Loc: Gisborne, New Zealand
 
I prefer the unedited version but can't see what they're talking about in relation to lack of focus.

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May 21, 2012 18:07:15   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
What about the rule of thirds? I personally think some pics look better with the subject centered and some when it's not. If you're looking at a pic to judge, with you ALWAYS discount a centered shot? I shot the Blue Angels a couple years ago at the local AFB and have a couple different crops of some of the same pics (one per a suggestion on UHH)and, depending on the plane(s) and/or maneuver I go either way. Just my opinion.

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May 21, 2012 18:22:11   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
The rule of thirds will help make a composition look "nice." If a person wants to make an expressive or interesting photo they'd better have a bigger understanding of composition than this, just one of a "bag of tricks." For example, a quiet or peaceful take on the subject might look great if centered.

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May 21, 2012 18:39:11   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
IMO I think what the photographer wants is to draw the viewer's eye to the subject he/she wants the viewer to see.

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May 21, 2012 18:39:49   #
ALYN Loc: Lebanon, Indiana
 
Pic 2 is better--photographically--than the original. Both are too static, in my opinion. If you could have got the goose doing something; stretching his wings or perhaps a more colorful background. It needs a bit more "snap." And that is my opinion.
ALYN

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May 21, 2012 18:45:04   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
I think this camera club I just joined is going to be great! 3 out of the next 4 meetings there is an educational program with competitions (misc. subject print and digital) and one of the sessions is a portrait shoot, with lighting and backgrounds provided. I've never done anything like that before. Whether I embarrass myself or do a good job, I can hardly wait to experience that part of photography. I've finally decided that tomorrow I'm going to enter a moon pic and my egret pic. Even if I get last place, I intend to learn something!!

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May 21, 2012 18:50:18   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
planepics wrote:
I think this camera club I just joined is going to be great! 3 out of the next 4 meetings there is an educational program with competitions (misc. subject print and digital) and one of the sessions is a portrait shoot, with lighting and backgrounds provided. I've never done anything like that before. Whether I embarrass myself or do a good job, I can hardly wait to experience that part of photography. I've finally decided that tomorrow I'm going to enter a moon pic and my egret pic. Even if I get last place, I intend to learn something!!
I think this camera club I just joined is going to... (show quote)


Now THAT is the way to approach it! You cannot help but learn when you start doing competitions/critiques.

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May 21, 2012 19:00:02   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
CaptainC wrote:
planepics wrote:
I think this camera club I just joined is going to be great! 3 out of the next 4 meetings there is an educational program with competitions (misc. subject print and digital) and one of the sessions is a portrait shoot, with lighting and backgrounds provided. I've never done anything like that before. Whether I embarrass myself or do a good job, I can hardly wait to experience that part of photography. I've finally decided that tomorrow I'm going to enter a moon pic and my egret pic. Even if I get last place, I intend to learn something!!
I think this camera club I just joined is going to... (show quote)


Now THAT is the way to approach it! You cannot help but learn when you start doing competitions/critiques.
quote=planepics I think this camera club I just j... (show quote)


Here's the moon. I still can't get a good exposure. EVERY time I take pics (about 8 or 10 at a time), I change settings and have to PP like crazy. It's either overexposed or so dark that it's impossible to lighten up. This is the best one I've gotten. I think it would be easier to take pictures of bouncing tennis balls.



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May 21, 2012 19:06:55   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
planepics wrote:
Perry wrote:
planepics wrote:
I have an egret picture along with another I'm not sure about (on another thread) that I am going to enter in my first "live" photo contest at a camera club I just joined (my avatar was my first and only win (on-line submission)). I have received so many divergent comments about the pic. Some talk about the "rule" of thirds, some talk about my focus point, and some talk about composition and whether or not the branches or the tree surrounding it, which were unavoidable, enhance or detract from the shot. May I ask for your opinion on the egret and may I post or give the link?
I have an egret picture along with another I'm not... (show quote)


I would love to see your egret. Please do!
quote=planepics I have an egret picture along wit... (show quote)


Here it is. Enjoy and criticize! The contest is tomorrow. there are about 100 people in the club that I found out about through a link on another photo club website (farther away and higher dues). A couple in the club are photography class instructors at one of our local colleges and a few or more are pros that have their own studios, but most are just shutterbugs like me. The first meeting I attended last month was incidentally their year end "best of the best" contest. All I can say is that I'm in for a challenge. Some of their meetings have instructional tutorials, some have contests with various categories, and occasionally have outings. I can't wait to keep on learning from them, UHH patrons, and I might even take some of the college photog courses.
quote=Perry quote=planepics I have an egret pict... (show quote)


It's a beautiful bird. The eye being obscured tends to mar an otherwise lovely specimin, even if the branches in the foreground tend to distract. I wouldn't point any of this out to you if you would have got this shot in the wild and you didn't have better access to it. (You aren't trying to sell that pic either... LOL). I love the color and the clarity of the bird's plumage though and I would love to know the lighting, what camera, lens, and settings you used to get that shot. My thought is that if you were able to get that much detail in an obscured shot, how much more beautiful would that bird have been under better circumstances?

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May 21, 2012 19:08:12   #
robert-photos Loc: Chicago
 
Just received this link in my email...What Buyers Want from Photographers: 2012 Survey :

http://www.photoshelter.com/mkt/research/2012-photo-buyers-survey

It is free for registering your email address.

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May 21, 2012 19:09:15   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
planepics wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
planepics wrote:
I think this camera club I just joined is going to be great! 3 out of the next 4 meetings there is an educational program with competitions (misc. subject print and digital) and one of the sessions is a portrait shoot, with lighting and backgrounds provided. I've never done anything like that before. Whether I embarrass myself or do a good job, I can hardly wait to experience that part of photography. I've finally decided that tomorrow I'm going to enter a moon pic and my egret pic. Even if I get last place, I intend to learn something!!
I think this camera club I just joined is going to... (show quote)


Now THAT is the way to approach it! You cannot help but learn when you start doing competitions/critiques.
quote=planepics I think this camera club I just j... (show quote)


Here's the moon. I still can't get a good exposure. EVERY time I take pics (about 8 or 10 at a time), I change settings and have to PP like crazy. It's either overexposed or so dark that it's impossible to lighten up. This is the best one I've gotten. I think it would be easier to take pictures of bouncing tennis balls.
quote=CaptainC quote=planepics I think this came... (show quote)


I like it. I was so bummed when it clouded up on us here in Michigan the night of the "super moon".

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May 21, 2012 19:12:52   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
betsout06 wrote:
Perry wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
Let me ask you a question - are the images you are posting images you think would sell by being online? If they are, you are going to wait a long time for a check. The little boat is not really interesting at all, the turkey is not composed well and is waaay too busy. Is it a shot of a log with a turkey behind it or a shot of a turkey with some stuff around it? If you want a photo of a turkey, the bird needs to be dominant in the image. You need to be a LOT closer and lower - looks like you were standing up when you took it.

Go to iStockPhoto.com, type in Wild Turkey and see how it is done - and what you have to compete with.

The white bird (Egret?) is a nice shot-good composition and it looks like there is detail in the white. But the angle is not good as it is going away from you and the head is dark with no light in the eye. It is, however, by far the best image.

I am not trying to be harsh, but realistic. And you did ask.
Let me ask you a question - are the images you ar... (show quote)


I understand Captain, I don't expect anyone to blow sunshine in my ears, I am just starting to venture out on this for the first time, so I know I have a lot to learn. And I figured that coming here with some of these pics was a good idea to seek advise on making a photo vs a snapshot.

As for the tom turkey, I had to shoot this one from my pickup at dusk, and he was a good distance away. As you might know about turkeys yourself, they are extremely skittish, and would have been gone like a fart in a hurricane if I even thought of getting any closer. Perhaps I could have cropped the pic, but I thought the log complimented the tom as it would be part of his environment, but I can see where it might be a distraction. I guess I will need to save up for a longer lens or one of those telephoto lenses that multiply the zoom. My lens is a 55-300mm Nikkor DX VR.
quote=CaptainC Let me ask you a question - are t... (show quote)

I have the same lens....and the same complaint about "soft" focus. The lens is sharpest between 80mm and about 135mm with the f between 8 and 14. I wasn't pleased to read the reviews on the lens....but for price and low weight there is always a compromise. Read the review on slrgear.com Nikon lens. As I've read before....it's all about the glass....and great glass is pricey and heavy.
Keeping the limitations of the lens in mind, I was able to get some amazing photos...fairly sharp...out in Utah last week.
Keep shooting
quote=Perry quote=CaptainC Let me ask you a ques... (show quote)


Thanks for your encouraging words. I will have to keep that in mind about my lens when I am at it's limit. Any particular settings you would suggest to help with the soft focus issue?

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May 21, 2012 19:14:01   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
robert-photos wrote:
Just received this link in my email...What Buyers Want from Photographers: 2012 Survey :

http://www.photoshelter.com/mkt/research/2012-photo-buyers-survey

It is free for registering your email address.


Thanks, I will check it out.

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