Oklahoma: The Police Can take Your Money
Jun 14, 2016 09:56:16 #
If you are a "suspect" in the OK state, the police can take your money from a prepaid card.
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
Jun 14, 2016 10:04:34 #
Jun 14, 2016 10:13:06 #
Jun 14, 2016 10:32:25 #
jerryc41 wrote:
If you are a "suspect" in the OK state, the police can take your money from a prepaid card.
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
The article is very vague regarding suspect of "What"???? Since it's homeland security, I'd say it was possibly threats from foreign operatives, like ISIS or other plotters, since that would be how they quickly obtain their money without dealing with a bank.
Jun 14, 2016 11:13:07 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
I have given prepaid credit card as gifts in the past. Not so recently. If this were a standard credit card, it would be abuse of police power, IMO. Any credit or loaded card can be stolen, misused, and hacked by criminals. I had my standard credit card hacked in 2014. A month later a friend's standard credit card was hacked. I've never had one stolen, but thousands are stolen everyday. Some Major Credit Card Companies have special teams just to address this problem, to cancel your stolen card and issue you another, hacked or otherwise. The article said that if you are the legitimate owner of the prepaid card, the police will reimburse you, if not guilty of a crime. That would be a challenge too, since the police don't usually return any funds to anyone without a legal fight against them. Good luck on that.
Jun 15, 2016 06:24:13 #
richosob
Loc: Lambertville, MI
jerryc41 wrote:
If you are a "suspect" in the OK state, the police can take your money from a prepaid card.
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
How the heck does the state get away with that? I'd be screaming to somebody if that happens here in Michigan.
Rich
Jun 15, 2016 07:44:59 #
jerryc41 wrote:
If you are a "suspect" in the OK state, the police can take your money from a prepaid card.
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
This area of law continues to be problematic. It is clearly illegal siezure and lacks due process. Yet it goes on all the time. Police in Nevada have confiscated millions of dollars in cash. They are only recently under fire for it.
They claim it might be drug money but there are no drugs to be found.
Corruption exists in US police as well as in the rest of the world.
If stopped and asked "can I look in...." always answer "No way, Jose...unless you show me a warrant!" (In Nevada Jose is likely to be his name. 😄 )
Jun 15, 2016 08:16:14 #
mas24 wrote:
I have given prepaid credit card as gifts in the p... (show quote)
Are you telling us the police doing this aren't criminals?
Jun 15, 2016 08:29:35 #
leopz wrote:
What's the difference between a hacker and the police doing it.
You can try to have a hacker arrested.
Jun 15, 2016 09:13:10 #
ecar wrote:
The article is very vague regarding suspect of "What"???? Since it's homeland security, I'd say it was possibly threats from foreign operatives, like ISIS or other plotters, since that would be how they quickly obtain their money without dealing with a bank.
Yes, "suspect" is a generic, easy-to-use term, like "national security," or "need to know" or "person of interest." It's very easy for the police to take your money, but getting it back could be a nightmare.
Jun 15, 2016 10:00:48 #
jerryc41 wrote:
If you are a "suspect" in the OK state, the police can take your money from a prepaid card.
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
http://www.popsci.com/card-reader-allow-oklahoma-cops-to-seize-suspects-money?dom=rss-default&src=syn
I don't see how this could withstand a supreme court challenge--illegal search and siezure.
Jun 15, 2016 10:13:38 #
Jun 15, 2016 11:24:21 #
This has been taking place in TN for years. They call it "Policing for profit". In fact some of these thieving Police departments actually fund their departments with confiscated money. It's a real racket and they can't seem to stop it. Anyone caught with a large amount of cash a is automatically assumed to be a drug dealer, even if the cash is legitimate the citizen sometimes still cannot get it back. Talk about corruption!!
Jun 15, 2016 11:33:09 #
Effate
Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
It's not as Machiavelian as it seems. I am sure that police in every state have employed "asset seizure laws" for decades seizing cars, autos, boats, cash, houses, jewelry and anything else of value from suspected criminal enterprises. If criminals are now laundering money via prepaid cards and the proceeds are seized there will ultimately be due process and a determination of who shall rightfully retain the assets. From a government perspective they are preventing unlawfully obtained assets to be concealed,transferred or even used to hire the best legal teams. They are not stealing your grandmother's $25 Target gift card!
Jun 15, 2016 11:38:08 #
Effate wrote:
It's not as Machiavelian as it seems. I am sure t... (show quote)
"suspected" is the key word. That completely eliminates "innocent until proven guilty." What else will be police be allowed to do to people who are only suspected of committing a crime?
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