Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons (Page 3): I must live in a place of exception because I have never encountered this problem with cameras are drones. We have a large population...

Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.

I must live in a place of exception because I have never encountered this problem with cameras are drones. We have a large population of Blue Heron's here and have filmed them more than once with the drones and they didn't seem to care, just seem to go on about their business of looking for food. I do keep a respectable distance from them of course.

authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan

ptcanon3ti wrote:

I was kidding in my above reply. I am not surprised by any of the behavior you list. If you observe humans as I have been forced to do for the past 30 years, you see that they are the most militantly self centered creatures to walk the face of this earth since time began. They therefore behave as though they are the only one on earth. They are entitled to whatever their whim dujour.

EXACTLY!

It is the nature of the general public. They want something, it is I am going to have it attitude. They will completely ignore rules and signs doing what they want, how they want, where they want, any time they want getting mouthy and sometimes violent when confronted. Thankfully this type is NOT the norm and most people are respectful of limitations. My take is if one can not adhere to the limitations of the venue one is at, then one can be refused admission, PERIOD!

londonfire Loc: NY to NC

mborn wrote:

what I see is people pushing in front with cell phones and IPad to get a photo ignoring other people trying to photograph the scene/event/animal and spoiling it

And this reply also ties in with the earlier quote about kids and colleges. I was at Anghor Wat/Thom last year and kids were hanging off every rock and having friends take pics with their phones. I get really angry sometimes with the younger generation but then I stop and realize how they were raised. If they're anything like my niece and nephews they get everything they want and then some from their parents so they start every day with a sense of privilege.

chfrus

They are not photographers,lets call them "Picture Takers" A big diference.

digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan

jerryc41 wrote:

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

NOT SO MANY PHOTOGRAPHERS, "SHITTING ON STATUES ,YET... RJM

flyguy Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico

ptcanon3ti wrote:

Outlaw colleges.

Outlaw kids.

Outlaw drinking.

Done.

Blame Doctor Spock for this --- it's all his fault.

londonfire Loc: NY to NC

chfrus wrote:

They are not photographers,lets call them "Picture Takers" A big diference.

I agree 100% but I was criticized for making that observation a few months back.

chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon

As I said the first time this article was referred to, photos should have to pass a photo ethics course and places should ask to see this card before you can shoot there.

Just because you have certain equipment does not you know how to use it. Example is people at aquariums using phones with flash to shoot through glass.

Poor behavior is not limited to unethical photogs. Example at the aquarium again...I had got myself a spot in the corner of a viewing window to photograph feeding of otters. A parent sent their young to stand on the fake rock ledge in front of the window. This walked in front of me putting his hands on the clean glass and blocking any chance of me being able to shoot. There were signs telling people not to climb on the ledgeand not to hit the glass. I turned and said that is rude and left.

I am going back to this aquarium today.

Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California

jerryc41 wrote:

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

Not only photographers, but people with cameras in general. I am happy I shoot primarily natural history subjects as it is more difficult for government and private interests to charge and regulate.

aellman Loc: Boston MA

jerryc41 wrote:

"Photographers Have Become Like Pigeons," and there is nothing at all complimentary about that recent headline. We complain about areas that are closed to photography, and having to pay for permits if we want to shoot with anything more advanced than a cell phone. The reality is that most of these restrictions and charges have been put into place because rude, uncaring photographers have made them necessary.

It's true! Just the other day in the park a photographer landed on me and was eating peanuts out of my hand.
In Boston, at least, they don't fear humans any more! >Alan

sjb3

Regarding LiamRowan's earlier post:

"This Ax$#%le flies in on a very loud motorized glider at low altitude. He was deliberately spooking the cranes, which were jumping out of the fields en masse and flying off. I shot him as he went by, but it was not until I got home and looked onscreen that I saw the camera. He was willing to scare and scatter thousands of cranes in order to get the shot."

I believe dozen or so fluorescent orange paint-gun splatters on him and his plane, while not necessarily the appropriate thing to do, would have been a measure of satisfaction if not a rough form of justice.

CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver

Jim Bob wrote:

Your guess would be wrong. It's always about the money. To believe otherwise is naive.

NO I have seen this behavior from amateur photographers in national parks - no money involved. They just ignore all th rules and common decency ( and the animal's welfare) just to get a shot. No money involved. Would agree that money CAN be an issue, but to suggest that it is the only motivator is naive.

Bob Gowens Loc: Phoenix, AZ

Have you ever tried to take a shot and can't because of the people holding up every size tablet you can imagine in front of you? I have.
Bob G

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

boberic wrote:

Regardless of what any one thinks about photographers, and thinks of them as pigeons, think about this. Never has a photographer crapped on my windshield.

Yeah, but those damn videographers........

sirlensalot Loc: Arizona

As photographers, we sometimes reap what we sow. On the other hand, I think it is grossly unfair to paint everyone with such a broad brush. So, because someone is carrying a camera, they can be excluded or made to pay for permits from some areas that in fact are supported by public tax dollars? Punish the offender, not everyone.