Mac
Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
Mommyx23 wrote:
Ok, These are some outdoor harsh light shots I took Mid day on a cloudless day. For those of you who wanted to see my portrait shots...
#1 isn't too bad, though the fence could benefit from dodging. The other two are too over exposed.
NO!!! go for it...I used to do 60 or so weddings in Florida around Panama City...It is so easy, just use a fill flash but be warned the white sand like snow will turn grey unless you give it two more stops of light...Go do a few test shots at 6 am just to be sure, before the wedding and keep those settings and distance....
Mommyx23 wrote:
Ok guys, I am very stressed out and would love some suggestions. A friend of mine is getting married on the beach at 6:00 in the evening and wants me to shoot her wedding. Our sand here is Very White. Looks like snow and I told her I do not do weddings and the light will be very harsh. There will be 2 of us shooting this and we are both concerned about the lighting. we would love suggestions because neither of us do weddings. Too much stress if we mess up. Told her we didn't want to do it but she has insisted........
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Same area...Pensacola Beach..Same sand and Panama City. Thanks for your kind words of advice. I know that we all can learn from each other. I appreciate that you know the sand I am talking about!!! It does look like snow. I took my friends Christmas card photo on our beach and her dad said why were you in shorts in the snow. LOL
This is the first time I had to say this on this forum If you dont like the advice your getting then dont ask. Since you have already made up your mind to go ahead with this go out to the venue on a bright day and record your settings do portraits with some friends as subjects and see what settings are best and pray the lighting is the same as the day of the wedding. I am just trying to help. You will need someone to setup the required group shots. I have shot alot of weddings and they all are unique. Good luck to you
ebaribeault: I am sorry you feel that way. I am not upset with you and I hope you are not upset with me. I am a middle of the road photographer and was looking for some guidance. I have gotten several great ideas from others. I have been put in a situation where I am damned if I do and Damed if I don't do the wedding. I would prefer not to do it at all, but was looking for ideas from some of you better photographers. I am not here to start an argument. Even the best photographer can learn from others. That is how I have learned a lot of my photography, by asking other photgraphers how they got a certain shot or a certain look. I have also helped others as well. We are all here to make friends and learn from each other. I hope you agree...I appreciate your advice and hope to learn from it.
Once you master the sand, do what I did for twenty years. I went to the beach and actually made a protrait area. I took seven concret blocks and covered them with sand. I found a dune with lush sea oats and made my area in front of them. Note don't try to transplant sea oats, it is illegal to bother them. I started charging in the eighties about 125.00 for each sitting, but this escalated into five to seven hundred from each shoot. If they wanted a large behind the couch framed portrait and many did, it was 450.00 additional. I think I need to move back to Florida....
Mommyx23 wrote:
Same area...Pensacola Beach..Same sand and Panama City. Thanks for your kind words of advice. I know that we all can learn from each other. I appreciate that you know the sand I am talking about!!! It does look like snow. I took my friends Christmas card photo on our beach and her dad said why were you in shorts in the snow. LOL
Jim Zuckermann has mastered beach wedding's. He has books on how to do it professionally.
Mommyx23 wrote:
ebaribeault: I am sorry you feel that way. I am not upset with you and I hope you are not upset with me. I am a middle of the road photographer and was looking for some guidance. I have gotten several great ideas from others. I have been put in a situation where I am damned if I do and Damed if I don't do the wedding. I would prefer not to do it at all, but was looking for ideas from some of you better photographers. I am not here to start an argument. Even the best photographer can learn from others. That is how I have learned a lot of my photography, by asking other photgraphers how they got a certain shot or a certain look. I have also helped others as well. We are all here to make friends and learn from each other. I hope you agree...I appreciate your advice and hope to learn from it.
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One book of his and the only one you will ever need is Shooting and selling your photo's....it will get you on the right path.
Mommyx23 wrote:
ebaribeault: I am sorry you feel that way. I am not upset with you and I hope you are not upset with me. I am a middle of the road photographer and was looking for some guidance. I have gotten several great ideas from others. I have been put in a situation where I am damned if I do and Damed if I don't do the wedding. I would prefer not to do it at all, but was looking for ideas from some of you better photographers. I am not here to start an argument. Even the best photographer can learn from others. That is how I have learned a lot of my photography, by asking other photgraphers how they got a certain shot or a certain look. I have also helped others as well. We are all here to make friends and learn from each other. I hope you agree...I appreciate your advice and hope to learn from it.
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if the sand is so white, would using the Snow setting help?
Mommyx23 wrote:
I got the lighting down, have a flash, reflectors and just need posing ideas. I have been reamed up and down and I understand where you all are coming from, but some helpful suggestions would be nice. .
With all due respect; that's NOT the way you portrayed yourself in the initial post which is why this thread went the way it did.
if you just needed posing ideas...why didn't you say that?
I don't suppose (being that you have lighting "down") that you've thought about using a hand held light meter and quit worrying about blowing out the sand?
Light and dark colors are only a problem for reflected meters like your camera.
The only other issue you might run into is a dynamic range too large for the camera's sensor to handle.
That may be an issue.(dynamic range that is) I hope that the lighting is the same as tonight. We had some great ambient light and cloud cover. It is supposed to be the same tomorrow night at the same time. Again sorry if it sounded mean. Sometimes text can be taken out of context.
The first weddings I did were my kids. It wasn't a beach , both were outside with trees and sunlight , meaning shadows. I didn't even have a really good camera at time I had the Olympus C-5060 wide angle. The pictures turned out great. I followed the photographer that they hired around and watched him and shot as he did. Since then I have done 2 other weddings, both in the trees on a mountain, and they turned out great. Go for it and let your eye tell you what to shoot.
If they want you to do the wedding even though you've already warned her that you don't feel qualified, all you can do is your best. sounds like you have decided and agreed to do the wedding - then do it - prepare yourself the best you can by going to the location ahead of time and practicing - your photos are very nice - and the overexposure is common in many pictures now - it is trendy, but professionals do over expose shots and your shots are good. The decision as to whether to do it or not is yours ultimately - and so you have a right to ask people for thoughts and answers to your questions - you did not ask SHOULD I do it - you asked how - so crazy as it may be - if you want to do it - go for it and ask and study and learn till you get your answers! The bride obviously values saving money over a professional and so she knows she is making a trade-off and taking a chance - reiterate that with her and then go for it - I say!!
I always felt the same way before shooting any wedding ..that's why I don't do them now..but if someone asks me to shoot a wedding for fun then the pressure is off...most folks don't see all the flaws that we photographers see. As for shooting outdoors its always a bit scary ..because of the changing weather conditions..beach scenes are horrid in the midday but you said that it's at 6 pm..that is a great time of day for beach shots..the sun is perfect as a setting light ..use it to your advantage..use a reflector to pick up highlights ..a speed light with some rear synced lighting and a diffuser will give nice fill lighting ...don't stress..remember we shoot digital now. ..take many many MANY...shots..you will do fine....and let us see some shots later in the forum...worse case scenario put the setting in auto and just shoot as if it's a p and s...I'm sure if you shoot a few hundred shots many will come out great...don't stress ..it's just photos ..keep shooting as many as you can..as for posed..make sure you get a few full lengths ..a few traditional shots..and just have fun...
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