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May 24, 2016 10:11:36   #
Papacliff Loc: West Lafayette, Indiana
 
Ouch!!! Glad you are OK. Hope you jump back in. Got my SEL in 1974. On my first attempts at landing the instructor wrote in my logbook "today we practiced controlled crashes". He also liked to say "please don't bend THIS airplane". Thanks for sharing your experience.

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May 24, 2016 10:25:16   #
Abo
 
sammywoody wrote:
"You can be old, or you can be bold, ..... but not both" :)


Apart from Chuck Yeager, Bob Hoover, Gunther Rall, Charles Lindbergh, Hudson Fysh, Paul McGinness, Walter Matoni, Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, Yugi Gagarin, John Glenn, Valentina Tereshkova, Jim Lovell, Alan Shephard, Alexey Leonov, Louis Blériot... do I need to continue, to dispel that hackneyed untruth?

Anyway Wasso, I'm glad you survived your "heavy landing" Did you walk
away from it?

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May 24, 2016 10:47:12   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Papacliff wrote:
Ouch!!! Glad you are OK. Hope you jump back in. Got my SEL in 1974. On my first attempts at landing the instructor wrote in my logbook "today we practiced controlled crashes". He also liked to say "please don't bend THIS airplane". Thanks for sharing your experience.


ILMAO

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May 24, 2016 10:48:30   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Abo wrote:
Apart from Chuck Yeager, Bob Hoover, Gunther Rall, Charles Lindbergh, Hudson Fysh, Paul McGinness, Walter Matoni, Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, Yugi Gagarin, John Glenn, Valentina Tereshkova, Jim Lovell, Alan Shephard, Alexey Leonov, Louis Blériot... do I need to continue, to dispel that hackneyed untruth?

Anyway Wasso, I'm glad you survived your "heavy landing" Did you walk
away from it?


You left out Evil Knievel

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May 24, 2016 11:27:01   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Good pictures Wesso, I am happy that you are safe.

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May 24, 2016 11:45:19   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
ebbote wrote:
Good pictures Wesso, I am happy that you are safe.


Thanks Ebbote.

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May 24, 2016 12:50:27   #
rdgreenwood Loc: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Thanks are you kin too Lee Greenwood?
Nope, no Lees on my branch.

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May 24, 2016 13:21:18   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
mikegreenwald wrote:
I have to disagree with this answer. If there was unexpected wind causing loss of stabilized approach, the answer is to go around and try again - in other words, be flexible. If the sudden wind change was due to a new frontal wind, the answer is preparation was inadequate, and an inexperienced pilot should not have been in the air. The most common cause of sudden new wind is a thermal rising sharply nearby, causing a temporary but sometimes sharp change in wind direction and speed, almost always temporary. The go-around would have solved that problem. The instructor was not in the plane (first SOLO), but he necessarily (by FAA rule) approved the flight, and the student should have been prepared for the occurrence of the wind change beforehand.

The first student I ever soloed, many years ago, had an engine failure on his first solo. He landed safely on the runway, and go out of the 'plane angry with me for causing the failure that he thought I had set up deliberately. Only after he saw that the failure was mechanical did he realize what he had just done - with neither injury nor damage to the aircraft.
I have to disagree with this answer. If there was ... (show quote)

It all depends upon the cirumstances. If there was no warnings about crosswinds and he got clearance, and he was already on the groundwhen he flipped there was nothing he could do but survive. If he was still in the air a go-around would have been the best thing.

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May 24, 2016 13:37:02   #
rdgreenwood Loc: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
 
I'm just impressed that no "expert" has popped up and declared that the flip would have been avoided if OP had been flying a Piper.

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May 24, 2016 14:38:30   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Hard Landing, at least kept it in the Grass.
An old colleague, now retired from 45+ years as a military and commercial pilot for KLM gave me this list.

Pilot Observations
1. Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory.
2. If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger. If you pull the stick back, they get smaller. That is, unless you keep pulling the stick back. Then they get bigger again.
3. Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous.
4. It's always better to be down here wishing you were up there, than up there wishing you were down here.
5. The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
6. The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane. It is used to keep the pilot cool. When it stops, you can actually watch the pilot start sweating.
7. When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No one has ever collided with the sky.
8. A "Good" landing is one from which you can walk away. A "Great" landing is one after which they can use the plane again.
9. Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself.
10. You know you've landed with the wheels up, if it takes full power to taxi to the ramp.
11. The probability of survival, is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival. Large angle of arrival, small probability of survival & vice versa.
12. Never let an airplane take you somewhere, your brain didn't get to five minutes earlier.
13. Stay out of clouds. The silver lining everyone keeps talking about, might be another airplane going in the opposite direction. Reliable sources also report, that mountains have been known to hide out in clouds.
14. Always try to keep the number of landings you make, equal to the number of takeoffs you've made.
15. There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are.
16. You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience, before you empty the bag of luck.
17. Helicopters can't fly; they're just so ugly the earth repels them.
18. If all you can see out of the windscreen is ground, that's going round and round and all you can hear is commotion, coming from the passenger compartment. Then things are not at all as they should be.
19. In the ongoing battle, between objects made of aluminum going hundreds of miles per hour, and the ground going zero miles per hour, the ground has yet to lose.
20. The three most useless things to a pilot are altitude above you, airspace behind you, and a tenth of a second ago.

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May 24, 2016 14:56:22   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Hard Landing, at least kept it in the Grass.


I took flying lessons many years ago and this was always my greatest fear. This is, of course, not good. Hurt? If not you were very lucky. As they say, any landing you can walk away from is a good one.

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May 24, 2016 15:00:14   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
BBurns wrote:
An old colleague, now retired from 45+ years as a military and commercial pilot for KLM gave me this list.

Pilot Observations
1. Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory.
2. If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger. If you pull the stick back, they get smaller. That is, unless you keep pulling the stick back. Then they get bigger again.
3. Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous.
4. It's always better to be down here wishing you were up there, than up there wishing you were down here.
5. The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
6. The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane. It is used to keep the pilot cool. When it stops, you can actually watch the pilot start sweating.
7. When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No one has ever collided with the sky.
8. A "Good" landing is one from which you can walk away. A "Great" landing is one after which they can use the plane again.
9. Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself.
10. You know you've landed with the wheels up, if it takes full power to taxi to the ramp.
11. The probability of survival, is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival. Large angle of arrival, small probability of survival & vice versa.
12. Never let an airplane take you somewhere, your brain didn't get to five minutes earlier.
13. Stay out of clouds. The silver lining everyone keeps talking about, might be another airplane going in the opposite direction. Reliable sources also report, that mountains have been known to hide out in clouds.
14. Always try to keep the number of landings you make, equal to the number of takeoffs you've made.
15. There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are.
16. You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience, before you empty the bag of luck.
17. Helicopters can't fly; they're just so ugly the earth repels them.
18. If all you can see out of the windscreen is ground, that's going round and round and all you can hear is commotion, coming from the passenger compartment. Then things are not at all as they should be.
19. In the ongoing battle, between objects made of aluminum going hundreds of miles per hour, and the ground going zero miles per hour, the ground has yet to lose.
20. The three most useless things to a pilot are altitude above you, airspace behind you, and a tenth of a second ago.
An old colleague, now retired from 45+ years as a ... (show quote)


I'd be lucky to remember 3 of these.

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May 24, 2016 15:08:54   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I'd be lucky to remember 3 of these.
Then Prioritize: 6., 8., & 10., & 20.

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May 24, 2016 15:20:09   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I'd be lucky to remember 3 of these.

That is what printers are for.

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May 24, 2016 15:27:27   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
robertjerl wrote:
That is what printers are for.


Thanks guys. Cut me some slack.

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