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May 12, 2016 17:31:20   #
DaughterAlice
 
Hi Gary, I'm in the Orlando area. Not really close to Sarasota, but I'll be in that area late this summer.

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May 12, 2016 18:48:59   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
Welcome to UHH Alice, glad you joined us. As you have used the D7100 you already know what it can do.
Don't over look refurbished but only from reputable companies, Nikon, Adorama, B&H, Cameta & KEH.
Have fun, learn and enjoy the forum.

Don

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May 12, 2016 23:43:35   #
BudsOwl Loc: Upstate NY and New England
 
Welcome Alice. For a long time I wanted a T3i, but when I had enough money I bought a Canon 60D without lenses and used the lenses I had with my T1i. My walk-around lens for this camera is the Tamron 18-270. I sold all my other EF-S lenses when I bought my 6D. Still use the 60D, but after my granddaughter gets back from vacation in Maine and returns it to me I may be putting it on the market. You can do a great job with what you have, but if you start to accumulate more lenses I recommend that you consider only FF lens so that if you ever upgrade to full frame you will be ahead of the game.

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May 13, 2016 04:46:40   #
DaughterAlice
 
burkphoto wrote:
Welcome. Nothing wrong with your equipment. It will be quite useful in refining your craft. It may be shocking to learn that you can make great images with almost any camera, if you know what you are doing and stay within the limits of the hardware! But it's true.

I would encourage you to do some research into the works of the late Dean Collins, responsible for training thousands of photographers in the 1970s and 80s and 90s in the art of portrait and product lighting. His simple concepts can be applied to the most complex situations with just a little imagination. He never worked digitally, but all his concepts work in digital photography. (He shot mostly transparency materials, which behaved more like JPEG digital capture than anything.)

The Internet is FULL of great resources regarding lighting. Visit Westcott and Alzo sites for drool-worthy gear. Visit YouTube and subscribe to as many channels from professionals as you like. Tony Northrup is the first name I'd search for. Know that there are many levels of quality in the lighting world, but everything must follow the same laws of physics. I like lights from Paul C Buff, Inc (Alien Bees, White Lightning, and Einstein). But I also like Norman, Dyna-Lite, Photogenic, Quantum... Lots of gear is available.

BUY USED. It will save you a ton of money. B&H, Adorama, KEH, Cameta Camera are companies you can order from with confidence.

Join PPA or WPPI, or a state chapter of either. If you're in Las Vegas in January, go to the CES show and attend some PMAI events.

From your comments, I would guess that you work for a portrait or event photography company similar to Lifetouch, Interstate, Strawbridge, etc. You've probably noticed that they don't want creativity. They want you to follow their formulas... There is nothing wrong with their formulas. The challenge is to make the most of them, as often as you can. But understanding the theory and thinking that went into the formulas can help you when the situation deviates from what the formula was designed to achieve. Situations deviate from ideal more often than the boys and girls at headquarters ever want to admit!

Finally, keep looking at great images. THINK about the composition, lighting, perspective, time of day, and other elements that went into the images you like. Make notes.
Welcome. Nothing wrong with your equipment. It wil... (show quote)


So MUCH useful information here!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

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May 13, 2016 04:51:55   #
DaughterAlice
 
WF2B wrote:
Welcome Alice. For a long time I wanted a T3i, but when I had enough money I bought a Canon 60D without lenses and used the lenses I had with my T1i. My walk-around lens for this camera is the Tamron 18-270. I sold all my other EF-S lenses when I bought my 6D. Still use the 60D, but after my granddaughter gets back from vacation in Maine and returns it to me I may be putting it on the market. You can do a great job with what you have, but if you start to accumulate more lenses I recommend that you consider only FF lens so that if you ever upgrade to full frame you will be ahead of the game.
Welcome Alice. For a long time I wanted a T3i, but... (show quote)


IINTERESTING!!! I was just having this conversation with a co-worker yesterday. He was recommending that I get a used, older model FF. He showed me one online (I only recall that it was a Mark II, nothing else), for only $700, but it was 15.1 megapixals. I only have 18 as it is!! Maybe I need schooling on this, but with a FF sensor, wouldn't I want to make the most advantage of more megapixels? Could 15 give me better quality than my 18 cropped sensor? Until then it had NEVER occurred to me to go for a FF camera. I assumed that was an unreachable goal.....until my kids move out. Sigh....

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May 13, 2016 08:35:16   #
gwong1 Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Alice, I believe Orlando has a very good camera store. Have you checked with them in regards to classes? https://www.google.com/search?q=orlando+camera+store&ie=&oe=
Gary

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May 13, 2016 08:43:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DaughterAlice wrote:
IINTERESTING!!! I was just having this conversation with a co-worker yesterday. He was recommending that I get a used, older model FF. He showed me one online (I only recall that it was a Mark II, nothing else), for only $700, but it was 15.1 megapixals. I only have 18 as it is!! Maybe I need schooling on this, but with a FF sensor, wouldn't I want to make the most advantage of more megapixels? Could 15 give me better quality than my 18 cropped sensor? Until then it had NEVER occurred to me to go for a FF camera. I assumed that was an unreachable goal.....until my kids move out. Sigh....
IINTERESTING!!! I was just having this conversatio... (show quote)


Ahh, grasshopper, you have a few things to learn about: GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome), The endless sensor envy argument (full frame vs APS-C vs Micro Four/Thirds vs...) and the truth that there is a purpose, time, and place for everything.

First, know that GAS is an incurable disease. Once you catch it, it will cause you to make purchase after unnecessary purchase, all in search of product nirvana. It does not matter whether it is cars, cameras, computers, shoes, socks, baseball caps, or 1960s transistor radios, you will have to have what you don't have. NEVER MIND the fact that the purpose of owning something is to go out and use it until it falls apart or you die trying to kill it! GAS causes you to be BRAND LOYAL (Ford vs. Chevy, Mac vs. PC or iOS vs Android, Canon vs. Nikon, Nike vs. Adidas, etc.). You wind up spending hours in forums, dissecting the finer points of this or that release. Meanwhile, life passes by on the street in front of you!

Please watch this YouTube video from Zach Arias: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYidejT3KY I think he sums up the whole futility of the full frame vs APS-C argument nicely. FUGGEDDABOUDIT.

Yes, full frame cameras play important roles in the photography world. So do all other digital camera formats! But the idea that full frame is some sort of digicam nirvana is pure crap.

Look, I've used every film format from 4x5 inch view cameras down to half-frame 35mm. That's 4x5, 6x17cm, 6x9cm, 6x6cm, 6x4.5cm, 70mm full frame long roll, split 70mm long roll, 46mm long roll (four variations in negative length), 35mm unperforated long roll, full frame and half frame 35mm perforated (size 135). Every one of THEM served a different purpose, Every one of the cameras used to expose them had a long list of positive and negative attributes.

The same is true of digital cameras. There are medium format digital backs for medium format cameras. They cost tens of thousands of dollars and are used by only a few photographers who live in rarefied air. They are well suited to advertising photography. Any time you need a super-high resolution point-of-purchase display, they are a good choice.

There are full frame cameras advertised for "pros" (Nikon D5, Canon EOS 1DX Mark II, etc.) and "amateurs" (Nikon D750, Canon 6D, etc.). There are lots of in-between models. There are 50MP Canons and 36MP Nikons and 20 MP Canons and 20MP Nikons, all full frame. The differences are important for the specific user crowds they serve. Add megapixels, and you gain resolution, but you also lose dynamic range, high ISO performance, and high framing rates for sports, wildlife, etc.

In each of the smaller sensor families, there are similar variations on the same theme. Life is full of little trade-offs. As camera sensors get smaller, the lenses (can) get smaller for the same fields of view they cover. The 12-35mm zoom on my LUMIX GH4 is 1/4 the size, bulk, and weight of the full frame 24-70mm lenses it emulates. That's great for travel and fatigue reduction. But as cameras get smaller, packing the same number of pixels onto smaller chips changes things. Some things change for the better in some circumstances, while some things change for the worse.

Again, I would encourage you to work with what you have. Learn the principles of photography, and how to manipulate ALL the variables. Once you've recorded your 10,000 first images, you'll have a MUCH better idea of what gear you need, exactly WHY you need it, and you'll make a more intelligent decision about it.

Don't let anyone tell you you need something, just arbitrarily, "...Because it's the best." Always ask yourself, "Best for what?"

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May 14, 2016 06:56:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Welcome to our forum!

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May 14, 2016 07:23:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
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Don't let anyone tell you you need something, just arbitrarily, "...Because it's the best." Always ask yourself, "Best for what?"



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May 14, 2016 15:27:07   #
Kamraman Loc: Canada
 
Welcome to the forum.
You could make your own lighting equipment. SUggestions are White sheets draped over chairs Cooking foil for reflecting light. White light LED lamps.

Good luck
Kammy.

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May 17, 2016 18:20:27   #
hobbycam Loc: Now in "Hollister, Ca."
 
DaughterAlice wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm glad to find this forum and I hope it will be a good resource for me. I have a Canon Rebel T3i, and I have zero budget for anything better, so I'm doing as well as I can with what I have. My lenses are: the 18-55 kit lens (ignored), a Canon 50mm fixed lens (LOVE it), and a Tamron 18-270mm. I shoot for a living, but I don't get a choice of my settings at work. At home I take hundreds of photos, and play with settings as much as I want to. I'm eager to learn as much as I can, and I hope this forum will prove to be a valuable asset. I stay in M mode and use natural light. My greatest weakness is my lack of knowledge in lighting techniques. I have a flash that I've barely used. I would like to learn to use reflectors (I've seen various types on Amazon, not too pricey). My dream camera is a Canon T6s, or a Nikon D7100, same type I use at work. I have recently decided that owning a Nikon and becoming extremely familiar with it would make me more valuable to my company. Either way, I would like a camera with more sophisticated options than what I have now.
Hello everyone. I'm glad to find this forum and I ... (show quote)


Welcome to one of the friendliest and informative group, for the most part.
Like all groups/forums we do have our share of unpleasanltless from a few members.
How-ever what you will get is a lot of useful information and experiance from knowlegable people.

Please excuse the spelling.

Charlton "Hobbycam" Larca
May God Bless

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Jun 21, 2016 09:34:40   #
DaughterAlice
 
Hi everyone, I've been gone so long, it almost feels like I need to re-introduce myself.

Soon after I joined, I did a beach wedding shoot, and a lot of you gave me truly excellent advice. My FAVORITE was the one that told me I should be "sick" that day. Hehe! Well, I wasn't sick. I went to the wedding, I thought I was not going to be the only photographer, but I was. Terrified. Family who didn't know me were treating me like hired help, ordering me around. I take that in stride though, I'm a Disney photographer. You get used to it. Unfortunately we couldn't arrive soon enough for me to do many test shots. I chimped a LOT, but I could only barely see my screen, in the shade of a tiny sign near the boardwalk. In the end, I felt that all my photos were slightly overexposed, which I corrected for as best I could later in photoshop. I was embarrassed and mortified, but the bride LOVED them (she's an old friend, which helps). WHAT a relief. Anyway, lesson learned was to ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS use my histogram in those situations. Did I use it? NOOOOOO! I was so nervous I forgot.

Anyway, I'm still around, just have been busy with life. Still taking photos though. Somehow being behind a camera brings me so much peace. Especially when I'm on my own, with no true agenda. I wish I had more time for just personal discovery.

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Jun 22, 2016 21:09:12   #
Rob Almeda Loc: Gaithersburg, Maryland
 
Daughter Alice....the comment form Burkphoto are very well explained. Just follow what he recommends and you will be okay.

burkphoto wrote:
Ahh, grasshopper, you have a few things to learn about: GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome), The endless sensor envy argument (full frame vs APS-C vs Micro Four/Thirds vs...) and the truth that there is a purpose, time, and place for everything.

First, know that GAS is an incurable disease. Once you catch it, it will cause you to make purchase after unnecessary purchase, all in search of product nirvana. It does not matter whether it is cars, cameras, computers, shoes, socks, baseball caps, or 1960s transistor radios, you will have to have what you don't have. NEVER MIND the fact that the purpose of owning something is to go out and use it until it falls apart or you die trying to kill it! GAS causes you to be BRAND LOYAL (Ford vs. Chevy, Mac vs. PC or iOS vs Android, Canon vs. Nikon, Nike vs. Adidas, etc.). You wind up spending hours in forums, dissecting the finer points of this or that release. Meanwhile, life passes by on the street in front of you!

Please watch this YouTube video from Zach Arias: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYidejT3KY I think he sums up the whole futility of the full frame vs APS-C argument nicely. FUGGEDDABOUDIT.

Yes, full frame cameras play important roles in the photography world. So do all other digital camera formats! But the idea that full frame is some sort of digicam nirvana is pure crap.

Look, I've used every film format from 4x5 inch view cameras down to half-frame 35mm. That's 4x5, 6x17cm, 6x9cm, 6x6cm, 6x4.5cm, 70mm full frame long roll, split 70mm long roll, 46mm long roll (four variations in negative length), 35mm unperforated long roll, full frame and half frame 35mm perforated (size 135). Every one of THEM served a different purpose, Every one of the cameras used to expose them had a long list of positive and negative attributes.

The same is true of digital cameras. There are medium format digital backs for medium format cameras. They cost tens of thousands of dollars and are used by only a few photographers who live in rarefied air. They are well suited to advertising photography. Any time you need a super-high resolution point-of-purchase display, they are a good choice.

There are full frame cameras advertised for "pros" (Nikon D5, Canon EOS 1DX Mark II, etc.) and "amateurs" (Nikon D750, Canon 6D, etc.). There are lots of in-between models. There are 50MP Canons and 36MP Nikons and 20 MP Canons and 20MP Nikons, all full frame. The differences are important for the specific user crowds they serve. Add megapixels, and you gain resolution, but you also lose dynamic range, high ISO performance, and high framing rates for sports, wildlife, etc.

In each of the smaller sensor families, there are similar variations on the same theme. Life is full of little trade-offs. As camera sensors get smaller, the lenses (can) get smaller for the same fields of view they cover. The 12-35mm zoom on my LUMIX GH4 is 1/4 the size, bulk, and weight of the full frame 24-70mm lenses it emulates. That's great for travel and fatigue reduction. But as cameras get smaller, packing the same number of pixels onto smaller chips changes things. Some things change for the better in some circumstances, while some things change for the worse.

Again, I would encourage you to work with what you have. Learn the principles of photography, and how to manipulate ALL the variables. Once you've recorded your 10,000 first images, you'll have a MUCH better idea of what gear you need, exactly WHY you need it, and you'll make a more intelligent decision about it.

Don't let anyone tell you you need something, just arbitrarily, "...Because it's the best." Always ask yourself, "Best for what?"
Ahh, grasshopper, you have a few things to learn a... (show quote)

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