TheeGambler wrote:
I love all horse breeds and the Frisians are some of the most spectacular. This is a photo that speaks to the size of the Chargers that Robert was describing in his history of war horses.
A little story, here: An artist I knew was given a huge, black, Frisian stallion, by her boyfriend for her birthday. Combing her fingers through his mane, she discovered, tied into his long black mane there was a huge diamond engagement ring! Now, could there be any better way to deliver an engagement ring..than by a beautiful Frisian! To heck with the ring box!
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Yep that is a big, rather beautiful, showy heavy cavalry horse. A pretty pure white like that would have been used as a show or ceremonial horse by a knight/noble who was a bit of a show off. Most people don't know that those Budweiser Clydesdales are actually a breed that carried heavy armored knights. They are big, heavy and strong. Under the right circumstances they could run right over lighter horses or infantry. They were not very fast, I seem to remember 20 mph was about the speed of a full charge, and they couldn't keep that up for long. Other light riding horses used by light cavalry or as palfreys usually could do 25 to as much as 40 in a short burst. A pretty good light cavalry horse could do around 30. That is why if they could avoid being penned in where they had to face the knight's charge head on it was nearly impossible for the heavy knights to defeat/kill them. They couldn't catch them.
Bultaco wrote:
B U O N A D O M E N I C A
WAR HORSES - Absolutely Beautiful!
Too magnificent not to send on. These horses were originally bred as "war horses" in the days of knights and Armor. As Armor got heavier, bigger horses were needed and the Friesian almost became extinct.
They are back and are one of the most beautiful horses in stature as well as gait. Can you imagine what it would be like to ride one? Their manes and tails are the longest that I have ever seen and I noticed that when performing on grass their hooves do not kick up a divot as they land flat footed.
These horses are native to the Netherlands .
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Thanks for this. They are "bring a tear to your eye" beautiful.
ole sarg wrote:
Never forget Agincourt!
Like I said, English Bowmen behind a barrier of stakes (and in the tree line in some parts of the battlefield) with pikes to help guard them used the "arrow storm" to slaughter the French. But it took starting as a child to become really good with the long bow. That is why English law required Yeomen to own weapons and practice on a regular basis. I seem to remember that the bowmen were required to attend practice every Sunday after services.
It is sad that in the UK in a few hundred years (mostly the last 100) they went from being required to own and be proficient with weapons for the defense of the nation to the present situation where people often get jail time for self defense with the rare legal or improvised weapons. Australia is following and here in the states the antis are pushing to do so.
robertjerl wrote:
Yep that is a big, rather beautiful, showy heavy cavalry horse. A pretty pure white like that would have been used as a show or ceremonial horse by a knight/noble who was a bit of a show off. Most people don't know that those Budweiser Clydesdales are actually a breed that carried heavy armored knights. They are big, heavy and strong. Under the right circumstances they could run right over lighter horses or infantry. They were not very fast, I seem to remember 20 mph was about the speed of a full charge, and they couldn't keep that up for long. Other light riding horses used by light cavalry or as palfreys usually could do 25 to as much as 40 in a short burst. A pretty good light cavalry horse could do around 30. That is why if they could avoid being penned in where they had to face the knight's charge head on it was nearly impossible for the heavy knights to defeat/kill them. They couldn't catch them.
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Yes, in the Crusades, the Bedouins rode their fast, light-weight, desert Arabians and ran circles around the Knights.
Bultaco wrote:
B U O N A D O M E N I C A
WAR HORSES - Absolutely Beautiful!
Too magnificent not to send on. These horses were originally bred as "war horses" in the days of knights and Armor. As Armor got heavier, bigger horses were needed and the Friesian almost became extinct.
They are back and are one of the most beautiful horses in stature as well as gait. Can you imagine what it would be like to ride one? Their manes and tails are the longest that I have ever seen and I noticed that when performing on grass their hooves do not kick up a divot as they land flat footed.
These horses are native to the Netherlands .
Please ensure to have your audio on.
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Riding them is like riding any other horse ( I did ride many of them), it depends on how it's trained.
If memory serves they were trained to be part of the offensive weaponry of the knight in that they would bite those who came near their mouths.
ole sarg wrote:
If memory serves they were trained to be part of the offensive weaponry of the knight in that they would bite those who came near their mouths.
More than that, they bite kicked etc on command and on their own when fighting in close. Against smaller horses they were also trained to use their size and strength sort of like football linemen (American/Canadian football, not soccer).
In one scene, with the tri-horse carriage, about frame 1:57-2:06, the back tri-horse group all seemed in perfect step. Beautiful to watch.
Now, that's what I call a horse.
I'd never seen nor heard of Friesans until the movie, "Lady Hawke" came out in 1985, and I went totally
bonkers over that horse. PCs weren't around then, so, it was off to the library to find out just what
breed of horse Rutger Hauer rode in that movie. If I hadn't had 4 back surgeries, that would have
been the horse for me, however, a Peruvian Paso worked out very well as their gait is like riding in
a Rolls, and is very back-friendly. But, I don't think there is another breed that can beat the Friesan
for pure power and magnificence. Thank you for sharing your video find.
The English and Welsh bowmen used the "Longbow". It was a powerful tool in the right hands. The French hated them and when they captured a longbowman they made a point of amputating their fingers.
Tazzy wrote:
To ride one of those magnificent horses would be awesome!
It certainly would. Some of those tails are so long I am surprised they don't trip themselves.
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