Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

Who needs to hide behind Admins skirts? Are we all gutless or is it cos I'm English? You attack me then you had better knock me down and make sure I stay down. You let me get back up and I will beat you simple as that or Ill die in the attempt.
Proper men, and women for that matter, sort out their own problems.

Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.

It appears to me a lot of hooplah over nothing to me. Maybe I don't understand how it works. If someone has deemed the opinion of a certain individual is of no value to them....why should they have to keep listening? I see it as more of a choice of who I let in my house rather than censorship. If someone does not value my opinion or want to hear it I personally will be glad they have let me know so I don't waste my time trying to help them.

Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.

On the flip side if you are a rude host and people get wind they may stay away from your house so be careful what you wish for. I guess it might be said it is no longer an open forum. I'm not even sure what an open or closed forum is.

Papa j Loc: Cary NC

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if I did not like the content of a post I can choose not to continue viewing but to give anyone else the power to determine who can post is unacceptable
Joe

ozdude Loc: Brisbane Australia

Not exactly comfortable about this but hey what would I know.

Could be seen as a problem.

PB73 Loc: Fremont, Ohio

Allowing any censorship puts us on a slippery slope. Who's to decide what's (in)appropriate?

TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

Seems this is the way the world is going. Everyone wants to censor people that don't think exactly as they do.

But, I am hoping this will be a positive for UHH, and it will be used sparingly by individuals.

Does this really negate the purpose for being on a forum, that is, to get opinions from "different people." Or, do individuals join to hear their own opinions reinforced. Actually, a little bantering and how one handles differences, can be somewhat character-building. And, sometimes people actually learn a little from it. (I am talking about "bantering back and forth" and not down-in-the-dirt posts that make personal attacks.) This forum seems very polite, the vast majority of the time.

Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.

I doubt I'll ever need to use it as I barely get anyone to respond to begin with.....laugh,laugh,laugh. Maybe that's why I don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

Sorry Billy, this is a necessity. Unfortunately, there are some who troll just for the sake of soliciting a personal reaction. And then that leads to a never-ending thread that deviates off topic and often becomes personal. This is not the best solution but it is a solution. This is an open public forum, not a membership and there is no telling who or what may come through the door so to speak. This may even curb some characters and behaviors who may realize that no one responds to their postings as they are on so many ignore lists. I think it may even generate a new era of respect.... I like it.

Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset

Come on Billy. It is unpleasant to listen to. You can see from the hits a particular threads gets, yet few would participate. Even a thread such as this one. For most people they just ignore it and hope that it would go away, but sometimes it doesn't and something has to be said or done. This site is used by members from across the world and it needs to be welcoming not a site of unpleasantness and unfriendliness.

IT MIGHT BE THE REAL WORLD FOR YOU BILLY, NOT FOR MANY OF US. MOST MEMBERS DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. NO OFFENCE MEANT, JUST MY OPIONION.

pfrancke Loc: cold Maine

for me, I don't see this as much of anything one way or another... (I am assuming one can always post, just that the viewing of such a post can now be filtered). The fact is, we all filter and always have filtered what is available for view. I may look at FYC, but not look at the Wedding forum. This does not mean that I am censoring the wedding forum. Even when I look at something, I may choose to read fast, or I may choose to read carefully. Again, this has a massive impact on what I absorb, but it is not a censor.

Having said this, I prefer to do my own filtering (by choosing and ignoring with the hope that my time is spent wisely). I do not trust any automated type of filter because it has to potential to throw information out of context. I very much doubt that I would want to filter out anyone (in the automated fashion), but obviously filter each and every day based on what catches my interest or not.

I am ok however that such a filter exists, because now, if there is someone who gets upset with someone else - there is always an option for them to push the equivalent of an "unfriend" button.

The larger problem regarding free speech is that sometimes feelings get hurt, sometimes bully activity exists, and we all have different internal ideas about where the line is that should not be crossed. Stifle speech too much and things that should be said don't get said. Stifle speech too little and anarchy reigns. It just looks like the stifling process has moved lower down the chain, but ultimately, the reader always had full control of what he reads.

Having a thick skin and perhaps a hard shell on your back has always had it's benefits!

Edit - about respect... having respect, showing respect, I agree very much that it is possible to convey ideas and have communication in a respectful fashion. Between showing respect and having a thick skin, many problems are avoided.

second edit- BTW, this is a fascinating thread because in a sense, we are discussing sensor technology and signal to noise ratio. I think we all agree that getting the best signal gives us the potential for creating the best image!!

Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)

Billy, if what you've described is the level of interaction that you consider normal, and would be expected to promote, I'd just as soon be immune from it here UHH. Valued as some of your comments are, they aren't worth putting up with the sorts of behaviors you seem to be promoting as normal and expected.

Read the introductory rules for participation in UHH, lad; we already have censorship. if anyone seriously promotes and employs the sorts of interactions you've just described, they'll be ignored/banned/cut/shunned in a heartbeat! And rightly so. For good reason one might have a heightened index of suspicion that one could count on it.

Dave

Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)

No response?
C'mon; it's a "sittin' duck"

Dave

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

In fact, FYC’s pages are brimming with thoughtful and intelligent conversations, many of which include criticisms of posted photos. There is no downside when people treat each other with respect and consideration.

The greater danger is what Minnie warns, “... there is also a need to assure that no one individual's opinion is allowed to stifle others' opinions; otherwise we end up with a different kind of censorship - not by the power of a designated authority but instead by the power of manipulation."

btw, for those considering implementing the “ignore” feature, anyone who already finds it jolly good fun to constantly insult and ridicule will likely relish the opportunity to create a new account just so they can harass you under a different user name. Therefore, I do not intend to unfriend anyone

Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)

The point being, there are no censorious rules in the heading of UHH...which implies a reliance upon basic societal norms of decency! Stick with those, and there should be no need for feared responses to violations!

Dave