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Apr 19, 2016 17:45:24   #
bgl Loc: Brooklyn,New York
 
We recently purchased a Subaru Outback to replace our Toyota Highlander. Although the Highlander was a 2009 model with only 55,000 mi. on it and was mechanically sound, it didn't have any of the new safety features now available. Since we are getting on in years it seemed prudent to take advantage of them. The new Subaru has a collision mitigation system and will steer the car back in the lane if you start drifting out of it and of course has all those alerts. We have already benefited from these features. However, our new car cannot do what the Tesla cars can as seen in the video linked below. Pretty impressive stuff.

http://www.thedrive.com/news/3052/watch-this-teslas-autopilot-save-a-drivers-life?xid=hl

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Apr 19, 2016 17:50:32   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
They don't cost what a Tesla does either...
bgl wrote:
We recently purchased a Subaru Outback to replace our Toyota Highlander. Although the Highlander was a 2009 model with only 55,000 mi. on it and was mechanically sound, it didn't have any of the new safety features now available. Since we are getting on in years it seemed prudent to take advantage of them. The new Subaru has a collision mitigation system and will steer the car back in the lane if you start drifting out of it and of course has all those alerts. We have already benefited from these features. However, our new car cannot do what the Tesla cars can as seen in the video linked below. Pretty impressive stuff.

http://www.thedrive.com/news/3052/watch-this-teslas-autopilot-save-a-drivers-life?xid=hl
We recently purchased a Subaru Outback to replace ... (show quote)

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Apr 19, 2016 18:11:37   #
bgl Loc: Brooklyn,New York
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
They don't cost what a Tesla does either...


Quite true, but there are plenty of Luxury vehicles roughly in the Tesla price range that can't do what the Tesla can or even match the Subaru.

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Apr 19, 2016 18:31:20   #
Kuzano
 
The Tesla still has to prove itself in the market. I don't look to it having a very successful life expectancy. Too much to prove. Remember how the Auto industry destroyed Tucker and his great innovations. The Tucker was, years ago, the Tesla you fantasize about today.

Good luck.

Sorry, I'm still driving a 1977, very dependable Chevrolet Scottsdale pickup, with every function repaired as needed and a new engine recently.

All that other stuff sounds great, but I don't expect an extended life span with tens of thousands of dollars spent on lifesaving equipment. Safety belts OK... A car that drives itself... Sorry. I have to die sometime. It will probably be in my old Chevy. I could spend tens of thousands of dollars on a Tesla which I could just as easily die driving.

Sorry... not with you on this fantasy. Tesla won't make the cut imposed by the auto industry now in place.

Also, plenty of people are dying daily as a result of the "safety" and life saving equipment put in place over the last decade and a half.

Takata airbags anyone? Who is Tesla buying theirs from?

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Apr 19, 2016 23:33:36   #
bgl Loc: Brooklyn,New York
 
Kuzano wrote:
The Tesla still has to prove itself in the market. I don't look to it having a very successful life expectancy. Too much to prove. Remember how the Auto industry destroyed Tucker and his great innovations. The Tucker was, years ago, the Tesla you fantasize about today.

Good luck.

Sorry, I'm still driving a 1977, very dependable Chevrolet Scottsdale pickup, with every function repaired as needed and a new engine recently.

All that other stuff sounds great, but I don't expect an extended life span with tens of thousands of dollars spent on lifesaving equipment. Safety belts OK... A car that drives itself... Sorry. I have to die sometime. It will probably be in my old Chevy. I could spend tens of thousands of dollars on a Tesla which I could just as easily die driving.

Sorry... not with you on this fantasy. Tesla won't make the cut imposed by the auto industry now in place.

Also, plenty of people are dying daily as a result of the "safety" and life saving equipment put in place over the last decade and a half.

Takata airbags anyone? Who is Tesla buying theirs from?
The Tesla still has to prove itself in the market.... (show quote)


The point here is not to promote Tesla, it is to show where technology is taking us. Many companies are developing autonomous features in road vehicles. One of the German truck makers is testing self driving trucks in real world conditions.There is no evidence that safety equipment is costing lives rather than saving them. Are there individual cases? No doubt. Even the notorious Takata air bags have caused very few fatalities (I'm not defending them). If you live in road congested urban areas (as I do), accidents are almost inevitable. If you can buy a car equipped to avoid a collision or minimize damage, (and you can afford it) why not get these features? At this point very few car buyers are buying these safety options because they are expensive and many people have an inflated opinion of their driving skills.

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Apr 20, 2016 06:28:07   #
exakta56 Loc: Orford,New Hampshire
 
I drive a 1931 Ford Model A. If I for one second, take my eyes off of the road, I'll be in trouble. Of course I usually cruse at a heady 35 to 45 mph and the brakes aren't what the new cars have. After nearly 40,000 miles, I still have had no issues. I don't want any issues because a simple fender bender could be my demise.
Today's cars let some drivers think that they are invincible [ idiots] and when they crash, it often involves innocent others. I think that if these numbskulls were forced to drive Model As, our streets would soon be clear of these morons. Just a thought.

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Apr 20, 2016 07:38:37   #
micolh Loc: NYC
 
bgl wrote:
We recently purchased a Subaru Outback to replace our Toyota Highlander. Although the Highlander was a 2009 model with only 55,000 mi. on it and was mechanically sound, it didn't have any of the new safety features now available. Since we are getting on in years it seemed prudent to take advantage of them. The new Subaru has a collision mitigation system and will steer the car back in the lane if you start drifting out of it and of course has all those alerts. We have already benefited from these features. However, our new car cannot do what the Tesla cars can as seen in the video linked below. Pretty impressive stuff.

http://www.thedrive.com/news/3052/watch-this-teslas-autopilot-save-a-drivers-life?xid=hl
We recently purchased a Subaru Outback to replace ... (show quote)


My first car was a used 1947 4 door Plymouth. We have come a long way. I had an apt. in Bayridge, 95th St between 3rd and 4th. It was a hundred bucks a month. Rents have come a long way.

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Apr 20, 2016 08:01:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bgl wrote:
We recently purchased a Subaru Outback to replace our Toyota Highlander. Although the Highlander was a 2009 model with only 55,000 mi. on it and was mechanically sound, it didn't have any of the new safety features now available. Since we are getting on in years it seemed prudent to take advantage of them. The new Subaru has a collision mitigation system and will steer the car back in the lane if you start drifting out of it and of course has all those alerts. We have already benefited from these features. However, our new car cannot do what the Tesla cars can as seen in the video linked below. Pretty impressive stuff.

http://www.thedrive.com/news/3052/watch-this-teslas-autopilot-save-a-drivers-life?xid=hl
We recently purchased a Subaru Outback to replace ... (show quote)

Great feature. Most cars now have stability control, and many have adaptive cruise control and also radar that can apply the brakes in an emergency.

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Apr 20, 2016 08:03:02   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
micolh wrote:
I had an apt. in Bayridge, 95th St between 3rd and 4th.

I was born in Bayridge, and lived at 84th & 4th till my family moved to L.I. when I was 4.

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Apr 20, 2016 08:09:07   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I have to fess up. I retired from Subaru, after working for them for 25 years, back in 2012. I have driven Subaru's since 1982 thru till today (I'm in the retiree lease program) so I am a bit biased...My wife worked for them for awhile too. She started with them in 1979.
bgl wrote:
Quite true, but there are plenty of Luxury vehicles roughly in the Tesla price range that can't do what the Tesla can or even match the Subaru.

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Apr 20, 2016 08:27:41   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
There are a ton of people who would never let a car " drive " them in every age category . And I'm one of them . This is technology ? Perhaps I need to be fed too ?

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Apr 20, 2016 08:34:57   #
micolh Loc: NYC
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I have to fess up. I retired from Subaru after working for them for 25 years back in 2012. I have driven Subaru's since 1982 thru till today (I'm in the retiree lease program) so I am a bit biased...My wife worked for them for awhile too. She started with them in 1979.


Consumer Reports thinks Subaru is one one of the best cars to own.

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Apr 20, 2016 09:10:21   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
We are on our second and third Subaru. We lost number one in Sandy with 165K on it.
I have the older one, a 2011 Legacy and my wife has the 2013 Imprezza.
I'm looking at a new Legacy in 2017 and I really want that EyeSight system. One, because I'm getting older, and two, because I'm always looking around for a picture and not paying full attention.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 20, 2016 09:14:15   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
We have a leased 2016 Forester. Back in November, my Mother in Law passed & we inherited her 2002 Honda Accord coupe. It only had 17K miles on it...I gave my 2004 Subaru Outback wagon to my youngest son...

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Apr 20, 2016 09:35:53   #
bgl Loc: Brooklyn,New York
 
machia wrote:
There are a ton of people who would never let a car " drive " them in every age category . And I'm one of them . This is technology ? Perhaps I need to be fed too ?


Perhaps you do! (just kidding). This isn't about having your car be your chauffeur, it's about saving your butt when you are momentarily distracted or couldn't react fast enough. Ever look at the numbers on vehicular accidents, the fatalities and injuries, the property damage? It seems to me that any technology that can reduce those numbers should be welcome. The problem is that this technology isn't cheap so people will be slow to adopt.

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