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Apr 11, 2016 10:32:12   #
kelso007 Loc: Circle Pines Minnesota
 
I've been a Lightroom user from day one and have found it to be reliable and easy to use. To be honest I also use On2 plug ins for layers etc.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:33:32   #
Baysitter11 Loc: Cincinnati
 
brucewells wrote:
Good!! Rock solid. Digital photography would be much more difficult without it. But then, I bought a book and watched the videos and spent time to learn how it is supposed to work. It's powerful and not to be taken lightly.

Curious what book you used to take you through LR. I have the stand alone and so far I like it but the learning curve has been, well, let's just say "curvey".

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Apr 11, 2016 10:34:58   #
whiskey sierra
 
It's awesome - the errors and glitches have all been mine. YouTube tutorials make all the difference. LR has improved the final renditions of my photography exponentially.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:43:01   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
Lightroom: good... Solid, reliable, love it. :thumbup: :mrgreen: :thumbup:

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Apr 11, 2016 10:50:20   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
Good... I've been using it for a couple of years now and the only time it screwed up is when I screwed up using it.

Lightroom is a huge program with a ton of features and you cannot learn to use it in a day. Even after a couple of years of use I'm still learning new things about the program. It's a constant learning curve.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:50:50   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
I started this thread and have never started one that went to 5 pages on my computer! Thanks.

I try to "give back" a little here and other forums where I think I can. When Lightroom, and other Adobe products, are involved, it can seem that there is some doubt that Adobe can still make quality products.

The results on this thread are reassuring!

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Apr 11, 2016 11:02:36   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
DWU2 wrote:
Dave, suggest you try this:
1) Take a "test" raw file and store it in a directory where you want it to stay.
2) Import that RAW file into Lightroom's catalog.
3) Make your basic edits in LR (once you're accustomed to LR, you're often going to be finished then).
4) Now use Lightroom as your "base camp" for visiting any other plug-ins, including NIK, DXO, and PS. The command is (right click on photo),Edit In . . . . When you want to process in one of those plugins, LR will ask you if you want to Edit a copy with LR Adjustments. Choose that.
5) If you want to edit further in another plugin, this time choose Edit Original instead, so you don't keep creating additional TIF's (or JPG's or other file formats).
6) When you're finished, the edited photo will be in your LR catalog.
Dave, suggest you try this: br 1) Take a "tes... (show quote)


Also, when you initially setup your import, you have a choice of how Lightroom imports the images. Your choices are [ Copy AS DNG, Copy, Move, or ADD] if you have copy as DNG selected before the import, Lightroom will copy your RAW, JPG or whatever as DNG. If you have Copy selected it will copy RAW as RAW, JPG as JPG etc. and of you have move selected it will move the RAW, JPG or what ever files from your card to the file. Personally, I have copy selected so that my memory card is untouched until I verify that my images are in the catalog. Once I have verified my images, I format the card in the camera. I never (well I did accidently when I first started) copy images as DNG. I keep everything as NEF (raw) or JPG. I also have the import use the shot date as the file folder.. That way if I took pics on 4/14/16 and 4/15/16 Lightroom creates a folder for each and puts the appropriate images in each folder. Then, after that is done and once I have edited (by the way, I never, ever crop my original images. I ALWAYS create a virtual copy for cropping. This way I have the original so that I can make other virtuals for different purposes. I can sometimes get 2 or 3 other images out of a single shot.

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Apr 11, 2016 11:09:31   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
bsprague wrote:

Would you please post a "Good" if it is reliable and a "Bad" if it is not reliable.

My post is "Good". It has been flawless.


Good


Bud, I have had it hang up a few times and had to exit LR and restart it. This only happens if I do something like delete a lot of images and then edit a lot of images. I think LR gets behind a little. Sometimes I just do something else while it catches up. It's not perfect, but it's not as bad as PSE with huge catalogs like I have now.

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Apr 11, 2016 11:15:05   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I have been saving/importing them as TIFF.

Please recommend a comprehensive book. I have been trying to learn from on-line tutorials but I know I'm missing something.


First, I'm concerned about your workflow. Lightroom would be the first step in it, not the last. After first processing in DXO and then PScc what are you hoping to accomplish in Lightroom? Generally you world import your raw files into Lightroom as a front end, make you exposure and noise reduction modifications there, and from within Lightroom you world send the image to a back end application like PScc as a TIFF file for layers and pixel editing.

DXO vs Lightroom is usually an either or proposition, not both. I don't think you'll find a work flow that uses both, and certainly not in the order you want to use them.

There are a number of Lightroom books and everyone has their favorites. Scott Kelby's is very popular, but it doesn't cover every feature. If by comprehensive, you mean the most complete, than the best choice, IMO would be from Adobe Press, The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC/Lightroom 6 Book by Martin Evening. It's 744 pages long though.

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Apr 11, 2016 11:21:25   #
KennyMac Loc: Lynchburg, VA
 
GOOD !!
When Lightroom was introduced, I was using Elements because PS was out of my price range. I bought LR and was initially pretty confused. The catalogue concept was radically different and confusing compared to Elements & PS/Bridge. Spent a lot of time reading and creating more catalogue confusion before the basics sunk in ! 90% of my editing is done (shooting RAW) in LR. Would consider parting with PS before giving up LR.

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Apr 11, 2016 11:41:52   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
Good!!!

That's why I stopped using other tools. NO PROBLEMS!

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Apr 11, 2016 11:48:56   #
FloydP Loc: Arvada, CO
 
Good for me. Any troubles is because I am still on a learning curve, not software.

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Apr 11, 2016 12:04:43   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
Baysitter11 wrote:
Curious what book you used to take you through LR. I have the stand alone and so far I like it but the learning curve has been, well, let's just say "curvey".


I started with Version 3, and bought the book for that version, but it has continued to be updated for newer versions of LR. It's titled Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classroom in a Book. Amazon has it, but I'm sure others do, as well.

I started at the beginning of the book and worked all the way through it, page by page. It went rather quickly, and in the process, I was introduced to everything LR does, complete with instructions on how to do it. Very intuitive book. Highly recommended.

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Apr 11, 2016 12:18:45   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Davethehiker wrote:
No I did not "IMPORT" it. I just crated a subfolder called RAW and manually saved it there. I don't think LR and DxO play nice with each other. At least they were not when I started this stupid way of storing my RAW files.

To tell the truth my way is so clumsy, that I have stopped using LR.

I hope someone can tell me a better way to make LR and DxO "play" together.


Well, there lies your problem - Lightroom cannot see the raw because it was never added to the catalog?

I have a feeling if you begin and end your photo work with Lightroom then your problems cease. You always import your raws into Lightroom - and all that does is put them onto your disk where you want them for you and create entries in the Lightroom catalog - once images are in the catalog (database) Lightroom can see them.

You can always "edit in" DX0 from Lightroom by adding it as an external editor, but I suspect that if you use Lightroom as your tool to manage your images and forget about using explorer/finder and other tools to directly work on your images then you will have fewer issues.

Pretty much you are free to add any and as many external editors to the EDIT IN dialog.

BTW - Doesn't DX0 get added as an export plugin automatically for Lightroom? It did on my setup.

EDIT: My mistake... not an export plugin, but a plugin extra....see image....



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Apr 11, 2016 12:21:17   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
mwsilvers wrote:
First, I'm concerned about your workflow. Lightroom would be the first step in it, not the last. .
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DXO vs Lightroom is usually an either or proposition, not both. I don't think you'll find a work flow that uses both, and certainly not in the order you want to use them.


There are a number of Lightroom books and everyone has their favorites. Scott Kelby's is very popular, but it doesn't cover every feature. If by comprehensive, you mean the most complete, than the best choice, IMO would be from Adobe Press, The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC/Lightroom 6 Book by Martin Evening. It's 744 pages long though.
First, I'm concerned about your workflow. Lightroo... (show quote)


I was hoping to use the powerful RAW conversion tools offered by DxO and the searching (key word) tools provided by LR.

Sadly, I fear you are right and there is no way to combine them smoothly. Perhaps I should investigate the cataloging features that DxO offers and forget about LR. Too bad. :-(

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