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Apr 10, 2016 21:00:49   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
oneillj wrote:

I also need food and a way to heat it up.


Don't worry about that....., the worms are fine right outa the ground!!! :lol:
SS

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Apr 10, 2016 22:50:04   #
oneillj
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Don't worry about that....., the worms are fine right outa the ground!!! :lol:
SS


:D

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Apr 10, 2016 22:52:59   #
oneillj
 
Wandering wrote:
Got any idea as to where you are going? Or, is that in hiding also?


Well, I'm going back to Guadalupe National Park in August to get some star trails on El Capitan. That's just a hike up and back. I also will go to Caprock about an hour or so from Lubbock to get some night sky stuff. Definitely will have to camp out there.

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Apr 11, 2016 06:18:10   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
oneillj wrote:
Thinking I'm going to have to camp out to get some of the shots I want. Haven't camped since I was in the Boy Scouts. Haven't the slightest idea how to go about it. If I need to hike 6 or 8 miles into a park to get a shot, how would I get a tent, mess kit, etc. plus all my photography gear in there? Any experienced landscape people who can give me a clue. I want to stop by Cabella's and see what's there but I want to know the right questions to ask.


Buddy, you are asking the wrong questions in the wrong forum. Go to a camping blog site and ask the same question. Better yet, google it, what to take on a hiking trip, hiking 6 to 8 miles with photography equipment. You would be pleased with what will come up. Information you can really use. The internet is a lot like using a library. You don't look in the kiddie section for an adult book, or do you? Besides that, if you are a former scout as you claim then use some boy scout methods, leave the place cleaner than when you came, plan your work and then work your plan. You should know the rest of the drill from experience.

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Apr 11, 2016 06:49:13   #
Grnway Loc: Manchester, NH
 
The better question that I have to ask is if you're asking about all this equipment, have you ever hiked in the backcountry for 6-8 miles with a heavy load? It's no "walk in the park" (pardon the pun). It's a lot more rigorous than it sounds.

That being asked, I'd limit the kit to one or two lenses. I find that on my hiking trips, I'm using relatively short focal lengths. I'd definitely take the 24-70, and maybe the 50mm prime, and leave the rest, unless you know of a specific capture where you need a longer reach. Bring plenty of zip-lock bags that will fit your entire kit in quickly.

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Apr 11, 2016 06:52:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
oneillj wrote:
Thinking I'm going to have to camp out to get some of the shots I want. Haven't camped since I was in the Boy Scouts. Haven't the slightest idea how to go about it. If I need to hike 6 or 8 miles into a park to get a shot, how would I get a tent, mess kit, etc. plus all my photography gear in there? Any experienced landscape people who can give me a clue. I want to stop by Cabella's and see what's there but I want to know the right questions to ask.

"Camping" with a 36' Airstream is totally different than camping with a small tent. Using a trailer, I would bring everything, but with a tent, I would travel light, probably one camera and lens, or a compact camera.

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Apr 11, 2016 06:53:01   #
Canonman333 Loc: Far Northern End of California
 
You say you've not done anything like this for years. Are you in good physical shape? Even with lightweight backpacking gear, with the camera equipment you're considering taking, you may end up with a very heavy backpack. I've been a backpacker and a photographer for most of my life. I've never taken any camera gear with me that comes close to what you're considering. But, you may be in very good shape and if so, not bothered by a heavy pack...or are only carrying the pack to a specific location, camping there for a few days and then hiking out. Also, before you go, fill your backpack with all you're considering taking and go for a 10 mile hike and see what the pack feels like. Try out your water filter, stove, sleeping gear etc...and know how to put up your tent. From your post, I'm led to believe you know little about backpacking. And, you're going alone as well. I'm not trying to discourage you at all...just pointing out the need to know your gear and that you need to be in appropriate physical condition. Perhaps you're much younger than most of us in our group. Youth can compensate for a lot.

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Apr 11, 2016 07:18:10   #
oneillj
 
billnikon wrote:
Buddy, you are asking the wrong questions in the wrong forum. Go to a camping blog site and ask the same question. Better yet, google it, what to take on a hiking trip, hiking 6 to 8 miles with photography equipment. You would be pleased with what will come up. Information you can really use. The internet is a lot like using a library. You don't look in the kiddie section for an adult book, or do you? Besides that, if you are a former scout as you claim then use some boy scout methods, leave the place cleaner than when you came, plan your work and then work your plan. You should know the rest of the drill from experience.
Buddy, you are asking the wrong questions in the w... (show quote)


Last time I camped was in the early '70s. A lot's changed. But you're right. There probably is a lot out there. Just figured here, I'd find someone who does both. :)

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Apr 11, 2016 07:22:30   #
oneillj
 
Canonman333 wrote:
You say you've not done anything like this for years. Are you in good physical shape? Even with lightweight backpacking gear, with the camera equipment you're considering taking, you may end up with a very heavy backpack. I've been a backpacker and a photographer for most of my life. I've never taken any camera gear with me that comes close to what you're considering. But, you may be in very good shape and if so, not bothered by a heavy pack...or are only carrying the pack to a specific location, camping there for a few days and then hiking out. Also, before you go, fill your backpack with all you're considering taking and go for a 10 mile hike and see what the pack feels like. Try out your water filter, stove, sleeping gear etc...and know how to put up your tent. From your post, I'm led to believe you know little about backpacking. And, you're going alone as well. I'm not trying to discourage you at all...just pointing out the need to know your gear and that you need to be in appropriate physical condition. Perhaps you're much younger than most of us in our group. Youth can compensate for a lot.
You say you've not done anything like this for yea... (show quote)


Very good points. No, I'm older and not in the best of shape. I wouldn't take a strenuous hike with all that on. I would take all that stuff in the car. Which also brings the issue up I wrote in a previous post. Do I leave some of my camera gear in a car overnight while hike in with on or two lenses and a body and tri-pod.

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Apr 11, 2016 08:07:58   #
rmm0605 Loc: Atlanta GA
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Boy, I'd hate to camp with you. I love earth worms and all but I hate to use a rock for a pillow!!!! LoL
SS


SS, you have it all--no bugs in the redwoods and low humidity except when the fog rolls in--and then the temp is in the 50'a. No. California is the ideal camping zone!

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Apr 11, 2016 09:40:19   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
oneillj wrote:
I'll be shooting landscape. So, need the diopter, 50mm, 16mm Fisheye, 70-200mm, 24-70 or 24 - 120 f/4.0, filters, intervalometer/timer, tripod, lens cloth, ipad/phone, lcd loupe and a few other small items. Even a speedlight if I need to shoot up close and need some fill. Now, that's everything! I'd have to leave some of that stuff in the car. Which brings me to another issue. If I'm 1000 miles away from home, do I really want to leave all that stuff in the car for a night or two in national park parking lot? 99 times out of a 100 I'd probably be OK but do I want to take that chance?
I'll be shooting landscape. So, need the diopter, ... (show quote)


REI was a great suggestion. I backpack and camp in National Parks frequently. I would put photo equip at a minimum. Leave the 50mm in the trunk, with the 24-120. The 70-200 will weigh the same as tent and sleeping bag combined but I still carry mine. I have never had problems with equipment stored in trunk as long as it is not too hot. I use a 16 a 35 frequently but like the 28 - 70. Keep tripod light but sturdy.
Good thing about most REI equipment is that it can last for 20 yrs. start in parks where you can camp in park and just day hike to location. Then expand until you are in hiking shape. If in mountains, watch out for high altitude sickness. I am just recovering from HAPE six months ago. Only at 12,000 ft. But getting old can be a bitch. Enjoy..Michael

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Apr 11, 2016 09:57:15   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
oneillj wrote:
Thinking I'm going to have to camp out to get some of the shots I want. Haven't camped since I was in the Boy Scouts. Haven't the slightest idea how to go about it. If I need to hike 6 or 8 miles into a park to get a shot, how would I get a tent, mess kit, etc. plus all my photography gear in there? Any experienced landscape people who can give me a clue. I want to stop by Cabella's and see what's there but I want to know the right questions to ask.

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Here is a list of what I take on a 1 to 3 month trip......

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List of "STUFF" I take on trips to Photographic Locations.

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Jeep = To get me around.

Cameras (6 to 8 different types).

Three tripods - One heavy (for the 8X10 Ansco) two light.

Exposure Meter(s) two Weston's - One Honeywell Spot-Meter.

Back-pack.

Film holders (4"X5" 40 of them - 10 - 8"X10" and a case to carry them.

Film Changing bag.

Lenses - (Sometimes way too many) from 8mm "Fish-Eye" to 600mm telephoto.

Assortment of Camera and Lens tools.

Soft shock resistant Lens holders.

Two aluminum Kilark camera boxes (One Large and one small).

Liquid lens cleaner & Wiper clothes for lenses.

Memory cards - 8 each of 16 Gigabytes.

Back-up Drive(s) - 4 of them @ 500Gig each. (one is a card reader/Hard-drive no computer needed).

Lap-Top computer.

Card Reader.

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Chuck-Box (food storage) "lid" hinges down on 2 chains that becomes a table.

Assortment of "Canned Meat and fish", Beans and other vegetables, loaf of bread.

Peanut Butter, Grape Jelly.

Paper plates, forks - knifes - spoons.

One quart Pot, One Fry-Pan, two bowls, Coffee Pot (Mandatory).

COFFEE, Tea, Chocolate Mix, Single Malt Scotch - Shot glasses - Coffee Mugs.

Thermos bottle - 8 Cup Large (for COFFEE).

Gas Camp Stove - Extra bottles of Propane Gas.

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Tent

5 Gallon Water Tank (filled with Saint Louis Water (the best in this country - perhaps the whole earth).

Sleeping Bags (2) One light, One down Winter "bag of sleep".

1-Large electric flashlight (extra batteries).

1-Air-Bed (queen-size) - With air-compressor (blower).

1-Scanner Radio (for Weather Forecasts).

Hatchet, Large knife, Small pocket Swiss Army Knife (that is with me all the time).

1-1000 Watt - 12 Volt DC to 120 Volt AC Power Inverter.

Extension cord 50 Feet long.

1-One Coleman gas lantern.

U.S. Road Atlas - and assorted Maps (topographical).

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4 pair of jeans - 8 "T"-Shirts - 8 pairs of socks, shaving and other items of "help" = in a duffel bag and small nylon bag.

All this into the Jeep with seats down to form a flat bed to fit it all in.

This is taken for a month to three months outing.

So................

Who wants to go shooting for a month?


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Apr 11, 2016 10:22:15   #
Fayle Loc: Seward, Alaska and Rionegro, Colombia
 
oneillj wrote:
Thinking I'm going to have to camp out to get some of the shots I want. Haven't camped since I was in the Boy Scouts. Haven't the slightest idea how to go about it. If I need to hike 6 or 8 miles into a park to get a shot, how would I get a tent, mess kit, etc. plus all my photography gear in there? Any experienced landscape people who can give me a clue. I want to stop by Cabella's and see what's there but I want to know the right questions to ask.


Good for you to go after the shot!
I use a Canon 5D III with a 24-105 f/4L, Tripod and sometimes a 70-200 f/4 L. The 24-105 goes everywhere with me. Always.

I recommend this book to help you lighten your gear load. Most people take WAY too much stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpackin-Tips-Inexpensive-Lightweight/dp/0762763841/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1460383520&sr=8-3&keywords=mike+clelland

Next week I'm heading to Washington to hike a 35-40 mile section of coast on the Olympic Peninsula. I'm planning on taking food for six nights out. I could do it faster but I'm allowing time for sunset/sunrise photos at scenic places. I learned quite some time ago that the quality of my images is directly proportional to the time & effort I put in to getting them.
In August I'm going back to Washington to hike the Wonderland Trail. (Google for details)

My pack weight with 10 days worth of food & 1.5 liters of water is 37 lbs.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:46:44   #
HillbillyHiker Loc: Cookeville, TN
 
Canonman333 wrote:
You say you've not done anything like this for years. Are you in good physical shape? Even with lightweight backpacking gear, with the camera equipment you're considering taking, you may end up with a very heavy backpack. I've been a backpacker and a photographer for most of my life. I've never taken any camera gear with me that comes close to what you're considering. But, you may be in very good shape and if so, not bothered by a heavy pack...or are only carrying the pack to a specific location, camping there for a few days and then hiking out. Also, before you go, fill your backpack with all you're considering taking and go for a 10 mile hike and see what the pack feels like. Try out your water filter, stove, sleeping gear etc...and know how to put up your tent. From your post, I'm led to believe you know little about backpacking. And, you're going alone as well. I'm not trying to discourage you at all...just pointing out the need to know your gear and that you need to be in appropriate physical condition. Perhaps you're much younger than most of us in our group. Youth can compensate for a lot.
You say you've not done anything like this for yea... (show quote)


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Apr 11, 2016 10:55:17   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
oneillj wrote:
I just went to the REI in Dallas. At first it didn't even look like it had camping gear. Then, I found a guy to help me. The reason I couldn't find the camping stuff is it's so small it fits on the same kind of shelf the put shirts and pants on.

You're right. Very knowledgeable and knows his stuff because he does it. Also right about the $1000. I'll definitely be going there to get the stuff when I'm ready.

So, we went over some stuff that I didn't even know existed since I have camped since the 70's.
Light weight 1 man tent around $299.
Didn't remember what the sleeping bag cost.
Gotta get a Tent Footprint...
A hiking backpack..

I couldn't believe the tent was less than 2lbs. All this and the camera gear can fit in the backpack. I also need food and a way to heat it up.

Yes... absolutely close to $1000 when it's all said and done.
I just went to the REI in Dallas. At first it didn... (show quote)


Couple of suggestions:

If at all possible, get a 2 - 3 man tent. Not much bigger and it leaves some room for gear once your inside. Also make sure it is "self - supporting".

If your not going to be camping in wide range of temperatures, you won't need the cost or bulk of a 4 season bag.

Try your mattress, cot or air mattress before you buy it.

Bill

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