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Apr 1, 2016 08:38:49   #
The Saint KK4GO Loc: Florida
 
Allen Essek wrote:
If you are considering the purchase of a new camera, and are considering the Canon 7D MK II, I would very strongly, advise you,
to seriously, look into the Nikon D7200.

They are two parallel cameras, and the Nikon camera. has a very far superior. Image Sensor. to the Canon camera. which is very important!

You can see these camera's rated, at the scientific Camera Testing Website: https:/www.dxomark.com, just select "Camera" and then both Nikon and Canon, and you can see the ratings of both of these cameras.

The D7200 is rated at 87, while the 7D MKII is rated at 70 !!!

The only thing, that the 7D MKII is best for is for photographing Birds In Flight, due to it's type of focusing system, that it uses.

For all, other use, the Nikon D7200, is the better camera.

This is my opinion, based upon my own knowledge, of all of the available facts, and information, regarding these two cameras.

I've spent 50 hours or more studying these DSLR camera's extremely carefully and all of the other available camera's on the market. I know just what I'm talking about.

I was shopping for one of these two camera's, myself, and I selected, and finally did purchase, the Nikon D7200 camera, as I clearly understood it, to be the better camera, for all kinds of general use.

It is, the ultimate, crop sensor, DSLR, on the market, today! (I am not considering the Nikon D-500 at $2,000.00)

It is perfect in EVERY way!!!

You are guaranteed, to love, this camera, in every way!!!

FURTHER, BE ADVISED, THAT THIS $1,100.00 BODY, IS TODAY....

BEING SOLD ---SPECIAL--BY WWW.ADORAMA.COM

FOR ONLY $779.00 !!! REFURBISHED !!!

THIS IS THE DEAL OF A LIFETIME !!!

I WOULD INSTANTLY, JUMP ON IT, TODAY, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING, ONE OF THESE, VERY FINE CAMERA'S!!!

*****You will never again, touch this, very great, Price, anywhere, and the Nikon Factory Refurbished Camera's, are just as good,
as Brand New ***Many Believe they are Better, Than Brand New
Stock To Buy !!!

Happy days...To all of you Photographer's out there on the Hog!

Allen...

PS - If you're even considering the purchase of a Nikon D7200 I'd very strongly advise you to quickly contact Adorama today and to make your move and get one of these refurbished camera's as this price is a literal STEAL!!!
If you are considering the purchase of a new camer... (show quote)


Yeah, but.... It's still only a Nikon :(

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Apr 1, 2016 09:32:44   #
Brooklyn-Camera Loc: Brooklyn, New York City
 
It's a crop sensor camera 1.6 I own one and I love it. Used for shooting sports.

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Apr 1, 2016 09:36:05   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Allen Essek wrote:
If you are considering the purchase of a new camera, and are considering the Canon 7D MK II, I would very strongly, advise you,
to seriously, look into the Nikon D7200.

They are two parallel cameras, and the Nikon camera. has a very far superior. Image Sensor. to the Canon camera. which is very important!

You can see these camera's rated, at the scientific Camera Testing Website: https:/www.dxomark.com, just select "Camera" and then both Nikon and Canon, and you can see the ratings of both of these cameras.

The D7200 is rated at 87, while the 7D MKII is rated at 70 !!!

The only thing, that the 7D MKII is best for is for photographing Birds In Flight, due to it's type of focusing system, that it uses.

For all, other use, the Nikon D7200, is the better camera.

This is my opinion, based upon my own knowledge, of all of the available facts, and information, regarding these two cameras.

I've spent 50 hours or more studying these DSLR camera's extremely carefully and all of the other available camera's on the market. I know just what I'm talking about.

I was shopping for one of these two camera's, myself, and I selected, and finally did purchase, the Nikon D7200 camera, as I clearly understood it, to be the better camera, for all kinds of general use.

It is, the ultimate, crop sensor, DSLR, on the market, today! (I am not considering the Nikon D-500 at $2,000.00)

It is perfect in EVERY way!!!

You are guaranteed, to love, this camera, in every way!!!

FURTHER, BE ADVISED, THAT THIS $1,100.00 BODY, IS TODAY....

BEING SOLD ---SPECIAL--BY WWW.ADORAMA.COM

FOR ONLY $779.00 !!! REFURBISHED !!!

THIS IS THE DEAL OF A LIFETIME !!!

I WOULD INSTANTLY, JUMP ON IT, TODAY, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING, ONE OF THESE, VERY FINE CAMERA'S!!!

*****You will never again, touch this, very great, Price, anywhere, and the Nikon Factory Refurbished Camera's, are just as good,
as Brand New ***Many Believe they are Better, Than Brand New
Stock To Buy !!!

Happy days...To all of you Photographer's out there on the Hog!

Allen...

PS - If you're even considering the purchase of a Nikon D7200 I'd very strongly advise you to quickly contact Adorama today and to make your move and get one of these refurbished camera's as this price is a literal STEAL!!!
If you are considering the purchase of a new camer... (show quote)


And if the OP already owns a bunch of Canon equipment and is looking to move 'up the range'? Why would she abandon her stuff to jump ship just because you prefer the Nikon?

I shot with both Canon (A1) and Nikon (F2, among others) film cameras back in the day, and would not knock either brand. When I was getting back 'into' photography and wanted a DSLR, I would have happily purchased either one, or indeed others! I bought my T4i and some lenses right here on UHH, and have been happy with them and my subsequent upgrades. Once having started with the Canon, though, it would take a major event to make me change brands.

Certainly, someone else ranting about how great their gear is would not do it. Are you on commission or something?

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Apr 1, 2016 09:36:07   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
It is a terrific crop sensor Camera. I could not be happier with mine. I do sometimes wish I had a FF also (maybe someday) but for now, I user the new Canon 10-18mm EF-S ultra-wide lens when I need to go a bit wider (equivalent to 16 - 28mm on a full frame).

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Apr 1, 2016 09:39:19   #
Carolina Wings Loc: Flew from North Carolina to Pennsylvania
 
ccook2004 wrote:
Is this camera a full frame? I have googled it and saw different answers.
Thanks


Hi Clara...It's a cropped sensor...which is ideal for wildlife! This means I don't have to get as close to the wildlife as I would with a full frame camera. I have a Canon 7D MK II and bought it specifically for shooting wildlife.

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Apr 1, 2016 10:16:38   #
mmatus
 
No, it is not a full frame camera, it is called a full"feature camera" per Canon. I have the Canon 7D Mark II, and i love it. It fit my birding needs.
I also used the new Canon 100-400 lens with the 1x4 III extender that gives me over 540 to captured this longer birds.

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Apr 1, 2016 10:28:04   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
ccook2004 wrote:
Is this camera a full frame? I have googled it and saw different answers.
Thanks



By now - after reading through the previous responses - you have probably gathered that the 7D-series cameras are "crop" sensor, not so-called "full frame".

Current full frame Canon models are: 6D, 5D Mark III, 5Ds/5Ds-R, 1DX and the soon to be available 1DX Mark II.

Are you looking for a full frame camera? If so, why? What do you think it will do for you?

I'm asking because there's a lot of mythology and even misinformation about FF. In fact, it does have some advantages. But, so too do "crop" cameras.

For example, if you print big... really, really big such as 16x24" and larger... a full frame camera can provide more fine detail. Enlarging a FF image to 16x24 is approx. a 16X magnification of the original capture. In comparison, enlarging a crop sensor image to make the same size print is more than 25X magnification.

Full frame cameras also are quite good for low light/high ISO shooting. That's because they have larger individual pixel sites and less crowded sensors, that are less prone to heat and cross-talk, making their images less susceptible to image noise. Compared to a concurrent crop camera, FF can generally shoot around 2 to 3 stops higher ISO before generating the same amount of image noise as a crop sensor. (Note: It depends upon the model, too. For example, the full frame 50MP 5Ds-series models have sensors that are just as crowded as an 18 or 20MP crop camera, so they don't have the same high ISO advantage as some other FF models.)

But, there are also disadvantages to FF. There is less lens selection, for example. They require FF-capable EF lenses, while a crop sensor camera can be used equally effectively with both the same EF, plus a lot of EF-S/"crop only" lenses. FF-capable lenses tend to be bigger, heavier and more expensive, too.

And, if you use telephotos a lot, a crop camera can be advantageous. For example, for sports shoots I use a Canon EF 300/4L IS lens a lot on my 7D-series cameras. That lens sells for about $1350, weighs about 2.6 lbs and is a size that's pretty easily handheld... allowing me to be very mobile with it. If I instead were using a FF camera, in order to frame my subjects the same way from the same distances I'd have to switch to a 500/4L IS lens.... One of those costs $8000 to $9000, weighs about 7 or 8 lb. and is more than twice the size, making it pretty much a "tripod only" lens that would in turn make me far less mobile (not to mention the additional cost of a sturdy tripod rig that would likely push the total cost over $10,000).

FF can be great for some things, but not so much for others. I use both formats for different purposes. Probably 90% I shoot with crop because they do the job very well.... easily making excellent prints up to 13x19" and even 16x24", and certainly more than enough quality for any Internet use imaginable.

Finally, typically a FF camera costs more, same as the lenses it requires. Plus, if you already have a crop camera and lenses made specifically for it, you'll likely have to replace those lenses as well, making the format change a lot more expensive than just buying the camera body alone.

I'm not gonna get into the Nikon vs Canon vs any other brand debate. All brands have their strengths and weaknesses, but in general all are quite capable of making great images. The competition between brands has benefited all of us, forcing rapid development and improvement of DSLRs, at the same time that prices have come way, way down. You can buy a DSLR today for $500 that's far more capable than a $3000 DSLR was 10 or 12 years ago.

You asked about a Canon model, so I mention Canon models above. Those are what I am most familiar with, having been shooting with them for over 15 years now. Yet I also know plenty of folks happily making great images with Nikon, Olympus, Pentax, Sony and every other brand on the market today. In fact, in addition to being a photographer, I'm a collector and dealer of vintage gear. I have and enjoy most brands... including all the above (or their predecessors), plus some "orphan" systems that are no longer making cameras.

Just be aware it can be really expensive to switch brands, if you are already invested in one system or another to any extent. And, on any forum such as this you're gonna run into some fanboyz and fangirlz who will do their best to convince you to buy the brand or model they bought... I guess it's just human nature to do that.

The 7D Mark II model you ask about, in particular, is a pretty advanced, relatively pro/advanced-amateur camera. In fact it's the most professional APS-C DSLR Canon has ever made. It's very capable, but also very complex and doesn't have some of the automation and support for less experienced users that most of the "lesser" Canon models offer. The 7DII features a lot of user adjustability to be able to dial it in for specialized uses... giving the photographer a lot of control. But, this level of flexibility in a camera also puts more onto the user to set things up right and use the features correctly. An inexperienced or less careful user might actually end up getting worse results with a camera such as this, than they did with a "lesser" and simpler to use model. Folks tend to think "the more expensive and pro-oriented" a camera, the better the images... but that's not necessarily true. Money that's instead put into higher quality lenses or lenses that can do additional things often are a better investment, give greater improvements than buying a more expensive camera model.

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Apr 1, 2016 11:00:50   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Allen Essek wrote:
If you are considering the purchase of a new camera, and are considering the Canon 7D MK II, I would very strongly, advise you,
to seriously, look into the Nikon D7200.

They are two parallel cameras, and the Nikon camera. has a very far superior. Image Sensor. to the Canon camera. which is very important!

You can see these camera's rated, at the scientific Camera Testing Website: https:/www.dxomark.com, just select "Camera" and then both Nikon and Canon, and you can see the ratings of both of these cameras.

The D7200 is rated at 87, while the 7D MKII is rated at 70 !!!

The only thing, that the 7D MKII is best for is for photographing Birds In Flight, due to it's type of focusing system, that it uses.

For all, other use, the Nikon D7200, is the better camera.

This is my opinion, based upon my own knowledge, of all of the available facts, and information, regarding these two cameras.

I've spent 50 hours or more studying these DSLR camera's extremely carefully and all of the other available camera's on the market. I know just what I'm talking about.

I was shopping for one of these two camera's, myself, and I selected, and finally did purchase, the Nikon D7200 camera, as I clearly understood it, to be the better camera, for all kinds of general use.

It is, the ultimate, crop sensor, DSLR, on the market, today! (I am not considering the Nikon D-500 at $2,000.00)

It is perfect in EVERY way!!!

You are guaranteed, to love, this camera, in every way!!!

FURTHER, BE ADVISED, THAT THIS $1,100.00 BODY, IS TODAY....

BEING SOLD ---SPECIAL--BY WWW.ADORAMA.COM

FOR ONLY $779.00 !!! REFURBISHED !!!

THIS IS THE DEAL OF A LIFETIME !!!

I WOULD INSTANTLY, JUMP ON IT, TODAY, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING, ONE OF THESE, VERY FINE CAMERA'S!!!

*****You will never again, touch this, very great, Price, anywhere, and the Nikon Factory Refurbished Camera's, are just as good,
as Brand New ***Many Believe they are Better, Than Brand New
Stock To Buy !!!

Happy days...To all of you Photographer's out there on the Hog!

Allen...

PS - If you're even considering the purchase of a Nikon D7200 I'd very strongly advise you to quickly contact Adorama today and to make your move and get one of these refurbished camera's as this price is a literal STEAL!!!
If you are considering the purchase of a new camer... (show quote)


Looks like Allen got us all, least we forget what day it is, April 1st. If that's not the case then maybe we need to wonder just whom the fool is. Thank goodness for gray because everything isn't black and white. :) :) :)

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Apr 1, 2016 11:32:56   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
RRS wrote:
Looks like Allen got us all, least we forget what day it is, April 1st. If that's not the case then maybe we need to wonder just whom the fool is. Thank goodness for gray because everything isn't black and white. :) :) :)


If that *was* an April Fool's gag, it was in rather poor taste. The OP was asking a reasonable question, and using a reply to this is questionable judgment at best... If he had posted this as a new thread, maybe...

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Apr 1, 2016 11:32:57   #
chaman
 
Posted by Allen:

Quote:
This is my opinion, based upon my own knowledge, of all of the available facts, and information, regarding these two cameras.


Maybe this explains his post. We can conclude that his knowledge about the 7D2 is very, very limited. Did I say very?

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Apr 1, 2016 11:38:04   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
chaman wrote:
Posted by Allen:



Maybe this explains his post. We can conclude that his knowledge about the 7D2 is very, very limited. Did I say very?


It's still not clear whether the 7D M2 is a crop sensor or not? ;)

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Apr 1, 2016 11:42:16   #
CAS1951 Loc: San Diego
 
Bloke wrote:
And if the OP already owns a bunch of Canon equipment and is looking to move 'up the range'? Why would she abandon her stuff to jump ship just because you prefer the Nikon?

I shot with both Canon (A1) and Nikon (F2, among others) film cameras back in the day, and would not knock either brand. When I was getting back 'into' photography and wanted a DSLR, I would have happily purchased either one, or indeed others! I bought my T4i and some lenses right here on UHH, and have been happy with them and my subsequent upgrades. Once having started with the Canon, though, it would take a major event to make me change brands.
Certainly, someone else ranting about how great their gear is would not do it. Are you on commission or something?
And if the OP already owns a bunch of Canon equipm... (show quote)


Best answer I have read!

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Apr 1, 2016 12:06:53   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
ccook2004 wrote:
Is this camera a full frame? I have googled it and saw different answers.
Thanks


No

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Apr 1, 2016 12:18:13   #
picturesofdogs Loc: Dallas, Texas.
 
Carefull, or Captain Comma will start throwing semicolons at everyone, and no one wants that.

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Apr 1, 2016 13:03:20   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
ccook2004 wrote:
Is this camera a full frame? I have googled it and saw different answers.
Thanks


The 7D markII is not a full frame. If a full frame Canon is what you want I believe the least expensive model is the 6D. Prices and features go up from there.

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