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Mar 28, 2016 11:40:31   #
Allen Essek
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Anyone with current impressions of or comments on any of the following: Promaster, Nissin, Yongnuo, or others?

Looking for a Speedlight for my D7100. Presently have an older Sunpak 555, however I am looking for something that will work automatically with the camera with a zoom lens (once I get one of those). Right now, with a prime, the auto functions are not an issue, but when I add a zoom, they will be.

My local camera shop sells Promaster. Prices are halfway between Nikon and Yongnuo. The shop used to sell Nissin, but no longer do. I put my hands on a Promaster this afternoon, and they feel solidly built.

I don’t really care about off-camera flash or wireless capabilities. What I’m looking for is something that will do what I can do with my Sunpak, but with less “futzing”. Something similar in GN to the Sunpak, without having to buy the Nikon. Basically, I need something that will light something up that’s up to 150’ away, maybe more.

Any recommendations or comments, positive or negative. Do any of you use these “3rd party” flashes and, if so, are you happy with your choice or do you wish you’d gone with the “name” brand?
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The very best, and wisest purchase, that you could make, is the Yongnuo Professional Flash Speedlight; the Yongnuo YN-568EX, Wireless, TTL, Flash Speedlight, for Nikon camera's. Sold on Amazon.com, for $101.00. It is a real steal. Many thousands of photographer's have selected and use this flash, and love it, in every way! You can find much information and recommendation's about it, on the Great, Professional Photographer, and Instructor, Tony Northrup's, Website, (Google Him,) And also, in his great, "Buyer's Guide," as well. This flash, would be your best bet, by far, bar no other; short of a full priced, Nikon Speedlite.
*IT IS MOST, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED OVER ALL OTHER FLASH UNITS

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Mar 28, 2016 12:18:43   #
Allen Essek
 
kb6kgx wrote:
I know what you’re saying. My trusty Sunpak 555 (handle-mount) was rated at GN 150 (feet), at ASA100. Nowadays, they’re rated in “meters”, so — and I’m no math whiz so I’m not going to do a conversion here — this same flash, if made today, would be a GN 58 (give or take). In other words, if a flash has a GN of “only” 30, it is not necessarily underpowered.

The best recommendations for off-brand flash units are from those who are USING them, since many are not sold in traditional retail outlets. Best Buy will try to sell you the Nikon or Canon ones, my local camera shop, Hooper Camera, sells Promaster and they used to see Nissin. They’ll also sell the name brands, too, but at least they offer an alternative. However, I have not run into a local retail store that sells Yongnuo and others, so I take recommendations like yours very seriously.
I know what you’re saying. My trusty Sunpak 555 (h... (show quote)


When shopping for any ELECTRONIC ITEM, I wouldn't ever limit my selection of the product and model to that which was carried by
"THE LOCAL, CAMERA SHOP!"

Perhaps, go there, and see what product is available, and should they happen to stock, that which you "REALLY" believe that you want to buy, you can go ahead and buy it.

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It is, IN THE SHOPPER'S BEST INTEREST to SHOP, and to make their final purchase, from a very large Mega-Store, which SPECIALIZES in, carrying, EVERY SINGLE Brand, and Model, That Is Currently Available.

In doing this, you will have the opportunity, to consider all of your many options, and to select the product, that will best meet your own personal needs, in the best possible way.

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Keep all of these things in your mind, as you shop for your equipment.

Happy days...

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Mar 28, 2016 12:26:56   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
I use the Yonhnu yn568ex so far it has worked great and does everything I need it to do. Including HSS to1/8000 sec.
Im very happy with it.

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Mar 28, 2016 12:32:36   #
eesileon1
 
I have the Altura brand from Amazon. So far they work well. One is e-TTL and the other strictly manual. Both have S-1 &S-2 functions, and one came with a trigger set. Take a look.

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Mar 28, 2016 12:41:12   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Several years ago I had a D200 and a SB800. Then I got a D3 which didn't have a built-in flash to act as a commander for off-camera flash. So I wanted another speedlight.

At the time the SB900 was getting reports of overheating problems. So I looked for alternatives. The Nissin Di866 looked promising and got good reviews so I got one.

When I tested it out I found that it was almost compatible with the Nikon CLS. As a speedlight on the hotshoe it worked just fine. It worked fairly well as a commander for the SB800 off camera. The modeling light didn't work. No matter, I don't use that much. Using the SB800 as commander and the Di866 off camera worked sporadically but the other way around seemed to work just fine.

I sometimes shoot bursts with flash (on the hotshoe). I set the camera to ISO 1600 (or more) and set the frame rate as fast as possible. The high ISO reduces the energy needed for each flash so I don't dump the c harge in one shot. I use bursts for group shots so if one person blinks, they have generally recovered by the third shot. If there's a late blinker the background doesn't change significantly at the high frame rate so I can paste eyes (or heads) from one shot to another.

So using the SB800 at 1600 in a small room I could get about 10 shots before the speedlight ran out of charge. With the Di866 I could only get 4 shots.

I don't use HSS so I didn't try that.

Next time I had some flash money I got a SB910. No problems with that.

The Nissin works if all I need is a straight speedlight. If I need to use off-camera flash I have to remember which one to use for the commander and which for the slave. So the Nissin is almost compatible with the Nikon CLS.

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Mar 28, 2016 13:30:19   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Bought the Newwer for my wife. It is full iTTL and more powerful than my SB700. Online for about $70.

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Mar 28, 2016 13:34:03   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Just looked it up on the Neewer site. It seems amazing that a flash with a GN of 58 (equivalent to the higher-end units costing 3-4x that much) can be had for just over $50. I’m just a little hesitant going with a brand I’ve never heard of that I haven’t been able to touch and feel in the store first.


So far my wife's continues to work fine. Couple years.

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Mar 28, 2016 14:17:37   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Anyone with current impressions of or comments on any of the following: Promaster, Nissin, Yongnuo, or others?

Looking for a Speedlight for my D7100. Presently have an older Sunpak 555, however I am looking for something that will work automatically with the camera with a zoom lens (once I get one of those). Right now, with a prime, the auto functions are not an issue, but when I add a zoom, they will be.

My local camera shop sells Promaster. Prices are halfway between Nikon and Yongnuo. The shop used to sell Nissin, but no longer do. I put my hands on a Promaster this afternoon, and they feel solidly built.

I don’t really care about off-camera flash or wireless capabilities. What I’m looking for is something that will do what I can do with my Sunpak, but with less “futzing”. Something similar in GN to the Sunpak, without having to buy the Nikon. Basically, I need something that will light something up that’s up to 150’ away, maybe more.

Any recommendations or comments, positive or negative. Do any of you use these “3rd party” flashes and, if so, are you happy with your choice or do you wish you’d gone with the “name” brand?
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That is one useless function you want to shut off right away (auto zoom), but set the zoom ratio the way you want (its like a build-in modifier)!

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Mar 28, 2016 14:20:39   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I have shot over 125 ft with my Canon 600EX-RT mounted on my camera.
It can be done, but also done more easily if the flash can be closer and remote triggered.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Mar 28, 2016 14:20:52   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Thank you for that! I’ll contact him.

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Mar 28, 2016 14:25:15   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
You’ve all been veery helpful. Thank you, all, for your comments and suggestions. I have one final question.

I understand what HSS is, but why would I need a higher speed flash synch? What would I be photographing that would require that? Even at a slower synch speed, wouldn’t the duration of the flash, itself, be enough to stop whatever motion you’re trying to stop?

Unless there’s some other reason, and I don’t know, what is HSS for?

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Mar 28, 2016 14:27:02   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
kb6kgx wrote:
You’ve all been veery helpful. Thank you, all, for your comments and suggestions. I have one final question.

I understand what HSS is, but why would I need a higher speed flash synch? What would I be photographing that would require that? Even at a slower synch speed, wouldn’t the duration of the flash, itself, be enough to stop whatever motion you’re trying to stop?

Unless there’s some other reason, and I don’t know, what is HSS for?


As to HSS, hummingbird wings for one!

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Mar 28, 2016 14:29:00   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Anyone with current impressions of or comments on any of the following: Promaster, Nissin, Yongnuo, or others?

Looking for a Speedlight for my D7100. Presently have an older Sunpak 555, however I am looking for something that will work automatically with the camera with a zoom lens (once I get one of those). Right now, with a prime, the auto functions are not an issue, but when I add a zoom, they will be.

My local camera shop sells Promaster. Prices are halfway between Nikon and Yongnuo. The shop used to sell Nissin, but no longer do. I put my hands on a Promaster this afternoon, and they feel solidly built.

I don’t really care about off-camera flash or wireless capabilities. What I’m looking for is something that will do what I can do with my Sunpak, but with less “futzing”. Something similar in GN to the Sunpak, without having to buy the Nikon. Basically, I need something that will light something up that’s up to 150’ away, maybe more.

Any recommendations or comments, positive or negative. Do any of you use these “3rd party” flashes and, if so, are you happy with your choice or do you wish you’d gone with the “name” brand?
Anyone with current impressions of or comments on ... (show quote)


I have heard of the ones you mentioned but I don't own any of them. I do own a "Vivitar DF-583" and also an "Altura Pro AP-N1001". I use them both with my Nikon D7100 and they do a great job. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend either of them.

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Mar 28, 2016 14:51:15   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
kb6kgx wrote:
You’ve all been veery helpful. Thank you, all, for your comments and suggestions. I have one final question.

I understand what HSS is, but why would I need a higher speed flash synch? What would I be photographing that would require that? Even at a slower synch speed, wouldn’t the duration of the flash, itself, be enough to stop whatever motion you’re trying to stop?

Unless there’s some other reason, and I don’t know, what is HSS for?


To enable a dark background.

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Mar 28, 2016 14:53:48   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Anyone with current impressions of or comments on any of the following: Promaster, Nissin, Yongnuo, or others?

Looking for a Speedlight for my D7100. Presently have an older Sunpak 555, however I am looking for something that will work automatically with the camera with a zoom lens (once I get one of those). Right now, with a prime, the auto functions are not an issue, but when I add a zoom, they will be.

My local camera shop sells Promaster. Prices are halfway between Nikon and Yongnuo. The shop used to sell Nissin, but no longer do. I put my hands on a Promaster this afternoon, and they feel solidly built.

I don’t really care about off-camera flash or wireless capabilities. What I’m looking for is something that will do what I can do with my Sunpak, but with less “futzing”. Something similar in GN to the Sunpak, without having to buy the Nikon. Basically, I need something that will light something up that’s up to 150’ away, maybe more.

Any recommendations or comments, positive or negative. Do any of you use these “3rd party” flashes and, if so, are you happy with your choice or do you wish you’d gone with the “name” brand?
Anyone with current impressions of or comments on ... (show quote)


I have several Yongnuo for my portable studio lighting. They work well, are reliable. I don't have any with TTL as I do have an SB800 for that (Though I never use it directly on camera; usually on a bracket.

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