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Mar 23, 2016 20:50:27   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Since the OP has Nikon why steer him away from them, Nikon puts out a mirrorless camera that is great and tack sharp. Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5n95f-cc0g and I can attest to it as I own this camera and lens.


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Mar 24, 2016 11:04:48   #
wotsmith Loc: Nashville TN
 
jcboy3 wrote:
While one might not be happy shooting BIF with mirror less, it would not be due to frame rate. My E-M1 will shoot at 10fps mechanical shutter and 11fps electronic shutter. But it will fill the buffer quickly, and I find it impossible to track when shooting at that rate due to viewfinder blackout. The buffer size can be mitigated by shooting JPG or 12-bit RAW. The viewfinder blackout can be mitigated by using a red dot sight (and Olympus released a very nice one recently; I like it a lot more than my other red dot sight for portability and ease of adjustment).

However, focus is much slower. If you pre-focus, and use a very steady tripod and smooth gimbal, then you can get some good shots.

The problem until now has been the lenses; but with the Olympus 300mm f4 and Panasonic 100-400, this should be improved. Although I think the Panasonic 100-400 is a tad too slow.
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I am amazed at how much trouble you are going through to try to convince me that the mirrorless are as good for BIF. "Frame rate is 10fps" Oh BTW you can't use the viewfinder when doing that! Are you kidding me? so you use a gun sight? I really don't care what you use to take photographs, and Yes I have spent a fortune (that many don't have available in their budgets) to achieve success in bird photography. If you have budgetary restraints then do the best you can with what you can afford.

I have one more suggestion. I plan on going back to Bosque del Apache in NM again in early December, which is a fab place for BIF. Plan to meet me there and let's shoot together. I know where to stay and where to shoot and at what time of day. Maybe you can show me that I am wrong and you get great photos; I'll guarantee that I'll get hundreds of great shots. Maybe we'll both learn something. BTW, no charge for showing you around, and maybe some of the other hoggers would like to join us, and learn the ropes at a really neat place.
That way we get rid of all the opinions that have been shared and see some results. If you are interested in this send me a PM and we'll figure out dates, etc.

Or you can join Doug Brown for his Bosque workshop for about $800 (worth it for sure) or join Art Morris's workshop for a lot more. Bill

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