The government makes all kinds of mandates that we all have to live up to.

We went to war in Iraq; my tax money helped pay for that, and I don't approve. Too bad.

George Bush flew each and every week-end to Texas in an airplane I had to support. I didn't like it. Too bad for me.

If your government calls and tells you You're going to Iraq to fight, you go. You don't approve. You don't disapprove. You go. Period.

Now you want to take your taxes back. It don't happen.

If you got killed in Iraq, you want to come back. Doesn't happen, does it?

Still, it's more likely than you're getting your taxes back.

Time to grow up, good buddy.

Think of it this way Tom. Federal Taxes are collected to Provide for the services of running a Nation. Tax Rates are adjusted to insure enough capital to provide those services. Keeping that in mind, As those that pay no taxes make not contribution to the cash pile, those that do have to pay a higher rate in order to meet the demand. The Taxpayer is already paying infinetly more for the sevices provided, than the nonpayer, who pays ZERO. When the cash pile is dipped into to pay for entitlements, more tax money is required and it comes from payers.

One could logically conclude that all that extra tax collected from payer is really his and Uncle Sam is playing Robin Hood with it.

No, one could not, respectfully.

Some people do not pay taxes as they fall below a specific line. It is a known that they will not pay taxes. Their lack of contribution is known from the beginning. This is not a deficit that someone has to make up.

But that is beside the point.

When you have a bill to pay, taxes or car payment or rent or mortgage, you lose ownership of the money when you give it to a payee. It is no longer your money. You no longer own it, and tomorrow you still won't own it.

If the payee spends it in a strip bar, and you loathe strip bars and all that they stand for, you can't take the money back, and you can't still claim that it is your money.

What the payee uses the money for differs from what you might have used it for, and morally you may not approve what he used for, but it's HIS MONEY he's spending, not yours.

You owned the money once, but you No Longer Own It. It is gone the moment it leaves your hand.

If you want proof, imagine you got your hands on the tax money you paid, and you took it back. What do you think would happen? How would that differ from someone who paid no taxes at all, who also took that same money?

Theft, in either case.

(There is no hostility in this post, just clarification.)

Twardlow,

I, too, shall butt in......Not wanting taxpayer money to PAY for birth control, and NOT wanting to force private businesses to pay for birth control, is not by itself anti-birth control.

By the way, why not treat viagra the same way as birth control for insurance purposes? For a different reason, of course, since there is no law against using taxpayer money for viagra and I am not aware of any religious opposition to viagra----- but why pay for it via insurance, thus driving costs up?

Birth control is birth control. Pills are convenient. Condoms are clumsy. And abstinence is the only method with a 100% effectiveness.

Plus, you clearly misunderstand me. I'm not denying anyone the "right" to purchase birth control. I'm saying that I don't want my tax dollars to pay for it. Now as to one of your other "trains of thought", this is a gov't of the people, for the people, and by the people. And it's been set up so that we all have a say. If you don't like what I say, well that's too damned bad!

This young lady gets it.



"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living"

This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It's her future she’s worried about and this is how she feels about the social welfare that she’s being forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her opinion.


Nov 18, 2011

Put me in charge . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50kg bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Healthcare. The first thing I'd do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get tats and piercings, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks?
You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules.. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem," consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job

accountability:::::::::::::::::::: eh, our society gives trophys for participation, blames our parents, or society for our full jails, or the devel.. "into the valley of death"

my mortgage has been paid for 20 years, but now the deadbeats get relief if they cannot make their payments..

my taxes are paid to date, but if you owe more than (??) get a lawyer and get relief...

Med bills are a killer, but the insurance is evaporating, fortunately I have the $$ saved to take care of it.

I feel like a goddamn idiot to have been responciable. The deadbeats ride free on my goddamn dime!!!!!!!