kingtrac

Hi all, I have a Canon EOS 7D that needs repair and I don't want to rely on my Canon EOS 30D. I'm trying to determine what new Canon Body I want to buy. I want the next one to be my first pro body. The 7D seems to have a major problem with noise in low light even when I don't bump the ISO up very high (1/400 - 1/600 sec). The next camera needs to be great in low light (low noise, inside arena) and have a high number of frames per second. I am thinking hard about the EOS 5D Mark III and entertaining the idea of the EOS-1Dx Mark II but I'm open to other models. What do you think is the best Canon camera for low light situations with high FPS? :?:

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

The 1Dx is king of the pile top of the heap ! - as for me, I went with the Sony A77II........

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

The 5D III is older technology and will soon be replaced. The up side of that is, you can get a new one for a reasonable price. Since you currently have 2 EOS bodies, I'll assume you have a few lenses and probably not interested in other than EOS. Don't know what lenses you have but since both your bodies are crop sensor, if you have acquired EF-S lenses, they won't mount to a full frame body.

If you're considering the 1DX II then obviously money isn't a factor. The body that probably fits what you're looking for, high frames per second, shooting indoors, arena lighting, other than the flagship 1DX II is the 7D II. Not full frame but then not all pro's shoot strictly full frame.

If you can afford the 1DX II and EF-S lenses aren't an issue, that's what I'd get otherwise check out the 7D II.

If money and brand not an issue, Nixon just came out with 2 new feature packed bodies, a crop and a full frame that are both excellent cameras.

If you want mind boggling detail and can live with 5 frames per second, the 5DS & 5DSr are very capable cameras but they're not really something you'd shoot sports and action with.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

I keep repeating this but I doubt anyone listens!! The best low light Canon camera made is the 600 EX ll!!! :lol:
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kingtrac

Cost actually is a factor. I wrote the 1 Dx Mark II before checking the price. It is above my price range. The 5DII is closer to my price range. My lenses are all EF so no problem there. I like the crop factor but have been told by someone in a professional group that full frames have lower noise. Besides using the camera in an indoor arena (dust, low light) I will be using it for outdoor, and studio horse and dog photos.

kingtrac

rmorrison, I will check out the 7D2. Thanks

kingtrac

Got it sharp shooter, some of these horses are green to flash. I don't want to cause anyone to get hurt.

kingtrac

rmorrison, one problem I am having is that my hands are small. That makes back button focus difficult to achieve for very long without contorting my hand with the 7D. I use back button focus almost exclusively. Is the body of the 7D2 the same as that of the 7D? Maybe I just need to learn how to change to and from bbf fast.

kingtrac

rmorrison, what are your thoughts on the 1D Mark IV?

chaman

Im considering the 1DX MarkII, but I am also waiting on what the 5dIII replacement brings to the table.

Anandnra Loc: Tennessee

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Anandnra Loc: Tennessee

Quit pulling his leg Sharpie ... :roll:

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

If you know the 7D than transition to the 7DII would be fairly easy compared to going to some others.

Currently the Canon low light champ that I am familiar with is the 6D, but it only does 4.5 fps and has a rudimentary AF system. I have gotten good BIF with it, once I learned its limits and I used many of the old fashioned film days tricks.
The 5DIII is almost as good in low light, higher fps and much better AF.

If you are shooting a lot of action, sports, moving subjects the 7DII is the choice. For IQ and low light a FF is best.

You might look at the new 80D. It doesn't have the build of the 7DII or 5DIII but has a good AF, 24mp, same ISO range as the 7DII. A bit smaller and lighter, a few hundred cheaper. 7 fps compared to the 7DII 10 fps and the 5DIII 6 fps.

That said, if action is the main thing the 7DII wins, if IQ is more important but action is still important than the 5DIII is it. A compromise between those two is the 80D, based on specs, it isn't being delivered yet.

Anandnra Loc: Tennessee

The 6D is a FF but the frame rate is not that great but probably sufficient for most purposes as long as you're not shooting very fast action - has excellent ISO capability.

The 7D2 is very similar to your 7D with an excellent FPS and is much better in terms of low noise - great body for action.

The 5D3 is your best bet at this time, best of both worlds good FPS, low noise, FF and a really nice camera for most anything you'd want.

I too went from the 7D to the 7D2 and welcomed the upgrade. I have the 5D3 also and is my go to body unless I am looking for more reach.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Yes, I realize that flash can't be used all the time.
If your doing a lot of "under the lights" type of stuff, you should bro ably be looking at the 7ll simply because it's made for action and is pretty decent in low light but has the "flickering light" mode which can help a lot if you shoot flickering light. NO camera is going to be great in low light. I've shot extensively with a 1Dx and it's no miracle worker, just a very good camera.
You'd be better of with a 7ll and a small assortment of 2.0
And faster primes. Set up where you need to be with the lens and you get what you get from there!! Everybody wants to use a slow 2.8 zoom and then make the camera body work miracles. That can either double you speed or cut your ISO in half, however you want to look at it. Either way, that will do more for noise or blurry shots than any camera body can do.
And those bodies have been as low as a $1000 for a refurb!!! Good luck, it's a tough decision.
For any action at all, do NOT look at a 5ll at all. I shot action with one for 5 years and it was a real struggle!!
Fast glass is where it's at!!!! ;-)
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