DSLR image quality vs mirrorless cameras (Page 2): You first ask if you are wrong, now it's not a matter of being wrong?? Did you have anything in mind when first posting?

Leitz Loc: Solms

barham wrote:

They were taken JPG. Its not really a matter of being "wrong" as I am merely making an observation based on the results of the pictures and asking for information.
I will retake the scene with all the cameras and post them so that folks can comment.

You first ask if you are wrong, now it's not a matter of being wrong?? Did you have anything in mind when first posting?

MtnMan Loc: ID

barham wrote:

I have a Nikon D5300 and use the 35mm f1.8 lense; I also have a Fuji XE1 with 27mm f2.8 lense and Olympus EM10 with Lumix 20mm f1.7 lense. I have tested these cameras and lenses against each other, and, although I like each, it clearly appears to me that the enlarged versions of each photo taken with the same subject matter at the same or similar settings show the Nikon to have substantially more detail and clearer.
Am I wrong?
Thanks,
David

It is because of the sensor size. I had a Sony NEX7 which took pictures almost as good as my D5300. It also has a 24MP APS-C sensor.

I can do a little better with the Nikon in some situations because I have better lenses for it.

Mr PC Loc: Austin, TX

SharpShooter wrote:

That's because the Nikon is a REAL camera! What would you expect?!?! :lol:
SS

Did anyone else notice that SS actually admitted that a Nikon is a real camera? This is great progress...

BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL

barham wrote:

I have a Nikon D5300 and use the 35mm f1.8 lense; I also have a Fuji XE1 with 27mm f2.8 lense and Olympus EM10 with Lumix 20mm f1.7 lense. I have tested these cameras and lenses against each other, and, although I like each, it clearly appears to me that the enlarged versions of each photo taken with the same subject matter at the same or similar settings show the Nikon to have substantially more detail and clearer.
Am I wrong?
Thanks,
David

This is just food for thought, not making any judgments here:

http://ilovehatephoto.com/2015/01/12/10-reasons-to-switch-from-a-dslr-to-a-mirrorless-system-with-examples-nikon-to-sony/

peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA

jerryc41 wrote:

I've noticed the same thing with my D750 and Sony RX100 IV. Maybe bigger really is better.

Size matters ! :)

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

BuckeyeBilly wrote:

This is just food for thought, not making any judgments here:

http://ilovehatephoto.com/2015/01/12/10-reasons-to-switch-from-a-dslr-to-a-mirrorless-system-with-examples-nikon-to-sony/

Reads like an ad for Sony. There are many unique reasons to buy other brands, as well.

One compelling reason NOT to buy a full frame mirrorless is the size and weight of the lenses.

Kuzano

Yes!

Kuzano

peterg wrote:

Size matters ! :)

Alas, some would say, No! It's how you use it!

But me... much as I hate to say it, I envy BIG!!!. It's a very personal problem for many.

Kuzano

MtnMan wrote:

It is because of the sensor size. I had a Sony NEX7 which took pictures almost as good as my D5300. It also has a 24MP APS-C sensor.

I can do a little better with the Nikon in some situations because I have better lenses for it.

Don't be surprised if it's the same sensor!!!

:shock:

Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA

barham wrote:

I have a Nikon D5300 and use the 35mm f1.8 lense; I also have a Fuji XE1 with 27mm f2.8 lense and Olympus EM10 with Lumix 20mm f1.7 lense. I have tested these cameras and lenses against each other, and, although I like each, it clearly appears to me that the enlarged versions of each photo taken with the same subject matter at the same or similar settings show the Nikon to have substantially more detail and clearer.
Am I wrong?
Thanks,
David

Just not my experience. I took my first a6000 on a cruise around the Mediterranean. Came back with many images which I would say are as good as I would have gotten from my Nikons. That a6000 was an early copy. I sold it on my return. However I have decided to abandon my Nikons and move to the lighter MILCs. I bought an xe-1 but didn't really test it against the Nikons. However I sold it in favor of purchasing a new Sony a6000, destined to be my second body. And planning to buy an a6300 after I give them a few months to shake out any bugs.

Much as I have loved my Nikons over many years, I think the mirrorless have come into their own. I wish Nikon or Canon had made a decent mirrorless, but both use tiny sensors and neither has an EVF. I think my a6000 makes images every bit as good as my Nikons.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

barham wrote:

I have a Nikon D5300 and use the 35mm f1.8 lense; I also have a Fuji XE1 with 27mm f2.8 lense and Olympus EM10 with Lumix 20mm f1.7 lense. I have tested these cameras and lenses against each other, and, although I like each, it clearly appears to me that the enlarged versions of each photo taken with the same subject matter at the same or similar settings show the Nikon to have substantially more detail and clearer.
Am I wrong?
Thanks,
David

How are you going to differentiate between the effect of the body and the effect of the lens? Recently I mounted on my relatively modern Pentax K-30 a 50mm f/1.7 KA-mount lens that was originally kitted with the Pentax Super Program SLR that I bought in 1983. I was surprised that the images were sharper than the ones I've been getting from the modern auto-focus zoom lenses I've been using with that camera. Yes, I know that prime lenses are supposed to be sharper than zoom lenses, but I had expected auto-focus to work better than manual-focus, modern computer-aided design methods to work better than older slide-rule design methods, and modern materials / coatings to work better than older materials / coatings. Your three comparisons have so many differences: manufacturers/designers, sensor sizes, "effective" focal lengths, f-stops, etc, etc, that it is really hard to know what your results show.

steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida

http://improvephotography.com/33493/ive-had-it-goodbye-nikon-hello-fuji/

http://improvephotography.com/34020/best-mirrorless-cameras-under-1000-dollars/

rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

The Nikkor 35mm f1.8 lens is hard to beat.