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Feb 13, 2016 22:09:32   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Twardlow wrote:
Nazis were extreme right wing, NOT leftists!

Poster has it wrong.


Again, different dictionary. You are thinking about the dictionary of Standard Written English. Right wingers have their own dictionary and make up their own definitions.

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Feb 13, 2016 22:18:43   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
This might help:

http://i1.wp.com/www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/The-Complete-Idiots-Guide-To-Speaking-Republican-2.png?w=454

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Feb 14, 2016 12:09:41   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Twardlow wrote:
Nazis were extreme right wing, NOT leftists!

Poster has it wrong.

Further more NO ONE is advocating Socialism for this country.

It jus' ain't happening!


You need to get caught up on current events, namely the elections that are happening right now.
There is a guy named Bernie Sanders who is publicly running for president who is a lifelong socialist.
I don't know how you could have missed this.

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Feb 14, 2016 16:51:00   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
yhtomit wrote:
You need to get caught up on current events, namely the elections that are happening right now.
There is a guy named Bernie Sanders who is publicly running for president who is a lifelong socialist.
I don't know how you could have missed this.


Missed it? What you might not be considering is that Sanders is so popular BECAUSE he is a lifelong socialist.

"Millennials have a higher opinion of socialism than of capitalism"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/02/05/millennials-have-a-higher-opinion-of-socialism-than-of-capitalism/

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Feb 14, 2016 23:05:02   #
WYp8riot Loc: Wyoming
 
Twardlow wrote:
Nazis were extreme right wing, NOT leftists!

Poster has it wrong.

Further more NO ONE is advocating Socialism for this country.

It jus' ain't happening!




It depends on which political spectrum you subscribe to, but this video has some interesting facts and suggests That all "isms" that support moves toward total government are left wing...and those who believe in NO government are right wing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw

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Feb 14, 2016 23:10:48   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
boberic wrote:
When this kid said the Nazism is an extreme form of conservatism I turned it off. because this idiot doesn't know what he is talking about. Nazi means National Socialist. It is an extreme form of leftist policies, total government control. The ultimate form of rightist policies is chaos- No government regulations at all. Democratic socialism is a contradiction of terms--or limited government control, which is only a step toward total government control. There has never been a "partial socialist government- it always leads to more govarnment control. Monarchy is but another form of ultra leftist policy Dictitorial control A king is after all is a dictator.
When this kid said the Nazism is an extreme form o... (show quote)

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Feb 14, 2016 23:27:03   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
boberic wrote:
When this kid said the Nazism is an extreme form of conservatism I turned it off. because this idiot doesn't know what he is talking about. Nazi means National Socialist. It is an extreme form of leftist policies, total government control. The ultimate form of rightist policies is chaos- No government regulations at all. Democratic socialism is a contradiction of terms--or limited government control, which is only a step toward total government control. There has never been a "partial socialist government- it always leads to more govarnment control. Monarchy is but another form of ultra leftist policy Dictitorial control A king is after all is a dictator.
When this kid said the Nazism is an extreme form o... (show quote)


I'm sorry, but you're determined to be wrong. Don't be fooled because of the sword Socialist in NAZI. You Got It Wrong.

The Nazis were indeed an extreme right-wing organization. They hated Russia because it was socialistic or communistic in name (although a dictatorship in reality).

Nature is extreme chaos. Man seeks to impose order upon it, in more than one way. There may be an exaggeration of lefties which leads to total society-over-society control. There is also an extreme exaggeration of the right which is a tyrant, that is dictator-over-society control. We see it every day in every way.

(Interesting that communism, total control of society over society, leads almost invariably (or always invariably) to dictatorship, or one man in total control over society.)

Government, like capitalism, need regulation to keep to the middle ground of the most freedom for the most people.

Either extreme leads to too much control.

And finally, remember, one of the basics of mankind, true in all times and all places--everywhere--All Men Seek All Power--ALWAYS!

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Feb 14, 2016 23:36:53   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
WYp8riot wrote:
Indeed, it was founded with intent to be a Republic!

The founders had plenty to say about their understandings of the failures of Democracy.

People can call it a democratic republic and other labels but the modern idea that our constitution was founded to be a Democracy is nothing more than a myth.

The word Democracy is found no where in the Constitution and the documents do declare that every State is guaranteed a "REPUBLICAN" form of government. That is Article 4 Section 4 I believe. Note: Republican form of government does not equate "republican party" nor do I believe the party has helped preserve liberty much more than the democrat party. To believe so would be ignoring multiple facts. Do we still have a Republican form of government....? Hardly in practice.
Indeed, it was founded with intent to be a Republi... (show quote)


If you look into it (in a dictionary) there is no difference between democracy and republic; check it out.

Do we have a Republican form of government? No, we do not. We have an ologarchy, or plutocracy--government of the few or government of the rich.

Since 'the few' are also rich, or 'the rich,' I guess you can call it either one.

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Feb 15, 2016 00:00:14   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Twardlow wrote:
If you look into it (in a dictionary) there is no difference between democracy and republic; check it out.

Do we have a Republican form of government? No, we do not. We have an ologarchy, or plutocracy--government of the few or government of the rich.

Since 'the few' are also rich, or 'the rich,' I guess you can call it either one.


"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

We have been a republic from our beginnings. We are still a republic. The few who are rich have a right to their riches. We do not have the right to take from those who have worked and earn their wealth or take from those who's wealth was passed on to them. To take away the wealth of others would make us all poor. If we the people are poor, so will the government be poor as we, thus the collapse of a nation.

You can not distribute another man's wealth. You say greed made the man's wealth. Isn't it greed that you want to take his wealth from him. It can only be through one man's wealth, through the jobs that he produces that others can share in his wealth.

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Feb 15, 2016 06:19:55   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bangee5 wrote:
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

We have been a republic from our beginnings. We are still a republic. The few who are rich have a right to their riches. We do not have the right to take from those who have worked and earn their wealth or take from those who's wealth was passed on to them. To take away the wealth of others would make us all poor. If we the people are poor, so will the government be poor as we, thus the collapse of a nation.

You can not distribute another man's wealth. You say greed made the man's wealth. Isn't it greed that you want to take his wealth from him. It can only be through one man's wealth, through the jobs that he produces that others can share in his wealth.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the Unite... (show quote)


I don't know much history of the pledge but I do know that "one nation under God" is a fairly new addition and should be taken back out. If it had been there from the beginning I might be OK with it but it was put in there to pander.

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Feb 15, 2016 07:15:12   #
EdM Loc: FN30JS
 
boberic wrote:
Nazi means National Socialist. It is an extreme form of leftist policies, total government control. A king is after all is a dictator.


Socialism is a form of government which gets its power from me by promising to give me your money.. It has always (historically) morphed into communism ("lenin") and a dictatorship... Not to worry, the oncoming threat of muslim extremeism is beyond the ability of our republic to handle and only our coming socialist dictatorship will be capable of defeating it... in the cards, so seys my xtal ball (sorry).. I predict that our future dictatorship will make what old Adolph did to the chews seem like kindergarten compared to what will happen to the muslims.. without a hitler style government, well, baby,, you had best learn to live under Shea law... You realise, of coarse, that old Adolph had to go to France at first, then eastern europe to steal the funds and manpower to sustain his socialism... Who are we going to steal it from??

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Feb 15, 2016 08:38:32   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
EdM wrote:
Socialism is a form of government which gets its power from me by promising to give me your money.. It has always (historically) morphed into communism ("lenin") and a dictatorship... Not to worry, the oncoming threat of muslim extremeism is beyond the ability of our republic to handle and only our coming socialist dictatorship will be capable of defeating it... in the cards, so seys my xtal ball (sorry).. I predict that our future dictatorship will make what old Adolph did to the chews seem like kindergarten compared to what will happen to the muslims.. without a hitler style government, well, baby,, you had best learn to live under Shea law... You realise, of coarse, that old Adolph had to go to France at first, then eastern europe to steal the funds and manpower to sustain his socialism... Who are we going to steal it from??
Socialism is a form of government which gets its p... (show quote)


Hitler's use of the word socialism was a con. He had complete disdain for socialism. If you Google it you will find more than you care to read.

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Feb 15, 2016 08:53:42   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
thom w wrote:
Hitler's use of the word socialism was a con. He had complete disdain for socialism. If you Google it you will find more than you care to read.


Hitler also had a distain for Christianity but the left insist that Hitler was a Christian. Hitler's government was a form of socialism that conflicted with the socialism of Stalin. Stalin went full blown Communism.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

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Feb 15, 2016 09:10:02   #
EdM Loc: FN30JS
 
thom w wrote:
Hitler's use of the word socialism was a con. He had complete disdain for socialism. If you Google it you will find more than you care to read.


could be.... but he sure went past it to absolute control tho didn't he?

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Feb 15, 2016 11:04:49   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Keenan wrote:
Missed it? What you might not be considering is that Sanders is so popular BECAUSE he is a lifelong socialist.

"Millennials have a higher opinion of socialism than of capitalism"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/02/05/millennials-have-a-higher-opinion-of-socialism-than-of-capitalism/


Thanks for pointing out how seriously misguided as Americans you democrats are.
Responsible Americans know that feeding leeches only produces more leeches.
Thanks again.

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