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Feb 3, 2016 09:56:20   #
Lazy J Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Hmm - You might need to put it into Photoshop or another image editing program to do it. In photoshop, I'd just go into the Image Size dialog and not constrain the image size.


Hmm is right! LR also has the "Do not constrain" checkbox within the cropping tool but I was unsure what this did. I will have to play around with that and see what it does.

Thx Steve. Still waiting on your post-processing tutorial that I recommended you make about a year ago to show up on your website or YouTube, but have not seen it yet!?!?

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Feb 3, 2016 10:00:56   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Lazy J wrote:
Hmm is right! LR also has the "Do not constrain" checkbox within the cropping tool but I was unsure what this did. I will have to play around with that and see what it does.

Thx Steve. Still waiting on your post-processing tutorial that I recommended you make about a year ago to show up on your website or YouTube, but have not seen it yet!?!?


Not sure if that's what you're looking for. That option will let you "free crop" the image, but won't redo the actual aspect ratio to something different with the crop you actually want.

Yeah, that post processing thing is more likely a book than just a short tutorial - there's a LOT to it! I'll get to it eventually, I'm hip deep in writing a landscape book right now - although there will be a few photoshop techniques in there.

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Feb 3, 2016 10:10:20   #
Lazy J Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Yeah, that post processing thing is more likely a book than just a short tutorial - there's a LOT to it!


Steve, in that case, at the risk of hijacking my own post topic, can you answer one question for me?

I know photos are mostly the result of the photographer's knowledge and techniques, which yours are obviously top notch, but your photos are so amazingly crisp, how do you sharpen your photos? While not overly effecient with Photoshop at this time, I do know there are several different ways to sharpen photos. Which is your option of choice? Thx!

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Feb 3, 2016 10:38:24   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Lazy J wrote:
Steve, in that case, at the risk of hijacking my own post topic, can you answer one question for me?

I know photos are mostly the result of the photographer's knowledge and techniques, which yours are obviously top notch, but your photos are so amazingly crisp, how do you sharpen your photos? While not overly effecient with Photoshop at this time, I do know there are several different ways to sharpen photos. Which is your option of choice? Thx!


This one:

http://youtu.be/OIxgSZV7lPY

Plus, there's a link in the description on that page for a set of actions that do everything you see in the video. Enjoy :)

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Feb 3, 2016 11:06:49   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Lazy J wrote:
Rongnongno, can you elaborate how you would go about this? When you are using an automated function like LR or Photomatix photo merge you have little control over the final product/aspect ratio. I would love to know so I can be better prepared in the future. Thx!

I do not use LR.

In PS CC this will be under size BUT that would distort the image so a bad solution.

Otherwise as many have stated: bite the bullet and either custom print, accept 'black bands'.

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Feb 3, 2016 12:34:02   #
BullMoose Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
Steve Perry wrote:
LOL I know I can't plan them that well - I always assume I'm going to make a custom print when it's all said and done :)


Yea, I've seen your work. Your'e just lucky with no planning whatsoever.

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Feb 3, 2016 13:33:14   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
BullMoose wrote:
Yea, I've seen your work. Your'e just lucky with no planning whatsoever.


Don't get me wrong, I DO plan a lot of stuff - I just can't plan out taking a multi-shot pano with a specific ratio. I can only plan on the shot I'm hoping for :)

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Feb 3, 2016 14:08:51   #
BullMoose Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I DO plan a lot of stuff - I just can't plan out taking a multi-shot pano with a specific ratio. I can only plan on the shot I'm hoping for :)


I first noticed your work when I was searching for some images of the St. Joe lighthouse (I live about a half-mile from it). Your write-up on how you waited for that little cloud to move into just the right spot proved you plan ahead and visualize.

That's what I was getting at when I commented on it's all luck. NOT.

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Feb 4, 2016 07:43:12   #
twowindsbear
 
Lazy J wrote:
Thank you BullMouse, but my problem is that "big one" is not like any other image.

I need to somehow fit a 3:1 aspect ratio into a 2.68:1 aspect ratio as I am just not willing to lose that much of the photo capture. Completely ruins the pan effect.

For information purposes, my pan is the result of stitching four landscape photos, if that makes any difference.

Still need to hear from that UHH printing guru. Thx!


Maybe let your 2.68:1 image 'float' on the 3:1 canvas?

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Feb 4, 2016 07:58:48   #
bcmink Loc: Monona, WI
 
Don't know if this new feature (Boundary Warp) addresses the issue that confounds you, but check it out.

Introducing Boundary Warp

Stitched panoramas often have non-rectangular boundaries. There are several ways to handle irregular boundaries. The most common approach is to apply a rectangular crop. This is straightforward, but important image details near the boundary may be lost due to cropping. Another approach is to use Content Aware Fill (in Photoshop) to fill in the transparent areas outside the boundary. This can be effective, but may require multiple attempts to obtain a satisfying (smooth, artifact-free) result. It can also be expensive and requires rendering out the panorama to an output-referred(non-raw) format. Boundary Warp is a feature that provides another approach to handling the irregular boundary of panoramas. The feature analyzes the boundary and warps the image so that its edges fit a rectangular frame.

http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2016/01/adobe-camera-raw-9-4-and-lightroom-6-4-are-now-available-with-boundary-warp.html

Lazy J wrote:
First time attempting to print a canvas pano and cannot seem to get my aspect ratio straight out of Lightroom CC (i.e., Merge > Panoramic) to match the aspect ratio of the canvas I am attempting to print (16" by 48" or 3:1) without cutting off about one-third of the photo. Can someone offer some assistance?

I have attempted exporting (RAW to JPEG) by photo dimensions (i.e., 16 X 48), pixel size (i.e., 2850 X 7650), etc. Cannot seem to get a handle on it?

So, how do I get my pano shot to match the 3:1 aspect ratio without lopping off the photo loosing the composition effect of a pano? Is this a crop or a zoom issue?

Probably a simple fix (I hope) but one I have never encountered before so need an assist.

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
First time attempting to print a canvas pano and c... (show quote)

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Feb 4, 2016 08:54:54   #
dougwebber Loc: Prospect NS
 
I agree

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Feb 4, 2016 08:59:23   #
dougwebber Loc: Prospect NS
 
I agree with Steve, custom canvas is the answer or you may have some distortion or you need to crop. If you have trouble getting a custom canvas you can contact me, I do them daily and can help you out. here is a pic of a few of mine



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Feb 4, 2016 09:01:41   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
You are lamenting the fact that it is difficult to fit a square peg into a round hole.

You are cropping an image... one direction or the other. YOU can't stretch or pull it, because your trees will look 100' tall or your kid will be three feet wide- this is not an option. The only way to do this is to stitch the photo at full resolution, find a pleasing crop of photo, figure out width to height ratio that you also find pleasing and one that your irresolution will t reproduce well... and buy that size canvas & frame and print to it.

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Feb 4, 2016 09:11:24   #
dougwebber Loc: Prospect NS
 
I agree with Steve. If you simply re-size you with have some distortion, I haven't seen the image so I can say how much distortion, it may be minimal ? Another option is to crop some. and the best option would be to have a custom Canvas printed. unless you are trying to fit into an exact size maybe the custom option is best. If you still need help with this or printing the canvas, I print and frame canvas daily and could help you out, just contact me directly. Here is a pic of a few of mine



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Feb 4, 2016 11:09:23   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
Well--after first considering "does it have to be that shape?"--what I do is create more picture to make it happen-- generally I open the image "as it is" and check the dimensions and say "which will have to be how much bigger to give me what I want?"--then I create a canvas that size and get to making more picture to fill the new shape--generally tops and bottoms are the easier-- but shooting 4x6 and having to go 8x10 means creating sides--can't think of a time it hasn't worked
Stan

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