Why do people who talk with God disagree on what he wants? (Page 4): Arguments about Scripture interpretations, have been going on for millennia. Much of it comes from what you want...

steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA

Yooper 2 wrote:

I believe the OP asked for personal beliefs about ... (show quote)

Arguments about Scripture interpretations, have been going on for millennia. Much of it comes from what you want the scriptures to say, personally I much prefer to let scripture interpret scripture. This is called Hermeneutics, and is preferable to other methods, that leave you with a choice of meanings. This leads to differing interpretations, and Bible versions. Then you are left trying to unscrew the inscrutable, That never produces good results. :)

steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA

God no longer directly speaks to men, Jesus was King, Priest, and Prophet. His massage was the last from God directly to man. That was I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Salvation comes through no other. No better (so called) translation, is going to get you any closer to God. No way of scripture interpretation is going to give you understanding, only the Holy Spirit does that.

God communicates with us in different ways, sometime through his word, the Bible. Sometime through other Christians, and sometime through circumstances. That without the Holy Spirit, none would understand. So thats about it. :)

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

steve40 wrote:

God no longer directly speaks to men, Jesus was Ki... (show quote)

Does the bible say there will never be another prophet? I probably should know but I don't.When discussing Christianity with Christians I frequently would hear. I know it's true because I have a personal relationship with Jesus. I figured they were either communicating with him or believed they were. What evidence do you have (I'm only asking for evidence, not proof) that the Bible is the word of God? I can't believe it's true just because it says it is. I'm not telling you you are wrong. I'm just asking why you believe.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

thom w wrote:

That's a fine statement although it is an opinion. It doesn't in any way answer my question.

It's not an opinion and it is an absolute. People are the variable, that is why they disagree.

steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA

thom w wrote:

Does the bible say there will never be another pro... (show quote)

No it doesnt, in fact Revelation 11:3 says there are two to come in the latter days, of the tribulation. That of course does not apply to those who claim to be prophets today, but I would not try to find my way home; according to their directions.

I believe because of faith, and the indwelling Spirit verifies it to me. Externally look and see, just how many prophesies the scriptures gave, and how many came to pass. The average is 100% it missed none, that has to speak volumes for its reality. There were around 365 of the coming of Jesus, ALL were fulfilled. So given its accuracy, what is not to believe.

Some would say!, many prophesies were already fulfilled when the Bible was written. I would say "prove it". There is no other way to verify prophesy, other than to see it fulfilled. So those writing 2000 years in advance of Jesus coming, had to be shown something. The Isaiah scroll, in the Dead Sea finds dates to around 200 BC. But I guess that was faked, YEAH SURE!. Isaiah 53 tells of Jesus suffering on the cross. That was about 233 years, before it happened. Isaiah wrote long before that.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

steve40 wrote:

No it doesnt, in fact Revelation 11:3 says there... (show quote)

Mind boggling and goose bumps! Thanks for the lesson. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

steve40 wrote:

No it doesnt, in fact Revelation 11:3 says there... (show quote)

How does "the indwelling spirit" reveal it to you?

James Shaw

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James Shaw wrote:
Helpful, how?

Do you mean, helpful, like, "Some that witness are nuts?" (your words)

Nuts, would include Bangee, Rac, and many others on UHH, don't you think?

thom w wrote:

I'm not going there. I think all can agree with the statement as written. I don't think there is anything to be gained by anyone by calling out individuals plus there is always the question of what qualifies me to call someone nuts.

But when you say "some that witness are nuts" you are, despite what you say, "calling out individuals."

That is just like, Trump, who said, "I am not going to call Megan Kelly a bimbo.........." Well, there you have it, he just did call her a bimbo. You have done the same thing here, in my opinion.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

James Shaw wrote:

But when you say "some that witness are nuts" you are, despite what you say, "calling out individuals."

That is just like, Trump, who said, "I am not going to call Megan Kelly a bimbo.........." Well, there you have it, he just did call her a bimbo. You have done the same thing here, in my opinion.

I guess you can consider my target anyone you wish. I was not trying to shame anyone.

steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA

thom w wrote:

How does "the indwelling spirit" reveal it to you?

Have you ever had a feeling of security, in something you were about to do. Well - that's what the Holy Spirit gives the believer, about the truth of word.

Of course you can vex the Spirit, by questioning him. After that he just might leave you to your own understanding, which would be about the same as the non-believer has.
Seek and ye shall find, Ask and it shall be given, Knock and it shall be opened. :)

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Bangee5 wrote:

First, you would have to have a personal relations... (show quote)

oral roberts, jimmy swaggart, jim n tammy had personal relationship. i know they did. they said so :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

James Shaw

Yooper 2 wrote:

When I saw this topic this morning I thought it wo... (show quote)

Nor will it ever change, as long as there is no one alive to go talk to that is a God. You talk to God through an "ether" and there is a cacophony of voices in that ether as to make the talk meaningless. And it will remain always that way.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

kjv came to being cuz ole henery viii wanted a divorce. lol :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

kjv family tree
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thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

steve40 wrote:

Have you ever had a feeling of security, in something you were about to do. Well - that's what the Holy Spirit gives the believer, about the truth of word.

Of course you can vex the Spirit, by questioning him. After that he just might leave you to your own understanding, which would be about the same as the non-believer has. :)

I think you way under estimate the power of the human mind. I'm not saying you aren't feeling the spirit but I don't think a feeling proves it.

steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA

dirtpusher wrote:

oral roberts, jimmy swaggart, jim n tammy had personal relationship. i know they did. they said so :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

The proof of the cooks ability is in the taste of his dish, is it not?.