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DickE wrote:
Thank you so much for the information. It is especially helpful insight coming from a Nikon D700 user. You are correct that quality of the image is most important. A reduction in weight with no loss of quality is a real advantage. I have admired the Leica range finder system for years. I guess it would be considered a "Mirrorless camera." I would have purchased a Leica long ago for street photography were it not for the price. I guess quality usually has a cost. I will check out the information in the links you attached.
Thanks again,
Dick "from eight hours behind."
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2am here Dick - going to bed - but I've been a mirrorless convert for some time. US users "appear" to have climbed on board a little later than the rest of the world - that's OK - but y'all need to catch up !
just spent 3 hours in the cold and wind with my em1 and M645...mirrorless is light enough for me to carry around with 3 lenses and still lug my medium format film camera ;-)
I would like to see a side by side visual comparison of the pictures produced.
That says alot about the two cameras. I saw a art show and it was obvious which pictures were 2&1/4 film.
Phil Wissbeck wrote:
I would like to see a side by side visual comparison of the pictures produced.
Gotta wait for me to have it processed. And then I have to hope that I had the right exposure (no guarantees there), as Velvia 50 isn't very forgiving.
I'll post the results in a few weeks.
A comparison with film would be interesting but between mirrorless and DSLR would also be.
I know professional photographers that use them.
rjaywallace wrote:
Phil - there are MANY examples here and in the trade and enthusiast press of exceptional photos that were taken with mirrorless (and even 'lowly' DX) cameras. Your assertion that no professional uses them is total bollox!
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DickE wrote:
OK, everyone, This topic has probably been discussed before. I'm pretty new to the forum so I haven't seen the discussion. I'd like to know the relative advantages of the new mirrorless digital cameras. How do they work and how do they compare to DSLR's?
These new mirrorless?....
Olympus and Panasonic debuted the first mirrorless in 2006 with the Micro 4/3 sensors. The discussion is a decade old. Other camera mfrs followed suit shortly. The last holdouts have been Nikon and Canon who have still not brought to market a widely accepted "mirrorless", fostering the myth that is common about the lack of professional acceptance of "mirrorless".
"If it ain't Nikon or Canon, it certainly is not professional." How narrow minded is that? :shock:
As previously posted, searching the comparison will give you numerous threads about the discussion of one vs. the other both here and on other forums. It's only natural that some still regard the discussion as relatively new, but there's plenty of fodder out there to bring you up to speed on the discussion.
There have been for some time, plenty of Youtube and other videos with Professional Photographers touting the reasons they have either gone mirrorless for smaller, lighter mirrorless systems for second systems. Additionally many have found such systems to be sliding into the position of primary systems as they evolve to meet and exceed various needs for amateur, advanced and certainly Professional Photographers.
The biggest issue is to personally determine if they meet your particular needs and desires in a camera system. Your objectivity is warranted, and any biased narrow mindedness is discouraged.
The is the current "proverbial" film vs digital, or RAW vs. Jpeg discussion. Welcome to battle.
Phil Wissbeck wrote:
In a mirrorless camera like a Sony you are shooting through a filter and must suffer some altering of the image. It has been said on this forum that no professional uses such a camera.
Huhhh???? Totally erroneous statement. Shooting through a filter? The difference between the cameras is that the DSLR has a mirror that is used to "project" the image through the viewfinder. It must flip out of the way to allow the light to strike the sensor. Mirrorless cameras don't have that mirror. As such, the image you see in the viewfinder of mirrorless cameras is an electronic image, as opposed to the actual image, as in a DSLR. Because they don't have that mirror system in them, mirrorless cameras are generally smaller and lighter. No difference in image quality, as the process of the light entering the lens and striking the sensor to create the image is the same. Some actually say image quality is better with mirrorless, as the lens is closer to the sensor therefore there is more precision in the relationship between the lens and sensor. Also, vibration caused by the mirror flipping out the way of the sensor can degrade an image. Many, many pros use mirrorless cameras. Some industry folks predict that DSLR's will eventually fade away.
I agree on the weight thing you mentioned. I love the solid weighty feel of my dslr. in my hands.
bdk wrote:
At this time I am not a fan of mirrorless. why? its a very odd reason. I like the weight of a DSLR in my hand. For some reason when I have a very light camera I seem to move it more and get more blurry pics ..... The DSLR is heavier and I dont seem to have as many problems. Maybe someday I'll want that light weight but not now.
So Im at a dam shooting eagles with 100 other photographers all with much better equipment than I could ever afford. No problem they all talk to me and I get along with them great. IN comes a guy with a mirrorless camera, they treated him like he had the plague... Making fun of his camera.... I think its a stigma we need to get over.
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I've been a Canon shooter since I abandoned my Nikon film gear a while ago. I recently acquired a Sony A6000 and have been amazed at the results I'm getting. Oh it's not up to the big full frame and I didn't expect that, but I think Canon and Nikon both are well within the sights of Sony's guns.
I'm not leaving my Canon gear in the dust and I certainly can't change formats at this stage of my life. I've spent far too much on glass.
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