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Jan 19, 2016 18:14:45   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
[quote=Bmarsh]Huh? I keep JPG files online because there are very few programs that CAN'T deal with a JPG file... and very few that can deal with RAW... and those that can are usually large and slow for just simple picture viewing.

I was surprised to find that WIN 10 came with a photo viewer that deals with my Canon RAW very well, no editing but good for viewing.

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Jan 19, 2016 18:55:28   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Bmarsh wrote:
...I can't imagine not having JPG files available for all sorts of reasons, but mainly I want to look at the pictures from time to time. And I have a LOT of JPG files that don't have an equivalent RAW file... pictures from P&S cameras, scanned photos from long past, etc. So JPG is the mainstay in this household. If I were a professional photog, that would be different.

I look at the images also occasionally. For that reason I save the jpgs. Memory is cheap. And I have photos from old P&S cameras and scanners that are all jpg.

But for current use I shoot raw only. In my opinion it's better. I can correct my screwups (usually). But I convert the keepers to jpg because on my old computer it took close to a minute to load up LR. (The new one does much better).

For viewing the images I use IrfanView. Some people like FastStone, but I've been using IrvanView for probably 25 years and I don't see a reason to change. It loads quickly and you can run through all the images in a folder with the space bar and backspace key. As fast as you can press the keys (unless they're really large files). Sorry, Mac guys, IrfanView is Windows Only.

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Jan 19, 2016 19:58:44   #
katkase Loc: Grapeview, WA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I shoot raw, process them in LR and then save them as JPEGS. I don't want to discard the original raw files, so I have been saving them in a separate folder labeled Raw. Why do I save the raw copies? I may want to go back and process them differently, and as software gets better, so do the results. As I accumulate more raw images, I can see myself duplicating all my picture folders. Everything would have a JPEG folder and a raw counterpart. An alternative would be to keep the raw images in with the JPEGS. I know hard drives are getting larger and cheaper, but I don't want to have a room full of them.

How do you deal with storing JPEGS and raw files?
I shoot raw, process them in LR and then save them... (show quote)


I now do the same thing you do. My camera shoots both raw and jpgs. I process the raw first and save them as jpg's. I make files for the raw files and the jpgs. It works well for me.

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Jan 19, 2016 20:06:36   #
DesertRat71 Loc: Arizona
 
DWU2 wrote:
I shoot in RAW and process with Lightroom. I only keep the RAW files, and output to JPG when needed.


Ditto. Additionally, I have BackBlaze running in the background which stores all new files (including JPEG and raw) off site.

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Jan 19, 2016 21:07:53   #
Madman Loc: Gulf Coast, Florida USA
 
Bmarsh wrote:
Huh? I keep JPG files online because there are very few programs that CAN'T deal with a JPG file... and very few that can deal with RAW... and those that can are usually large and slow for just simple picture viewing.

What you are implying is that you don't really view your files very often or have to go in search of "that picture of Aunt Millie we took at the family picnic last year".

I can't imagine not having JPG files available for all sorts of reasons, but mainly I want to look at the pictures from time to time. And I have a LOT of JPG files that don't have an equivalent RAW file... pictures from P&S cameras, scanned photos from long past, etc. So JPG is the mainstay in this household. If I were a professional photog, that would be different.
Huh? I keep JPG files online because there are v... (show quote)


My images are stored in my desk top computer - available at any time. I can begin a slide show of edited RAW files anytime from any or all files. I can send my RAW files to my Epson printer without conversion to JPEG. Yes, I have some JPEGs from my scanner, but most times if I want to copy a print, I use my camera and copy stand.

Generally speaking, my purpose is to print the best of my images and hang them on the walls of my home.

So, I guess that I can summarize this way: I can make a JPEG from a RAW but not vice versa.

This works for ME - YOU do whatever works for YOU.

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Jan 19, 2016 21:32:45   #
Martys Loc: Lubec, Maine
 
High terabyte storage is quite reasonable these days so that is my preferred storage for RAW as well as all my processed work.

I've standardized on one filing & storage method that works consistently for my RAW workflow.
By now,...it is purely intuitive...same,....same....steps.
I have to maintain it,...so less complexity = less management.

My storage of all RAW file is simply done by Year folder / Month folder and then Date folder. ( each date folder with a brief recognizable subject to jar my memory.) >....01-18-16-FishingBoats n Gulls

Every RAW image I select to work on and upload,...I do the following.
My procedure.....
1.) My choice RAW files are processed in ACR, (or Lightroom) then brought into photoshop at 16 bit, saved as xxxx.psd files, they are ONLY spotted nothing else,....and save. (xxxx represents the numeric RAW ID #)

2.)This 2nd file is a copy of the 1st,..I Save/As.... a newly named-xxxx .psd file, (this file is where ALL my image work will be done,...layers, masks,color work, selections, third party work, modes and such. When totally complete all layers are locked and everything saved as FinalName-xxxx.psd

3.) Lastly I open the 2.) .psd file (above), flatten it,...and do a "Save For Web" to create my required high quality upload jpg for my website portfolio site.

These three files 1.)... 2,)... & 3.) are put into and kept in named folder matching the image name earlier selected.

Reading another persons methodology usually doesn't work for everyone. Your confident use and understanding of various programs, saving and indexing practices will most likely lead you to a choice that fits your workload.

Don't know if this helps anyone or not??

We each do the same things,....different......there is no one way that is correct.

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Jan 19, 2016 22:05:55   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
Flyerace wrote:
To avoid jamming up my computer hard drive with photos, only programming is on my computer. Every photo is on an external 5T hard drive.

When I come back from shooting photos, I download all of the RAW files to the Category it would fall into. i.e. Fall Tree Color 2016. This is on a 5T External Hard drive.

After I import and process in LR and or PSE, I send the finished JPEG back to the same folder with a proper name. If I need additional work done in PSE, I save it differently and send it back to the initial file folder. Then pull it up later in PSE.

All of it stays in the same file folder. When all is done, I copy the file folder and send it to another 5T External Hard Drive which I use for duplicate photos. Then it all gets backed up to a third hard drive, just for safety.

I don't understand the concept of naming the file by date shot. I can't remember what I did this morning never mind what I did on October 7th 2014. So that method of filing isn't the best for me. For the pros, maybe it works because they have a record of what they did that day.

My method works for me, maybe not for anyone else, but then again, I only have to worry about me. I'm retired. I shoot for fun.
To avoid jamming up my computer hard drive with ph... (show quote)


I let Lightroom import my RAW files where it puts them in a dated file and I let it rename them with a preset of date_time. After the import, I add the event to the created file with "rename". With face recognition active and keywords added, I can find anything. A dated system works for me. Lightroom has many ways to search for and find photos!

I also cull the pics, x for discards, 1 for keepers; then refine the grading of the keepers after the edits. Those with 3 stars goes automatically into a smart collection and this is saved in Lightroom mobile. That way, even if all my backups fail, my favorites are safe (although I do have an external drive with all my pictures...raw, scanned etc. in my safe deposit box!!!). The ones flagged with an x are deleted.

The publishing feature is a great way to send pictures elsewhere because Lightroom takes care of everything. I don't even have to create a Jpeg first! I'm so gladi learned how to use it. I know this is more than the OP asked & we are a little off-topic but that's my 2 cents worth!

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Jan 20, 2016 01:42:42   #
TexasBadger Loc: Wylie, TX
 
orrie smith wrote:
there are a lot of poor reviews on backblaze, check before you purchase


Do you have a link to the bad reviews? I have used them for two years with no issues. Carbonite was not such a good experience.

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