Best Next Upgrade Option
Jan 8, 2016 21:53:24 #
soaro77 wrote:
Great advice, thank you very much. I was just wond... (show quote)
I donno! I've got all three of those lenses. I use the 24-120mm constantly. The 70-200mm gets more use than the 150-600mm. But come spring (and understand that I live in a birder's paradise), that 150-600mm is a very nice lens for outdoor work.
But obviously my needs will not be the same as yours. I do a lot of event photography in poorly illuminate gyms, and usually I'm shooting with two cameras. I make good use of a 70-200mm. But you'll need to decide that for yourself. I just wanted to indicate how you can have that 18-200mm range for general photography, and know the options aren't limited to the expensive 70-200mm f/2.8 VRII.
Jan 9, 2016 06:19:42 #
Jan 9, 2016 06:40:02 #
soaro77 wrote:
It's starting to sound like I need to choose whether I prefer wildlife or landscape in order to make this decision. Sounds like the D500 would be the better choice if I want to do more wildlife and the 810 would be better if I want to do more landscape. Tough decision.
Get them both 810 and D500. :XD:
Jan 9, 2016 07:15:57 #
You would never regret purchasing a FF D810 and if you really want to break the bank a 14-24 lens.
Jan 9, 2016 08:10:03 #
One thing to consider is that when using lenses on a full frame and cropped sensor camera that result in the same field of view you get more depth of field from the cropped sensor camera for the same aperture setting. The perspective is the same.
I took some test photos with a full frame Nikon Df (16 megapixel) camera and a cropped sensor Nikon D7000 (16 megapixel) camera from a tripod that was left in one spot and focused on an object 108 feet away (I used a tape measure to measure everything). With the full frame camera I shot at a 85mm focal length and f/8 (upper photos) . With the cropped sensor camera I shot at an 56mm focal length and f/8 (lower photos). You can see how the photo taken with the cropped sensor camera has better focus on the storage container which was 37 feet away.
I took some test photos with a full frame Nikon Df (16 megapixel) camera and a cropped sensor Nikon D7000 (16 megapixel) camera from a tripod that was left in one spot and focused on an object 108 feet away (I used a tape measure to measure everything). With the full frame camera I shot at a 85mm focal length and f/8 (upper photos) . With the cropped sensor camera I shot at an 56mm focal length and f/8 (lower photos). You can see how the photo taken with the cropped sensor camera has better focus on the storage container which was 37 feet away.
Perspective and field of view is the same from full frame at 85mm and cropped sensor at 56mm. I focused on an object 108 feet away
Upper photo full frame, lower photo cropped sensor. This container is 37 feet from cameras. There's more depth of field from the cropped sensor camera.
Jan 9, 2016 08:15:47 #
Apaflo wrote:
Frankly I would suspect that if you purchase a D810 that D7200 is going to start collecting dust.
When would a D7200 produce a better quality image than the D810 given what you are shooting???
When would a D7200 produce a better quality image than the D810 given what you are shooting???
My last trip I used a D7200 and D810 interchanging with the same lenses and really did not see a difference But I have pre-ordered the D500 to replace my D7100 the D7200 was a loaner to try out
Jan 9, 2016 08:31:49 #
soaro77 wrote:
I am an amateur photographer and currently have a ... (show quote)
That's a tough call. Several other people are in the same quandary. I would wait till the camera comes out and is reviewed and compared. Then decide what features are more important to you.
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/compare/
Jan 9, 2016 09:15:36 #
you may want to consider the d750 also, controls are very similar to the d7200 and reviews rate it higher that the d810. as for the lens, always save a little more and purchase full frame lenses (FX). they may cost a little more to purchase, but if you ever decide to change to a full frame camera, you will not need to reinvest in lenses. FX lenses will work with DX cameras, but DX lenses will not work as FX lenses on a full frame camera. that said, the d7200 will work really well with landscape photography, you just need to calculate before purchasing a lens, example, if you want 35mm, buy a 24mm or 28mm lens. 24mm will give you about a 36mm result, 25mm lens will give you about a 42mm result.
Jan 9, 2016 09:54:52 #
Why upgrade that D7200 is a good as it gets can't get any better. Spend your money on glass and you'll be all set and less money out the door....
soaro77 wrote:
I am an amateur photographer and currently have a ... (show quote)
Jan 9, 2016 09:55:51 #
soaro77 wrote:
The only problem with that is FF wide angle lenses usually start around 14mm. On a crop frame that is like 21mm so while it is still considered wide angle it isn't really all that wide. Or does that not really matter?
Ps, 20mm used to be ultra wide by any standard. Beyond that was esoteric.
Jan 9, 2016 10:13:04 #
sr71 wrote:
Why upgrade that D7200 is a good as it gets can't get any better. Spend your money on glass and you'll be all set and less money out the door....
:thumbup: :thumbup: I attended a seminar on waterfalls photography once. The instructor recommended using a cropped sensor camera for the extra depth of field it can provide. Getting sharp glass is the most important thing.
Jan 9, 2016 10:27:50 #
RRS
Loc: Not sure
Bill_de wrote:
Don't try to scare him off. They are down to just over $16,000, including, a tuned to each lens, 1.25X TC. If you buy from B&H you get $600+ rewards credits. That brings the lens down to < $16,000. :)
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Gosh, at that price I'd better buy two just so I'll have a back-up. :) :) :)
Jan 9, 2016 11:06:30 #
soaro77 wrote:
I am an amateur photographer and currently have a ... (show quote)
If you want a better birding/action camera, wait for the new D500. Using the 18-200mm lens should be fine for your wide angle landscapes. I had a 10-22mm lens for my crop body but rarely used it since I prefered shooting most of my landscapes at around 18mm anyway.
Jan 9, 2016 11:31:15 #
Mark7829
Loc: Calfornia
Forget all that everyone has mentioned.... You have an excellent camera. Believe me, it is good. There is nothing wrong with the frame rate or anything else. Find a nice wide angle for your camera, prime or zoom and you will be fine. Most in here talk about minutia of gear but know jack about light and composition.
Checkout these award winning iPhone pics
http://www.ippawards.com/2015-winning-photographs/
Where was the big Nikon or Canon, or wide angle? It is all about light and composition, NOT GEAR!!!!!
Checkout these award winning iPhone pics
http://www.ippawards.com/2015-winning-photographs/
Where was the big Nikon or Canon, or wide angle? It is all about light and composition, NOT GEAR!!!!!
Jan 9, 2016 11:40:20 #
drizztguen77
Loc: Tualatin, OR
orrie smith wrote:
you may want to consider the d750 also, controls a... (show quote)
I agree for everything but wide angle. A FX wide angle isn't that wide on a cropped frame sensor.
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