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Jan 8, 2016 19:14:48   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
ken hubert wrote:
You are anything EXCEPT normal!


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Jan 9, 2016 00:45:14   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Step into the real world. Lol did you know all guns have a cylinder barrel. Lol :thumbup:


Since shotguns were not originally intended to fire solid projectiles, but rather a compressible mass of shot, the actual diameter of the bore can vary. The fact that most shotgun bores are not cylindrical also causes deviations from the ideal bore diameter.
The chamber of the gun is larger, to accommodate the thickness of the shotshell walls, and a "forcing cone" in front of the chamber reduces the diameter down to the bore diameter. The forcing cone can be as short as a fraction of an inch, or as long as a few inches on some guns. At the muzzle end of the barrel, the choke can constrict the bore even further, so measuring the bore diameter of a shotgun is not a simple process, as it must be done away from either end.
Shotgun bores are commonly "overbored" or "backbored", meaning that most of the bore (from the forcing cone to the choke) is slightly larger than the value given by the formula. This is claimed to reduce felt recoil and improve patterning. The recoil reduction is due to the larger bore producing a slower acceleration of the shot, and the patterning improvements are due to the larger muzzle diameter for the same choke constriction, which results in less shot deformation. A 12-gauge shotgun, nominally 18.5 mm (0.73 in), can range from a tight 18.3 mm (0.72 in) to an extreme overbore of 20.3 mm (0.80 in). Some also claim an increased velocity with the overbored barrels, up to 15 m/s (49 ft/s), which is due to the larger swept volume of the overbored barrel. Once only found in expensive custom shotguns, overbored barrels are now becoming common in mass marketed guns. Aftermarket backboring is also commonly done to reduce the weight of the barrel, and move the center of mass backwards for a better balance. Factory overbored barrels generally are made with a larger outside diameter, and will not have this reduction in weight—though the factory barrels will be tougher, since they have a normal barrel wall thickness.

Mike

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Jan 9, 2016 04:50:46   #
outdoorphotoman Loc: Helena, .MT
 
RixPix wrote:
Uzi, AKs, Magnums high-caliber machine guns, high caliber shot guns.


Hey Ricky, You don't know much abut guns do you? Machine guns are legal only for about 1% of our citizens. As far as the executive action that Obama is putting into place it would only stop .07 percent of shootings in the US. That is 7 hundredths of 1 percent. All of the guns in recent shootings were purchased legally or stolen. If Obama prosecuted the laws on the books we now have, crime in Chicago and other large cities would drop 60 to 70%. Maybe you should use Google and learn what a magnum and a shotgun are? If you want to get into a coversation about guns try to learn something about them first. Maybe take a couple of classes and learn how to shoot.

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Jan 9, 2016 09:18:06   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
venturer9 wrote:
Since shotguns were not originally intended to fire solid projectiles, but rather a compressible mass of shot, the actual diameter of the bore can vary. The fact that most shotgun bores are not cylindrical also causes deviations from the ideal bore diameter.
The chamber of the gun is larger, to accommodate the thickness of the shotshell walls, and a "forcing cone" in front of the chamber reduces the diameter down to the bore diameter. The forcing cone can be as short as a fraction of an inch, or as long as a few inches on some guns. At the muzzle end of the barrel, the choke can constrict the bore even further, so measuring the bore diameter of a shotgun is not a simple process, as it must be done away from either end.
Shotgun bores are commonly "overbored" or "backbored", meaning that most of the bore (from the forcing cone to the choke) is slightly larger than the value given by the formula. This is claimed to reduce felt recoil and improve patterning. The recoil reduction is due to the larger bore producing a slower acceleration of the shot, and the patterning improvements are due to the larger muzzle diameter for the same choke constriction, which results in less shot deformation. A 12-gauge shotgun, nominally 18.5 mm (0.73 in), can range from a tight 18.3 mm (0.72 in) to an extreme overbore of 20.3 mm (0.80 in). Some also claim an increased velocity with the overbored barrels, up to 15 m/s (49 ft/s), which is due to the larger swept volume of the overbored barrel. Once only found in expensive custom shotguns, overbored barrels are now becoming common in mass marketed guns. Aftermarket backboring is also commonly done to reduce the weight of the barrel, and move the center of mass backwards for a better balance. Factory overbored barrels generally are made with a larger outside diameter, and will not have this reduction in weight—though the factory barrels will be tougher, since they have a normal barrel wall thickness.

Mike
Since shotguns were not originally intended to fir... (show quote)


lol you an skybrain, are the ones saying shotguns are not calibered. or don't have a cliber... guess you allz iz incorrect again. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Jan 9, 2016 12:26:19   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
lol you an skybrain, are the ones saying shotguns are not calibered. or don't have a cliber... guess you allz iz incorrect again. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


In other words, you never read what has been posted on the Guage not Caliber of Shotguns.... Got it.... stupid is as stupid does not read..

Mike

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Jan 9, 2016 12:34:09   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
venturer9 wrote:
In other words, you never read what has been posted on the Guage not Caliber of Shotguns.... Got it.... stupid is as stupid does not read..

Mike


stupid never once have i said gauge was a caliber. lol yuz haven't figured out ALL guns that has a CYLINDER has a caliber iz wat iz say'n. so deal with it. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ..........:mrgreen:

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Jan 9, 2016 12:39:06   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
dirtpusher wrote:
is that gonna take any guns away you. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

it may save your butt if guns get in wrong hands.

it may of helped in san bernardino. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


How would it have prevented San Bernadino massacre?

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Jan 9, 2016 12:42:37   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
yhtomit wrote:
How would it have prevented San Bernadino massacre?


it pretty hard to stop a crazy person. if don't know where or who they are :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Jan 9, 2016 13:01:48   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
dirtpusher wrote:
it pretty hard to stop a crazy person. if don't know where or who they are :roll: :roll: :roll:


But how?

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Jan 9, 2016 13:07:50   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
yhtomit wrote:
But how?


what is your plan :?: :?: :?: :?:

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Jan 9, 2016 14:01:27   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
dirtpusher wrote:
what is your plan :?: :?: :?: :?:


Arm teachers and the general public. It take care of the problem where it occurs, when it occurs. Any other solution feels good, but does not fix the problem. Kids and innocent people will continue to be massacred.

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Jan 9, 2016 14:08:04   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
yhtomit wrote:
Arm teachers and the general public. It take care of the problem where it occurs, when it occurs. Any other solution feels good, but does not fix the problem. Kids and innocent people will continue to be massacred.


i like kansas law. no permit required :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 9, 2016 15:58:37   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
stupid never once have i said gauge was a caliber. lol yuz haven't figured out ALL guns that has a CYLINDER has a caliber iz wat iz say'n. so deal with it. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ..........:mrgreen:
stupid never once have i said gauge was a caliber.... (show quote)



NO, it started out with you saying that the op said something it did not say... and you haven't changed your tune yet...

Mike

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Jan 9, 2016 16:09:28   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
venturer9 wrote:
NO, it started out with you saying that the op said something it did not say... and you haven't changed your tune yet...

Mike


Lol so what is the caliber of a 12 gauge shotgun :roll: :roll:

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Jan 9, 2016 22:52:56   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Lol so what is the caliber of a 12 gauge shotgun :roll: :roll:



It has no caliber, it has a gauge...........a 12 gauge to be precise...

Mike

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