floral43

Long playing 33 rpm record !45 at that time played a single song on each side. When they finally figured out how to attenuate bass long wave lengths, and accentuate highs short wave lengths, they were able to fit more music onto a record, hence long playing.

floral43

Vinyl still lives because analog sounds better than digital, digital must be converted to analog! (DAC) due the conversion, this process causes time lapse problems do the nature of the electronics involved, ultimately leading to distortion known as jitter. How ever the latest high tec. dacs
can correct this problem, at a high cost.

ecar Loc: Oregon, USA

Which version of Goldwave are you using?

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

The latest, v6.18 on Windows 10

jboy24 Loc: Downey Ca,

Absolutely, too much electronics in the way.. analogue is better in so many ways, however I have heard some of the latest Hi Res stuff and it sounds very good not to mention it cost a fortune, but I still love analogue and with my budget I will just keep replacing tubes update the internal components when needed. My VTL mono's and my ARC SP 10 (an incredible phono preamp) are 20 + yrs old and they sound unbelievably close to the new stuff out there thanks to these special tubes that I have acquired that are costing me allot.

jboy24 Loc: Downey Ca,

Since I found this thread a little late I am playing cath up, this is from the first couple pages... I absolutely agree, this is my feelings exactly about vinyl, I could not put it any better. To this day with the Hi Res stuff analogue/vinyl sounds warm lush oh so natural like it is being performed live in your living room with ALL the emotion, you just DONOT get that with digital...

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

In my younger days I played accordion in a band (yes, I wore lederhosen and sang beer drinking songs at Oktoberfest; good money, BTW -- it put me through university). At one point I "upgraded" to a Cordovox, which was essentially an accordion modified to have switches under every key and button, plus a few control switches on the front. The accordion was connected to a vacuum tube organ tone generator via a monstrous 3/4-inch diameter cable terminating with two 50-pin connectors at the accordion. The tone generator box was then connected to an amplifier box. The entire setup ran on 67 vacuum tubes -- a room heater, in other words!!! Yeah, well before the days of MIDI.

A fellow musician bought a newer version of Cordovox that had gone solid state. All the guts were inside the bellows space, so he simply had to connect to an amplifier via a 1/4-inch microphone jack and cable, much like a guitar.

Well, we both performed on floats in the annual Oktoberfest Parade, and one year it rained. Of course, we did not dare get the electronic bits wet, so we played "un-amplified" (i.e., just the accordion, no organ sounds) on the floats. But even the garbage bag draped over my instrument could not keep all the water out. Later that day we had to plug the instruments into their respective amplifiers to perform at the beer halls. His Cordovox went "poof", and that was the end of it. Mine with the tubes, on the other hand, just merrily played a bunch of notes all by itself until the switches dried out, and then it was fine.

On a different night of performing my sax player had put a mug of beer on the organ generator box and then swung around and knocked it over. As the beer ran down the circuit board the instrument again played notes all by itself until the "shorts" subsided, and all was well again.

All this to say that tubes, while more susceptible to mechanical damage than solid state, were way more tolerant of electrical insults.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Aah! All the accordion jokes that come to mind! More seriously, are you familiar with the playing of Phil Cunningham? If not, give his album 'The Palomino Waltz' a listen.

Cheers

RichardQ Loc: Colorado

One correction, Jerry. Each 10-inch-diameter 78-rpm record carried TWO songs, one on each side, so 12 songs would fit on SIX records. The larger 12-inch 78-rpm records were usually intended for classical music.

Jim Bob

And this thread is related to photography, how?

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Very tenuously, from the sound of it!

coj Loc: NJ, USA

It is related because photographers are discussing it!! Heh - heh.

RichardQ Loc: Colorado

I was born in 1927, so my first phonograph was -- believe it or not -- an Edison wind-up which played TUBULAR (aka CYLINDRICAL) recordings that resembled a rotating lathe. This was the only way to record sound until the flat rotating disc was invented. The pickup traversed from one end to the other and carried a horn for amplification, although the sound level could be enjoyed without the horn. The recording tube material was a thick black plastic-like substance, and the title was embossed on the outer end of the tube's rim. Edison, who ironically was partially deaf, fought fiercely to kill the disk competition but lost out.

Anyway, I eventually accumulated some 2,000 vinyl LP albums which are neatly filed in racks in my basement so they can't cause my floor to sag. My appreciation for the 12-inch format is especially strong for the extra features, such as opera librettos (who can read the tiny librettos included with CDs?) and photos of performers.

In 2004 I bought a software program called the DAK 2000 for converting and editing my LPs and cassettes into WAV and MP3 files. (DAK is short for Drew Kaplan, who was a prolific catalog producer in the day.) I don't know if the company is still in business but the system is marvellous, as far as i'm concerned. It cost $19.95 and was downloaded into my computer without any hardware. It's terrific fun to use. You plug your turntable or cassette player into a small amplifier which you connect to the apprpriate computer port on your computer's backside. When you play your analog recording, it produces a real-time wave pattern of each stereo channel while creating a file. When it's complete, you can play back the wave patterns and enlarge them to the point of isolating any dust "pop" or distortion so it can be deleted. But it has many more features as well. The hefty instruction manual is also transmitted and is fun to read.
If you want to look it up, try: www.dak.com.reviews/Tutorial_LP.cfm

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

And now you can claim to be a sound engineer amongst your other accomplishments! How cool is that? :-D

There are many comparable devices that perform the same function, and also software packages. Although I like to have good quality audio and always aim for it, for me the most important aspect is the recordings that are no longer available anywhere for all sorts of reasons, from licensing issues to insufficient market opportunity. Vinyl and even CDs are an archive resource that we may lose, especially from the independent musicians, as is the album art which frequently brings us back to photography!

Cheers

RichardQ Loc: Colorado

This is a promotion photo from Columbia Records, ca. 1947, illustrating the space saving of 33-1/3 rpm LP vinyl records vs. a stack of 78-rpm shellac records with the same music in both.