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May 1, 2012 05:19:54   #
welshgypsy Loc: North Wales UK
 
Take a lot of water shots but can't seem to master the "dreamy water" look. Tried setting camera on TV mode and various slow shutter speeds but hasnt worked. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to be using the tripod?

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May 1, 2012 05:23:32   #
MsJ Loc: Northern Indiana
 
Post a pic and let's see how it looks now.

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May 1, 2012 07:10:39   #
Wanda Krack Loc: Tennessee, USA
 
Tripod, slow shutter speed, and high f-stop, and hopefully a low light, or overcast day. Otherwise, need to add some darkening filters in front of the lens.

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May 1, 2012 21:44:07   #
normsImages Loc: Alabama for now
 
Tripod and shutter speed slower than half sec.

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May 1, 2012 23:49:33   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
normsImages wrote:
Tripod and shutter speed slower than half sec.



... a lot slower.

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May 2, 2012 06:17:43   #
Nikon13 Loc: North Carolina
 
All of the above with a remote shutter release. Polarizing filter helps cut reflections too.

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May 2, 2012 06:33:25   #
Adirondack Hiker Loc: Southern Adirondacks
 
A tripod is a MUST. The exposure should be between 1/2 and 2 seconds. Also, I typically use an f/stop of f/16, as well as a circular polarizer to further reduce light and reduce any glare. I set the ISO to 100-200. Avoid sun light, it is a killer. Dawn, dusk overcast and even rainy days are the best times to shoot. Finally practice, practice, practice. Good Luck.



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May 2, 2012 11:15:51   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
Well said and thorough. I have gone as slow as 6 seconds. As you said the sun is our enemy when doing this.
Adirondack Hiker wrote:
A tripod is a MUST. The exposure should be between 1/2 and 2 seconds. Also, I typically use an f/stop of f/16, as well as a circular polarizer to further reduce light and reduce any glare. I set the ISO to 100-200. Avoid sun light, it is a killer. Dawn, dusk overcast and even rainy days are the best times to shoot. Finally practice, practice, practice. Good Luck.

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May 2, 2012 14:00:16   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
teresabinns wrote:
Take a lot of water shots but can't seem to master the "dreamy water" look. Tried setting camera on TV mode and various slow shutter speeds but hasnt worked. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to be using the tripod?


The best way to do this kind if photography is to get a 10 stop Neutral density filter. This filter cuts the amount of light reaching the sensor or film and you have to use a much slower shutter speed, as low as 30 seconds under lower light. This results in the dreamy cloudy look that moving water will have and clouds passing by will turn into soft pillows. You can also use this filter to shoot on sunny days for the same effect. Dont get a cheap filter, a higher quality filter will have a lot less color cast that cheap filters can have. Look at B&W or Schneider. The good filters are pricy but the glass is a much higher quality and there will be less color shifting. Polarizing filters do not have enough density to accomplish the desired effect. One last thing. There are slim design filters that will not cause vignetting on wide angle filters, if you can find one of these it will be a good investment. Have fun.

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May 2, 2012 14:05:09   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
I've been wanting to play with this more for myself.
Thanks for the info.
A quick search came up with this site:
http://www.smashingapps.com/2009/12/12/45-breathtaking-examples-of-slow-shutter-speed-photography.html

Has some good examples.

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May 2, 2012 16:56:16   #
welshgypsy Loc: North Wales UK
 
Adirondack Hiker wrote:
A tripod is a MUST. The exposure should be between 1/2 and 2 seconds. Also, I typically use an f/stop of f/16, as well as a circular polarizer to further reduce light and reduce any glare. I set the ISO to 100-200. Avoid sun light, it is a killer. Dawn, dusk overcast and even rainy days are the best times to shoot. Finally practice, practice, practice. Good Luck.

Thats exactly what I am hoping to achieve, great photo, will keep practicing

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May 2, 2012 17:33:32   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
teresabinns wrote:
Thats exactly what I am hoping to achieve . . .
Here is the same effect on a very small waterfall (combined fall less than 3-feet). Exactly the same procedure.

Nikon D5000 at ISO 100, Nikkor 18-55 zoom lens at 55-mm, 0.6-sec at f/36.

Spring Creek ford in the Upper Tomichi Valley, Colorado
Spring Creek ford in the Upper Tomichi Valley, Col...

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May 3, 2012 14:35:55   #
welshgypsy Loc: North Wales UK
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
teresabinns wrote:
Thats exactly what I am hoping to achieve . . .
Here is the same effect on a very small waterfall (combined fall less than 3-feet). Exactly the same procedure.

Nikon D5000 at ISO 100, Nikkor 18-55 zoom lens at 55-mm, 0.6-sec at f/36.


You're making me really jealous now!

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May 3, 2012 14:41:33   #
hlmichel Loc: New Hope, Minnesota
 
silver wrote:
teresabinns wrote:
Take a lot of water shots but can't seem to master the "dreamy water" look. Tried setting camera on TV mode and various slow shutter speeds but hasnt worked. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to be using the tripod?


The best way to do this kind if photography is to get a 10 stop Neutral density filter. This filter cuts the amount of light reaching the sensor or film and you have to use a much slower shutter speed, as low as 30 seconds under lower light. This results in the dreamy cloudy look that moving water will have and clouds passing by will turn into soft pillows. You can also use this filter to shoot on sunny days for the same effect. Dont get a cheap filter, a higher quality filter will have a lot less color cast that cheap filters can have. Look at B&W or Schneider. The good filters are pricy but the glass is a much higher quality and there will be less color shifting. Polarizing filters do not have enough density to accomplish the desired effect. One last thing. There are slim design filters that will not cause vignetting on wide angle filters, if you can find one of these it will be a good investment. Have fun.
quote=teresabinns Take a lot of water shots but c... (show quote)


Just wondering what qualifies as pricy for a quality filter. I thought $40-50 would be considered pricy for a 52mm filter--still trying to wrap my mind around a $200+ filter.

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May 4, 2012 01:34:46   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
hlmichel wrote:
silver wrote:
teresabinns wrote:
Take a lot of water shots but can't seem to master the "dreamy water" look. Tried setting camera on TV mode and various slow shutter speeds but hasnt worked. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to be using the tripod?


The best way to do this kind if photography is to get a 10 stop Neutral density filter. This filter cuts the amount of light reaching the sensor or film and you have to use a much slower shutter speed, as low as 30 seconds under lower light. This results in the dreamy cloudy look that moving water will have and clouds passing by will turn into soft pillows. You can also use this filter to shoot on sunny days for the same effect. Dont get a cheap filter, a higher quality filter will have a lot less color cast that cheap filters can have. Look at B&W or Schneider. The good filters are pricy but the glass is a much higher quality and there will be less color shifting. Polarizing filters do not have enough density to accomplish the desired effect. One last thing. There are slim design filters that will not cause vignetting on wide angle filters, if you can find one of these it will be a good investment. Have fun.
quote=teresabinns Take a lot of water shots but c... (show quote)


Just wondering what qualifies as pricy for a quality filter. I thought $40-50 would be considered pricy for a 52mm filter--still trying to wrap my mind around a $200+ filter.
quote=silver quote=teresabinns Take a lot of wat... (show quote)


It depends what size filter you are getting. I am getting a Heliopan 77mm 10 stop thin filter and the price for this filter is about $200.00. This is a high quality filter but if you look at some brands such as Singh Ray you will see filters there for 4-500.00. It depends upon size and what quality filter you are after. Sometimes it pays to spend more to get a better quality filter. Also the type of glass used influences the price.

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