Why not make camera settings standard.
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
RichardSM wrote:
Now that's funny Peter
Glad you took it in the manner that it was intended!
Back to endarkenment, now! :D
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
lev29 wrote:
I am addressing ONLY THE SYMBOLS EMPLOYED ON CAMERA DIALS, etc., in this Topic that originally was intended to discuss "camera settings."
I can think of only two categories of impediments to establishing a Standardized Set of Symbols at this moment: a. choosing which alphabet and language to employ for the standard, and b. Copyright issues. I think the latter is the "stickier" of the two.
Lev, don't worry about the copyright issue -- I have that all wrapped up already. See, my great-great-great-
-great uncle, who was a Neanderthal and shot Canon but married a Troglodite who preferred Nikon and had a son they called "Sonnie" but whose name was later shortened to Sony, invented the alphabet (Wikipedia has the history of the alphabet wrong) and registered Pat Pending # -10^4 (they could only count on the power of 4 fingers back then) on use of letters of the alphabet, either singly or in combinations. I get royalty cheques for everything ever written. Well, truth be told, since the ruling is still pending the royalties are only on paper so far; nothing actually paid out yet. But someday
and the longer this thread becomes
Yes, standards. US vs Imperial gallons, etc. As I commented in a different thread, I hope the US chooses the same size litre as the rest of the world when they finally agree to go metric. ;)
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
JohnFrim wrote:
....I hope the US chooses the same size litre as the rest of the world when they finally agree to go metric. ;)
I hope we can agree to go metric before we all go postal!
Study and learn how to use your equipment---
Take plenty photos and enjoy them both.
boberic wrote:
Can anyone please tell my why Canon uses TV and AV instead of simply S or A ? Shouldn't they want to make it easier for the new users t understand the settings. They don't use unique nomenclature on their lenses.
Thanks for posting, now I finally have something really important to be concerned and worried about. :lol:
fantom wrote:
Thanks for posting, now I finally have something really important to be concerned and worried about. :lol:
:thumbup: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
fantom wrote:
Thanks for posting, now I finally have something really important to be concerned and worried about. :lol:
From the OP It's as important as many of the topics discusses on this forum
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
boberic wrote:
From the OP It's as important as many of the topics discussed on this forum
Exactly, a very astute observation!
Now, if I only knew what to make of that assessment! :lol: :lol:
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
Peterff wrote:
Exactly, a very astute observation!
Now, if I only knew what to make of that assessment! :lol: :lol:
I can't help as I have no idea LMAO
boberic wrote:
I can't help as I have no idea LMAO
But did you get a satisfactory answer to your initial post? To me it makes a lot of sense for Canon to use Av and Tv instead of A and S.
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
BebuLamar wrote:
But did you get a satisfactory answer to your initial post? To me it makes a lot of sense for Canon to use Av and Tv instead of A and S.
I think the answer is that we explored all sorts of ideas, without much conclusion. Perhaps we came to the discussion with too many assumptions:
Automatic
Shutter
Synchronization
Under
Manually
Programmed
Techniques
Intelligently
Optimizing
Notional
Scenarios!
or something equally asinine!
So, I think we just burned a bunch of bandwidth to little useful purpose. That's the UHH way in so many cases.
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
Peterff wrote:
I think the answer is that we explored all sorts of ideas, without much conclusion. Perhaps we came to the discussion with too many assumptions:
Automatic Shutter Synchronization Under Manually Programmed Techniques Intelligently Optimizing Notional Scenarios!
or something equally asinine!
So, I think we just burned a bunch of bandwidth to little useful purpose. That's the UHH way in so many cases.
I think the answer is that we explored all sorts o... (
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OMG
I didn't think there were others like me out there!!! Well Done. :thumbup:
(That would be
We
Explored
Lots of
Lousy
Drivel
Over
Nothing
Exciting.) ;)
No one in his right mind ever said photography is easy. Man up to this rewarding craft.
boberic wrote:
Can anyone please tell my why Canon uses TV and AV instead of simply S or A ? Shouldn't they want to make it easier for the new users t understand the settings. They don't use unique nomenclature on their lenses.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
BebuLamar wrote:
Canon never used the S. In the old days their camera has an A on the lens, it means Auto and put the camera in Shutter Priority Mode. When they started to make a camera with Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority and Program mode they use Av, Tv and P. They didn't want to use A alone as it would confuse with the A on the lens. Canon was the first to have a 35mm SLR with all 4 modes as we know today.
Other manufacturers usually offered aperture priority up to that time so their A setting meant Auto but also is Aperture priority so when they added the other modes it makes sense for them to use the S for shutter priority.
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Did Canon systems not work similarly to Pentax K-mount systems? The aperture ring on my 1984 KA-lens has the usual settings 1.7, 2, 2.8, 4, etc, which allowed me to set the aperture manually,
plus an "A" setting which I used to transfer aperture control to the camera body. Thus, if I set the lens to "A" and then set a shutter speed on the body, I
did essentially get what we know today as shutter-priority mode, but if I set the lens to "A" and then set the body to "Auto", I essentially got what we know today as program mode.
Incidentally, if I mount that same 1984 KA-mount lens on my modern Pentax camera, setting the aperture ring to "A" causes it to work exactly the same on that camera as does any modern lens without an aperture ring.
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