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Dec 10, 2015 02:37:06   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
tradio wrote:
It seems the Arca Swiss style plate is the industry standard so I went with a head that is compatible. Currently, I am using a ball head from RRS, it's their biggest ball head and I think its called a BH55?? I really enjoy using this head compared with some of the cheaper heads I have used.


I would go with the Really Right Stuff also . They should last a life time and
The Arca plate . Along with the lightest and strongest carbon try pod I can
Afford to buy . That is if I needed one . I shoot from my car using the window
Opening for a tripod . I see eagles every day if I go out . A longer lens before
Tripod gear for me .

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Dec 10, 2015 08:15:36   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Keep in mind the OP's budget is $450 to $550 for a tripod and a head. The rrs looks nice, but the ball head without a platform is $355. Where do you put most of your money? The tripod or the head?

Of course, it still pays to watch for holiday sales. If you get the RRS, you still might be able to get a comparable tripod and stay in budget, if you find one on sale.

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Dec 10, 2015 09:08:02   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
BIG ROB wrote:
Hello, everyone! I'm now shopping for a good, solid, all around, general usage, stable tripod, in the $450.00 to $550.00 range, on B&H Photo.

I'm choosing from the Manfrotto's, and I'm uncertain as to what type and specific model, of tripod head, I should purchase.

Which design type, and then specific model, would be, the BEST ONE FOR ME, and also, the MOST ENJOYABLE, TO USE?

They list 12 models of Tripod Heads; on there Website, IN THE FOLLOWING CONFIGURATIONS: Pan/Tilt Head, Horizontal Grip Action Ball Head, Light Duty Grip Ball Head, Geared Head, 3D Magnesium Head, Midi Ball Head, and 3-Way Pan & Tilt, possibly, the same as Pan & Tilt. And then, some of them, are refereed to as, "Junior," before their model names. (Whatever that means?)

The actual, listed Model's Numbers, for them, Are: #'s: 056 3D Junior Pan/Tilt Head, 324RC2 Horizontal Grip Action Ball Head, 324RC2 Light Duty Grip Ball Head, 327RC2 Light Duty Grip Ball Head, 391RC2 Junior 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head, 410 Junior Geared Head, 460MG 3D Magnesium Head, 496RC2 Midi Ball Head, 498RC2 Midi Ball Head, 498RC4 Midi Ball Head, 804RC2 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head, 808RC4 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head, and the 054 Q2 Magnesium Ball Head Deluxe Kit!

All of these heads, are Manfrotto heads, being sold, with the Manfrotto Tripod Legs, # MT055XPRO4, for between, $420. and $560.

I'm asking, what are the differences, between these various Tripod Heads? How would a knowledgeable Photographer, make a selection, from among all of these, various types, and models, of Tripod Heads? They must each, have their own strengths, and weaknesses, in their individual usages.

Is there any one out there, who understands, what the differences between these various Manfrotto Tripod Head model's are? Can you provide me, with advice, in selecting the best one, for my own, individual purposes, and to get the maximum enjoyment, from it?

I only know about Tripods; that I need, great stability, load carrying ability, and light weight, and that there is both pan/tilt, and ball head.

I would really greatly appreciate, any relevant information, even if of a broad and general nature, regarding these types of Tripod Heads and there best uses; that anyone, can contribute, toward these questions; to aid me, in making a wise decision!

Thank you, very much, for your assistance and your best advice!!!

I presently, only know the difference, between the ball, and the pan and tilt, but not even which each is best suited for!

Merry Christmas to ALL!!!

Rob. :)
Hello, everyone! I'm now shopping for a good, sol... (show quote)


my standard is the old Ansel Adams preference, when using tripods. that is the heaviest tripod for the field, along with the heaviest ball head available. my preference for the field is the burlebach wood tripod with the large linhof ball head which holds a maximum of 22 pounds.

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Dec 10, 2015 09:31:35   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Consider the tripod will last you a while. If your budget can afford it go carbon fiber.I would suggest a
T-2205X CARBON FIBER TRIPOD

Sirui T-2205X CARBON FIBER TRIPOD

B&H# SIBSRT2205 : Mfr# BSRT2205. It is great. I have one and it is also super for traveling. As far as the head is concerned, I like a Gimbal Head.NEEWER BK-45 Professional Gimbal Tripod Head for Telephoto Lens Camera. Find that on Ebay. That total cost less than $400 and in your budget.
BIG ROB wrote:
Hello, everyone! I'm now shopping for a good, solid, all around, general usage, stable tripod, in the $450.00 to $550.00 range, on B&H Photo.

I'm choosing from the Manfrotto's, and I'm uncertain as to what type and specific model, of tripod head, I should purchase.

Which design type, and then specific model, would be, the BEST ONE FOR ME, and also, the MOST ENJOYABLE, TO USE?

They list 12 models of Tripod Heads; on there Website, IN THE FOLLOWING CONFIGURATIONS: Pan/Tilt Head, Horizontal Grip Action Ball Head, Light Duty Grip Ball Head, Geared Head, 3D Magnesium Head, Midi Ball Head, and 3-Way Pan & Tilt, possibly, the same as Pan & Tilt. And then, some of them, are refereed to as, "Junior," before their model names. (Whatever that means?)

The actual, listed Model's Numbers, for them, Are: #'s: 056 3D Junior Pan/Tilt Head, 324RC2 Horizontal Grip Action Ball Head, 324RC2 Light Duty Grip Ball Head, 327RC2 Light Duty Grip Ball Head, 391RC2 Junior 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head, 410 Junior Geared Head, 460MG 3D Magnesium Head, 496RC2 Midi Ball Head, 498RC2 Midi Ball Head, 498RC4 Midi Ball Head, 804RC2 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head, 808RC4 3-Way Pan/Tilt Head, and the 054 Q2 Magnesium Ball Head Deluxe Kit!

All of these heads, are Manfrotto heads, being sold, with the Manfrotto Tripod Legs, # MT055XPRO4, for between, $420. and $560.

I'm asking, what are the differences, between these various Tripod Heads? How would a knowledgeable Photographer, make a selection, from among all of these, various types, and models, of Tripod Heads? They must each, have their own strengths, and weaknesses, in their individual usages.

Is there any one out there, who understands, what the differences between these various Manfrotto Tripod Head model's are? Can you provide me, with advice, in selecting the best one, for my own, individual purposes, and to get the maximum enjoyment, from it?

I only know about Tripods; that I need, great stability, load carrying ability, and light weight, and that there is both pan/tilt, and ball head.

I would really greatly appreciate, any relevant information, even if of a broad and general nature, regarding these types of Tripod Heads and there best uses; that anyone, can contribute, toward these questions; to aid me, in making a wise decision!

Thank you, very much, for your assistance and your best advice!!!

I presently, only know the difference, between the ball, and the pan and tilt, but not even which each is best suited for!

Merry Christmas to ALL!!!

Rob. :)
Hello, everyone! I'm now shopping for a good, sol... (show quote)

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Dec 10, 2015 18:45:01   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
outdoorphotoman wrote:
PS If you do not shoot a lot of video I would get a ball head.
The ball head that comes with the tripod is great. It Will support more than the legs. (About 60#) Check B&H, Adorama and your local camera store. I've owned a few tripods and this one should last me another 20 years. I'm sure one of these will suit all your photographic needs. No I don't sell these I just like them. I've used a lot and this tripod is the best all around tripod I have ever used.
Bob


at $459 you should like them !

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Dec 11, 2015 11:32:30   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
[quote=CO]Your $450 to $550 price range will allow you to get a carbon fiber model. Take a look at the 055 series carbon fiber Manfrotto models. Not only is carbon fiber lighter than aluminum but it dampens vibration better than aluminum. Camera Labs did vibration testing on aluminum and carbon fiber 190 and 055 series Manfrotto tripods. Scroll down to the vibration results section at this website.
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Manfrotto_190XPROB_tripod/

I prefer pan/tilt head for landscape photography. I got the new MHXPRO-3W 3-way head. It's precisely machined from aluminum and has no looseness anywhere. It has adjustable friction on the front/back and side to side tilt. The handles can be pushed in to make it more compact. It also has three levels.[/quote

Thank you! That's an excellent review, and very telling, regarding the advantage of carbon fiber. There is such a great world of information, available to us, in the "World of Photography," and equipment, today, with the Internet, isn't it wonderful? How we can so thoroughly, research, each, and every product, in such minute detail, to get just what we truly desire, and best meets our personal needs. That is, an excellent tripod for it's cost!

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Dec 11, 2015 11:38:55   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Since you are not doing sports or BIF, solid and stable is what you are looking for. You do not need a set up designed for rapid changes or your set up. I think a solid pan/tilt is going to be fine for you. However, I currently use a Manfrotto Joystick (which is really a ball head) that I like quite a bit. Just squeezing and adjusting without having to deal with the two handles on the pan/tilt works for me

Keep an eye on B&H daily deals and holiday specials. A good tripod deal comes up frequently.
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Thanks for the pricing information; and your opinion re pan/tilt!

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Dec 11, 2015 11:41:08   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
If there was a "best" one, everyone would have it. Gear & uses will determine which type will suit your needs... IMHO Pan & Tilt versions are best suited for video use...


Well, that opinion, is just what I was seeking!!!

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Dec 11, 2015 12:06:19   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
BIG ROB wrote:
CO wrote:
Your $450 to $550 price range will allow you to get a carbon fiber model. Take a look at the 055 series carbon fiber Manfrotto models. Not only is carbon fiber lighter than aluminum but it dampens vibration better than aluminum. Camera Labs did vibration testing on aluminum and carbon fiber 190 and 055 series Manfrotto tripods. Scroll down to the vibration results section at this website.
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Manfrotto_190XPROB_tripod/

I prefer pan/tilt head for landscape photography. I got the new MHXPRO-3W 3-way head. It's precisely machined from aluminum and has no looseness anywhere. It has adjustable friction on the front/back and side to side tilt. The handles can be pushed in to make it more compact. It also has three levels.
Your $450 to $550 price range will allow you to ge... (show quote)


Thank you! That's an excellent review, and very telling, regarding the advantage of carbon fiber. There is such a great world of information, available to us, in the "World of Photography," and equipment, today, with the Internet, isn't it wonderful? How we can so thoroughly, research, each, and every product, in such minute detail, to get just what we truly desire, and best meets our personal needs. That is, an excellent tripod for it's cost!
quote=CO Your $450 to $550 price range will allow... (show quote)


In general, stiff composite materials (like carbon fiber tubes) damp high frequency vibrations better than uniform materials (like metal tubes) because composites are made up of at least two different substances, the 'matrix'; which is usually some kind of resin, and one or more kinds of fibrous materials (commonly silica-- glass-- fibers and or carbon-- graphitic tubule-- fibers); each of which has a different 'speed of sound'. This nonuniformity smears out sound and other vibration waves and eventually attenuates them.

Carbon Fiber is enough less elastic than pretty much any metal that would be used for structural purposes that it, and enough stiffer relative to its weight that a given CF tube will tend to try to vibrate at higher frequencies than an equivalent-sized metal tube-- which get damped by the effect described in my first paragraph.

There's a reason that you see wind chimes made of lengths of metal tube all the time, but you won't see any made of CF any time soon.

BTW, the strongest materials used structurally by plants and animals-- wood, bone, tooth enamel, and the various materials used for shells, scales, and the like, and the tensile structures used by kelp are all composites.

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Dec 11, 2015 23:38:27   #
CO
 
rocketride wrote:
In general, stiff composite materials (like carbon fiber tubes) damp high frequency vibrations better than uniform materials (like metal tubes) because composites are made up of at least two different substances, the 'matrix'; which is usually some kind of resin, and one or more kinds of fibrous materials (commonly silica-- glass-- fibers and or carbon-- graphitic tubule-- fibers); each of which has a different 'speed of sound'. This nonuniformity smears out sound and other vibration waves and eventually attenuates them.

Carbon Fiber is enough less elastic than pretty much any metal that would be used for structural purposes that it, and enough stiffer relative to its weight that a given CF tube will tend to try to vibrate at higher frequencies than an equivalent-sized metal tube-- which get damped by the effect described in my first paragraph.

There's a reason that you see wind chimes made of lengths of metal tube all the time, but you won't see any made of CF any time soon.

BTW, the strongest materials used structurally by plants and animals-- wood, bone, tooth enamel, and the various materials used for shells, scales, and the like, and the tensile structures used by kelp are all composites.
In general, stiff composite materials (like carbon... (show quote)


Excellent description of the differences of the materials.

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Dec 14, 2015 00:39:30   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
CO wrote:
Excellent description of the differences of the materials.


Thanks.

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