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Nov 27, 2015 06:29:09   #
HEALS3113 Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
 
I am noticing pictures I have printed out that have any shade of blue in them become darker and more vivid after some time. Why would this happen and how do I prevent it.

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Nov 27, 2015 06:37:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
HEALS3113 wrote:
I am noticing pictures I have printed out that have any shade of blue in them become darker and more vivid after some time. Why would this happen and how do I prevent it.

What brand of printer, ink, and paper? I could have something to do with the settings you use to do the printing. How much time are you talking about?

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Nov 27, 2015 07:13:54   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Perhaps some additional info and a sample?

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Nov 28, 2015 11:16:03   #
Yooper 2 Loc: Ironwood, MI
 
How old is your printer? The older inks would turn blue when exposed to UV light for several years. The new inks are supposed to stay true to color for at least 80 years. Best to use Canon inks, Epson inks, etc. and not after market inks for prints you intend to last for years. Also, framing prints with glass helps prevent bluing.

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Nov 28, 2015 11:42:18   #
Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ
 
It is not that the blue (cyan) gets darker, at least I think so, but that magenta and yellow fade from UV exposure. Some of the newer inks survive much longer.

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Nov 28, 2015 13:53:38   #
Yooper 2 Loc: Ironwood, MI
 
Tjohn wrote:
It is not that the blue (cyan) gets darker, at least I think so, but that magenta and yellow fade from UV exposure. Some of the newer inks survive much longer.


I worked for a photographer for several years. I think you're right. In those days it was blamed on light exposure.

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Dec 2, 2015 06:31:05   #
HEALS3113 Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
 
I have a cannon printer and use HP printer semi gloss paper. Primarily because I got a good deal on the paper. Ink is new and length of time from print out to noticeable changes in approx 2 months. I didn't think the brand of paper was that big of a deal. I can look for cannon paper and see if that makes any difference.
Thank you.

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Dec 2, 2015 07:19:19   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
HEALS3113 wrote:
I have a cannon printer and use HP printer semi gloss paper. Primarily because I got a good deal on the paper. Ink is new and length of time from print out to noticeable changes in approx 2 months. I didn't think the brand of paper was that big of a deal. I can look for cannon paper and see if that makes any difference.
Thank you.


"The most important reasons for using pigment inks are archival print life and color stability. The dye inks used in most early inkjet printers exhibited signs of fading or shifts in color after a short period of time (as quickly as days, in some cases). As a result, the graphic art and fine art markets turned to pigment inks. Pigment inks are much more stable and can last more than 200 years on some paper types."

http://www.macworld.com/article/1054216/inktype.html

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Dec 2, 2015 21:55:43   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
HEALS3113 wrote:
I have a cannon printer and use HP printer semi gloss paper. Primarily because I got a good deal on the paper. Ink is new and length of time from print out to noticeable changes in approx 2 months. I didn't think the brand of paper was that big of a deal. I can look for cannon paper and see if that makes any difference.
Thank you.


Print life is usually dramatically improved when you use the same brand of printer, ink, and paper. Printer manufacturers go to great effort to make sure their prints last as long as possible. They even provide charts to show which of their papers and inks last the longest. So mixing and matching for price isn't a good idea in most cases. Each brand also has standard "general" paper, matte finish paper, glossy paper, premium glossy paper, archival paper, and so on. If you bought paper for cheap price alone you've done yourself a disservice. You'll probably need to start over and do it right with the right materials the next time. Luckily your digital files you printed from do not deteriorate in the same way.

Unless you're displaying them in direct sunlight without UV protection glass of a frame in front of them, prints should stay somewhat the same for about 25 years, not 2 months. I've got some prints from my Epson wide-carriage home printer, using Epson paper, and Epson ink that have been in my file cabinet drawer for 7 years so far and they haven't changed an iota. I have at least 25 prints up to 8X10 displayed on my walls, but not in direct sunlight, which are 3 to 8 years old and they haven't changed at all either. Just like newly printed.

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Dec 6, 2015 20:51:46   #
HEALS3113 Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
 
Thank you. I will look for cannon photo paper and try that.

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Dec 6, 2015 22:27:29   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
HEALS3113 wrote:
Thank you. I will look for cannon photo paper and try that.


Look for Canon paper instead. Cannon makes towels. :shock:

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Dec 6, 2015 23:06:50   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
marcomarks wrote:
Look for Canon paper instead. Cannon makes towels. :shock:


:thumbup:

Cannon mills went belly up years ago. They are a marketing company now. Kannapolis (NC) has really struggled with the loss.

A Canon is a camera, a canon is a song or poem or a rule or standard.

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Dec 6, 2015 23:28:36   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
burkphoto wrote:
:thumbup:

Cannon mills went belly up years ago. They are a marketing company now. Kannapolis (NC) has really struggled with the loss.

A Canon is a camera, a canon is a song or poem or a rule or standard.


This is true. Okay, they have towels made for them. How's that?

I was surprised to see the Curtis-Mathis name on some radios a couple years back. Imagine what a small puckered up marketing company that must be after the shame and defeat of proudly proclaiming themselves to be the last remaining TV manufacturing company in the U.S. manufacturing premium quality products at prices that weren't cheap - just before they reamed all their employees and shut down. And we can't ever forget Zenith, RCA, Phillips, and all the other current con artists pretending to be something they aren't.

The bible, a collection of writings by many, is also considered a canon although not because it's poems, songs, rules or standards. It's a collection.

While a cannon is also a now-defunct, and quite inaccurate, weapon of mass destruction. Oh-oh... that might cause the Obama anti-gun squad to invade all the civil war monuments and confiscate them! :x

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Dec 7, 2015 18:46:29   #
HEALS3113 Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
 
HA HA, should have checked my spelling before sending.

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Dec 7, 2015 22:09:14   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
HEALS3113 wrote:
HA HA, should have checked my spelling before sending.


No problem. It's done on here hundreds and hundreds of times! I just like to stick a little jab in occasionally when I see it.

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