Watermarks
Nov 30, 2015 10:58:37 #
TheDman wrote:
But they're so annoying! When I open a book I want to start reading the book, not flip through a half dozen pages of credits!
Ahhh yes, and on second thought, these extra pages are not stopping you from stealing the books from the library, nor Joe Biden and his ilk, from plagiarizing. And I thought you were a genius!
Nov 30, 2015 12:01:14 #
quixdraw wrote:
"Who steals my purse steals trash...." The Bard
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Nov 30, 2015 12:21:47 #
So how do you copyright an image right on my camera?
Szalajj wrote:
Start by copyrighting in your images right on your... (show quote)
Nov 30, 2015 12:24:18 #
PalePictures wrote:
Most all of the really good photographers/image cr... (show quote)
PalePictures,... I agree with you 100% I was just thinking of all the great photographers from the past that never watermarked their work yet they were still successful photographers. Personally, I don't mind seeing a watermarked photo and just ignore the mark and enjoy the persons work.
Nov 30, 2015 12:55:16 #
quixdraw wrote:
"Who steals my purse steals trash...." The Bard
But finish the quote : But he that filches from me my good name
robs me of that which not enriches him, and makes me poor indeed.
Nov 30, 2015 13:39:56 #
I assumed that the OP was referring to large watermarks that try to thwart copying by obscuring the photo. I find nothing wrong with a small copyright notice at the bottom of photos.
In my business - real estate photography - it is standard and considered necessary to remind and educate RE agents that don't have a clue about copyright law.
In my business - real estate photography - it is standard and considered necessary to remind and educate RE agents that don't have a clue about copyright law.
Nov 30, 2015 13:45:04 #
Dick Z. wrote:
PalePictures,... I agree with you 100% I was just thinking of all the great photographers from the past that never watermarked their work yet they were still successful photographers. Personally, I don't mind seeing a watermarked photo and just ignore the mark and enjoy the persons work.
Well... The only way to steal the work of "the great photographers from the past" was to rip their prints off the gallery walls and/or rob their darkrooms. It's not only easy to steal now, it's part of the Internet culture.
Nov 30, 2015 14:08:11 #
mallen1330 wrote:
I assumed that the OP was referring to large watermarks that try to thwart copying by obscuring the photo. I find nothing wrong with a small copyright notice at the bottom of photos.
In my business - real estate photography - it is standard and considered necessary to remind and educate RE agents that don't have a clue about copyright law.
In my business - real estate photography - it is standard and considered necessary to remind and educate RE agents that don't have a clue about copyright law.
In the business world, like you are in, I would assume that your watermark is more of an advertisement to other real estate agents rather than an anti-thief precaution. No?
As a Real Estate Agent who would hire you to photograph my listings, I doubt if I want my clients or potential buyer to know your name. I suspect I would only want them, the viewers of your photos I am paying for to see the WOW images, and my, the Agent's, name. So, correct me if I am wrong, but if any watermark would be applied to a property photograph the I have paid for, I suspect it would be limited to MY name, address, phone number, or maybe the property address. Am I wrong?
Also, I am willing to wager you go thru great efforts to keep your watermark as non-intrusive and "classy" as possible. Have you perused some of the watermarks here in UHH? Hell, NOAH should have had that much ugly water on his ark!
Nov 30, 2015 14:37:18 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
UXOEOD wrote:
I have noticed quite a few of the steady posters h... (show quote)
I put very few images online WITHOUT a watermark. It's done to protect my copyright against theft and reduce misuse of my images. Doesn't stop it entirely, of course... but makes it more difficult for anyone who thinks anything they find on the Internet is free for the taking.
If you don't care that other people are claiming and using your images for whatever they want to do with them, don't watermark. I make a living taking photos, so I do what I can to protect them.
Nov 30, 2015 15:22:33 #
UXOEOD wrote:
In the business world, like you are in, I would assume that your watermark is more of an advertisement to other real estate agents rather than an anti-thief precaution. No?
No. It has my company name-- see example. All the cheap "shoot and run" RE photo companies, like VHT for example, all-ways include their CW notice.
UXOEOD wrote:
Also, I am willing to wager you go thru great efforts to keep your watermark as non-intrusive and "classy" as possible.
Yep!
Nov 30, 2015 15:29:30 #
UXOEOD wrote:
So, correct me if I am wrong, but if any watermark would be applied to a property photograph the I have paid for, I suspect it would be limited to MY name, address, phone number, or maybe the property address. Am I wrong?
Yes. The photographer retains all rights to the images unless they formally assign and sell all rights to you - which no professional photographer would do without a hefty fee. So the copyright notice cannot be your name, etc.
Also, as an agent you cannot have your name or contact info on the property photos, since that would violate most MLS rules against "branding".
Nov 30, 2015 15:40:28 #
UXOEOD wrote:
In the business world, like you are in, I would assume that your watermark is more of an advertisement to other real estate agents rather than an anti-thief precaution. No?
No, and No. I'm not too concerned with theft of my real estate photos. If an agent uses my photos without authorization, I have several ways to stop it -- through the MLS or the licensing board.
No, I add the copyright notice mainly to counter the MLS rules that falsely state that ALL photos are THEIR property! Many MLS boards (including mine in Chicago) are in the process of fixing the language in their rule docs.
Also the NAR has recently jumped in with http://www.realtor.org/law-and-ethics/who-owns-your-property-photos -- there is a long and reasoned discussion of this on the Photography for Real Estate blog - here:
http://photographyforrealestate.net/2015/11/26/great-news-nar-is-finally-educating-realtors-about-listing-photo-copyright-law/
Nov 30, 2015 15:50:29 #
mallen1330 wrote:
Yep!
Mallen1330,
I, for one, think that your watermark is very tastefully done and not particularly visible. Had I not been looking for it, as a result of this thread, I probably would not have seen it. :thumbup:
Nov 30, 2015 16:43:24 #
mallen1330 wrote:
No, and No. I'm not too concerned with theft of my... (show quote)
Thank you. Well spoken, logical, informative replies. I appreciate it.
Nov 30, 2015 19:14:37 #
Szalajj
Loc: Salem, NH
Huey Driver wrote:
So how do you copyright an image right on my camera?
You copyright an image on your own camera through your menu settings.
Each DSLR manufacturer will have a different menu item to use for this purpose.
You will need to check your users manual for the instructions for your specific camera make and model.
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