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Nov 28, 2015 23:54:57   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
DJO wrote:
I'll post this one more time.

There's an old saying in photography: "Anyone can learn to use a camera, but you can't teach someone how to see."


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Nov 29, 2015 00:33:58   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
No one should feel down about being "at the bottom." That's where we all started. Lots of experience and a lot of shots that you hate will steadily make you better. At some point you will get an image that will surprise you and others with it's inspiration. Then over time there will be more.

Some basic advice given me along the way by some great photographers:
> Look at all four corners of your image just before you shoot. Do you have everything you want, with no extra sky, earth, or other junk?
> Is the composition compelling? Sometimes a small adjustment can make a big difference. > Get a tripod, and use it when needed.
> If no tripod, is your shutter speed set high enough to avoid motion blur from camera shake, especially if you are zoomed in? If you can't use a higher shutter speed, there are a few "tricks" to avoid camera shake: brace the back or side of your body against a solid object like a wall, and pull the camera into your face so your head steadies it. Pull your elbows into your sides and lock your forearms to add even more stability. You are now the human tripod. I have successfully shot with this technique as low as 1/4 second.
> For portraits, get in close; avoid distracting elements. Watch out for what may be going on in the background.
> Try out the "rule of thirds," until you're ready to break it, as we all do.

There is a ton of material online about every phase of photography. Take advantage of it. FYI, I shoot with a relatively rare early 2000s vintage Kodak "DSLR," 8mp with a fantastic but non-interchangeable Zeiss zoom lens. They were only made for a short time, and I have two of them. I also use telephoto, wide angle, and fisheye front-end lens adapters, which I'm sure would be frowned upon by many photographers here. They work for me.

As the old joke goes, a tourist in New York City looking for directions goes up to an old man born and raised in Manhattan and asks,"Can you tell me how to get to Carnegie Hall?" The old man replies,"Practice, my boy, practice!"

Best of luck. Keep at it!

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Nov 29, 2015 00:40:36   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
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tdekany wrote:
I am at the bottom as well, I am a snap shooter, that is why I feel ok "putting down" others on my level - if I was good at it I'd never do such thing.
Anyone with a license is a driver. Just like anyone with a camera is a photographer. But you don"t feel that we are all on the same level/skill do you?

So as you said yourself: We're not all pro's, or even advanced amateurs - in my book, if you are not part of those 2 groups, you are a snap shooter.

Do you feel bad because you are called a driver and not a race car driver? I would think not.

Look up member Mark7829's pictures here - he is in the top tier. Now google pictures for "Golden Gate Bridge" and compare those to his. I can''t make it any clearer.
I am at the bottom as well, I am a snap shooter, t... (show quote)


Nope, we definitely are not all in the same bracket, for sure. I jokingly told my grandson that he takes photographs and I just take pictures. I am very proud of him. He's good, now, and he just keeps getting better. In fact, he aspires to make the move up from his D90 to either a D750 or D810.

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Nov 29, 2015 00:47:16   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Far North wrote:
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Nope, we definitely are not all in the same bracket, for sure. I jokingly told my grandson that he takes photographs and I just take pictures. I am very proud of him. He's good, now, and he just keeps getting better. In fact, he aspires to make the move up from his D90 to either a D750 or D810.


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Any pictures from your GS?

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Nov 29, 2015 00:54:48   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
tdekany wrote:
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Any pictures from your GS?


I'll have have him email me some. He lives in Texas.

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Nov 29, 2015 01:01:19   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Far North wrote:
I'll have have him email me some. He lives in Texas.


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Nov 29, 2015 03:26:09   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
tdekany wrote:
She is a regular on fredmiranda.com, but please don't make the mistake thinking that it is about PP - her in camera shots are already better than what you and I could ever dream of creating.

I guess she doesn't know what Ron knows.


Not to diminish her in any way but in camera images. Come on...

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Nov 29, 2015 08:13:20   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
rmalarz wrote:
Please, explain how manually focusing limits one's horizons.
--Bob


If I had the eyes I had in my 30's when I did manual focus, I'd be tempted to do it today, especially on stationary subjects. BATD, in sports, you had to anticipate where the action would be, focus and wait for the action. That even included your kids running in the park. A good eye can focus for the scene as good or better than AF, although some of the new AF (Group Area Mode AF) is getting pretty tight.

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Nov 29, 2015 08:23:30   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
SteveR wrote:
If I had the eyes I had in my 30's when I did manual focus, I'd be tempted to do it today, especially on stationary subjects. BATD, in sports, you had to anticipate where the action would be, focus and wait for the action. That even included your kids running in the park. A good eye can focus for the scene as good or better than AF, although some of the new AF (Group Area Mode AF) is getting pretty tight.


There are times when manual focus just does not cut it even with perfect vision.

Some time ago I was using a Nikon 500mm f4 P lens for my bird shots. It produced remarkable images when I nailed it but the birds move so quickly the keeper rate was low. I eventually sold it to finance other photo equipment purchases.

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Nov 29, 2015 08:35:34   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
joer wrote:
There are times when manual focus just does not cut it even with perfect vision.

Some time ago I was using a Nikon 500mm f4 P lens for my bird shots. It produced remarkable images when I nailed it but the birds move so quickly the keeper rate was low. I eventually sold it to finance other photo equipment purchases.


joer....I'll have to agree with you on that one.....bif would be awfully tough to manually focus. I would think, too, that the Group Area Auto Mode would help significantly with bif.

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Nov 29, 2015 10:27:01   #
Jim Bob
 
Mark7829 wrote:
I though so as well but I find that even small images can not escape scrutiny. Under the view of a knowledgeable photographer, noise, blur and other issues will still appear. Now if you print at the size of a postage stamp, I would agree. But flaws in a 5 x 7 are still viable to the trained eye. But in these forums, there is mostly the untrained and inexperienced. Just look at what others are posting and most replies are good shot!!! Blah .....


A trained eye with a maginifying glass at 5 x 7.

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Nov 29, 2015 10:30:47   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
I dunno, I sure do appreciate auto focus, but back in the day before there was such a thing, manual was all we had. It seemed to work for me. It had to, there wasn't anything else unless one wanted to use a camera with a fixed focus lens. Auto focus has certainly made things easier, allowing the photographer to concentrate on composing the shot and letting the camera do the focusing and/or other chores that used to all be done manually. Perhaps we've gotten a little lazy with all the auto features. But I wouldn't give up auto focus, no sir.

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Nov 29, 2015 12:02:00   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
joer wrote:
Not to diminish her in any way but in camera images. Come on...


Joe - meaning substance

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Nov 29, 2015 12:03:31   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
tdekany wrote:
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Any pictures from your GS?


Here's his latest. I have no technical info for it, though.

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Nov 29, 2015 12:23:47   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Far North wrote:
Here's his latest. I have no technical info for it, though.


I like it :thumbup:

I wouldn't give up AF either but there are situations when manual focus is better. An example would be macro/micro photography.

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