SqBear
Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
John_F wrote:
To check the bellows; extend the front all the way, take of the back, and shine a bright flashlight inside and be in a darkened room. Watch for pinhole light leaks along the creases.
Thanks John_F, I'll check this out!
If there are any pinholes in the bellows, what is a good fix for them?
Thanks again
Dave
SqBear
Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
Thanks for the reply and the Ebay link too. I just looked at Ebay (your link) and did not see a "pocket" camera with the bubble beside the view finder? Perhaps an add on after purchase?
To be "Pocket Camera" This weighs just under 2.5 lbs!
Thanks again!
Dave
SqBear wrote:
Thanks PixelStan77.
I'll check out the link for B&W Film, can I assume that the film is 120? I do not have a take-up spool in the camera, perhaps should inquire about that too.?
Thanks again!
Dave
It probably takes 116 size film. 116 size film is a bit wider than the 120 film. The film size needed may be printed on the inside of the back. good luck
SqBear wrote:
Bought this at a grage sale eariler in the year....
Really, what i am asking is is "rare" and is it valuable?
The shutter seems to be operating OK, the slide is OK, just a bit sticky perhaps, but works. The bellows appear to be in good shape, no leaks or holes or tears.
Photo 2 & 3 the view finder... the cover does open and function properlt. I do not know what the small "cup" beside the view finder is. It appears o have a small bb that would cover a pin hole in the bottom .. perhaps if it were level? however, I cannot get the bb to move around in the cup continer.
There are three patent dates stamped inside the back cover; December 8, 1898, October 8, 1901 and January 21, 1902.
Have not done any research as i felt you guys would have a pretty good idea if pursuit needs to be advanced.
Thanks!!
Bought this at a grage sale eariler in the year...... (
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There were several versions of the Kodak 3A, yours is a variant of the Model B-2, see
Scott's Photographica Collection. Forgo any thought of trying it out as these cameras used
Kodak 122 film, a long-discontinued large format roll film. Best thing to do is just spruce it up a bit -- you can get some handy tips in this regard at
Cleaning and Restoring Vintage Cameras -- and keep it as a conversation piece. These cameras are neither rare nor particularly valuable but in their day were top of the line Kodaks in their class and quite handsome actually.
(BTW, there is a similar B-2
on eBay right now and as Im writing this, bidding stands at $72.00US [26 bids]. )
I have one of these 1920's Cameras - A German make that my wifes family bought in China while serving as Missionaries there -1876-1928 it uses 120 film - every once in a while I run a loll throu it - easy to use manual settings.
Try it - you will like the challenge.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I've got a similar one except mine has two timer cylinders in front.
As said they are not that rare but really neat to have in a collection. They run around 25 to 100 bucks (US) now days. That depends on whatever goodies were included when origionally purchased.
One great thing is the ability to use it as a tilt-shift camera.
They made several models of nearly the same thing. That will determine the present value of it. The biggest problem is that it is VERY difficult to tell a fancy model from an average one.
One "help" is to open the back cover. The basic model/type should be listed there.
Another thing is the cover material on the body, different kinds of cloth or leather.
Another way is whatever goodies were put on the lens/shutter mechanism.
Someone told me they offered modifications to accept different size films.
When you look them up, good luck determining what model you have. From what I found out, just about every site that claims to have "the real thing". Actually it's just another style of the basic model.
*(Sort of looking up genealogy. Few people named Smith really know if another John Smith is really a relitives or not.) LoL
SqBear wrote:
Thanks for the reply and unique information about the F stop numbers. I did not know this.
Can the "bubble" be refilled by an expert? What should I do or ask before a re-fill, if it can be refilled?
Thanks again!
Dave
Thanks for the reply. You would probably do irreparable harm to the bubble level trying to refill it. The simple little viewfinder on that camera made it difficult to get it level, so the bubble device was needed.
As for the U.S. aperture numbers -
US 4 = F/8
US 8 = F/11
US 16 = F/16
US 32 = F/22
US 64 = F/32
SqBear wrote:
Thanks rjaywallace for the reply.
Don't know... i'll see if i can get some film and try it.
And I will check out Google and Wikipedia too!
Dave
If memory serves me, that camera took 122 film, larger than 120. Kodak was still making 122 up into the 1950s, but it has long since been discontinued.
Looking at your pictures where you used what looks like slide film containers under the camera to hold it up in front, I think mine has a little prop stand at the end of the bottom portion that holds the camera level. I'll have to find it and check it out one day. (Camera's in storage right now.)
GENorkus wrote:
Looking at your pictures where you used what looks like slide film containers under the camera to hold it up in front, I think mine has a little prop stand at the end of the bottom portion that holds the camera level. I'll have to find it and check it out one day. (Camera's in storage right now.)
My stand gizmo got broken off - been a long time it may have used 122 rather than 120. Mine too is in storage LOL
Beard43
Loc: End of the Oregon Trail
I have two of those. One is an Autographic. It has a carry case also. Both are in good condition.
Ron
SqBear
Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
GC-FineArt wrote:
There were several versions of the Kodak 3A, yours is a variant of the Model B-2, see
Scott's Photographica Collection. Forgo any thought of trying it out as these cameras used
Kodak 122 film, a long-discontinued large format roll film. Best thing to do is just spruce it up a bit -- you can get some handy tips in this regard at
Cleaning and Restoring Vintage Cameras -- and keep it as a conversation piece. These cameras are neither rare nor particularly valuable but in their day were top of the line Kodaks in their class and quite handsome actually.
(BTW, there is a similar B-2
on eBay right now and as Im writing this, bidding stands at $72.00US [26 bids]. )
There were several versions of the Kodak 3A, yours... (
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Thanks for the reply GC-FineArt ! And for the links and information too. Very interesting reading. The inside back cover states that the camera is a Model B-3 and this was noted in one of the articles you sent through the link. Looks like they made bunches of various models. You are right, there are many advertised on Ebay as well for rather small prices too, IF they sell that is.
Definitely going to follow the link for cleaning restoring, although I'm not sure about the restore part, definitely the cleaning areas.
Still, an interesting camera and one to put in a curio type cabinet.
Thanks again for the information!
Dave
SqBear
Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
Harvey wrote:
I have one of these 1920's Cameras - A German make that my wifes family bought in China while serving as Missionaries there -1876-1928 it uses 120 film - every once in a while I run a loll throu it - easy to use manual settings.
Try it - you will like the challenge.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Time will tell Harvey.
Thanks for the info too. Although the back does not tell what size film it is supposed to use. And I cannot see where a size is indicated on the front of the camera either.
Thanks
Dave
SqBear
Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
GENorkus wrote:
I've got a similar one except mine has two timer cylinders in front.
As said they are not that rare but really neat to have in a collection. They run around 25 to 100 bucks (US) now days. That depends on whatever goodies were included when origionally purchased.
One great thing is the ability to use it as a tilt-shift camera.
They made several models of nearly the same thing. That will determine the present value of it. The biggest problem is that it is VERY difficult to tell a fancy model from an average one.
One "help" is to open the back cover. The basic model/type should be listed there.
Another thing is the cover material on the body, different kinds of cloth or leather.
Another way is whatever goodies were put on the lens/shutter mechanism.
Someone told me they offered modifications to accept different size films.
When you look them up, good luck determining what model you have. From what I found out, just about every site that claims to have "the real thing". Actually it's just another style of the basic model.
*(Sort of looking up genealogy. Few people named Smith really know if another John Smith is really a relitives or not.) LoL
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Thanks GENorkus for the information.
I wish the camera had a serial number on it...somewhere.
I do see what I would call an owner of the camera, at one time at least as he printed his name inside the film holder; FH Gambell or FH Gambelli from Willows, CA.
And again it is stamped as a 3-A Folding Pocket Camera, Model B-3. The film area is a pretty hefty size and I bet it is the 122 size as well. Don't see an modifications, etc. that would look like it would take 120 size film either.
The little "gizmo" stand is on this one...did not know what it was for. Now that I know, it is actually more level than the two decks of Casino cards that I used to "level" it with!
The cover is brown leather and for the age, I would say it is in rather good shape, no scars, tears or gouges.
But, as many say in here; it makes a good display camera.
Thanks!
Dave
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