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Sep 22, 2015 12:17:09   #
mackolb
 
One more thing . . . how many outraged critics have made the same arguments against Nikon, Canon and others for upgrading their image sensors to deliver more pixels and lower noise at higher ISO settings?
And the cost for those upgrades which seem to be embraced by digital photographers with shameless appreciation is unparalleled. The older models still work, but the newer models offer more speed and quality.
Lest we forget that progress has its cost, many Ford Model A and Edsel as well as my original 1969 BMW 2002 are still on the road, satisfying those who use them. But comfort, economy, speed and overall performance come at a price many seem to value.
These arguments/criticisms seldom are as great as those leveled at the most valued and valuable company in the world whose products generally don't leave users behind "in the dust bin of history," but continue to deliver more ways to do things not possible before 1984.

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Sep 22, 2015 12:27:40   #
mackolb
 
Certainly not meant to be perceived as "anti-" anything. Merely sharing a P.OV. based on more than 31 years of both defensive interactions with those who never tried but simply resisted, as well as those who decided to try, fall in love and never look back.

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Sep 22, 2015 13:14:49   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
mackolb wrote:
With love and respect for others like me who have been using Macs for many years, the simple fact is that once Apple decided to abandon 32-bit architecture in favor of a more robust and capable 64-bit operating system, the only significant change was the abandonment of 32-bit software. The underlying library for Aperture needed updating by the OS and once complete, will do everything you expect it to do. Aperture is no longer available for purchase, but it still works and will continue to do so for as long as you use it. And Photos goes way beyond what iPhoto could go, including support for libraries that exceed 10,000 images, something that's happening now with the use of digital cameras. Not just iPhones, but Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Olympus, Leaf, and more. We capture more moments because the film is free and being able to manage large libraries comes at the small price of adapting to new ways of seeing them.
The observer's comment about buying a new Mac every five years certainly ought to resonate with those whose PCs last for three and will not run the most recent MS OS. My 2008 MacPro and my 2012 MacBook Pro Retina continue to run all of my software except MS Office 2004. Office 2008 and beyond work just fine. FCP 7 and FCP X work beautifully and the only reason I've moved from 7 -> X is that FCP X is faster, easier to control with frame-level accuracy and filled with all the extensible plugins that are available for Premiere.
Oh, one more thing. Apple doesn't charge for its upgrades! The Mac OS upgrades since Snow Leopard have been free and each update of FCP X has been free once you purchase for $299.
Where do MS and Adobe fit in that upgrade price structure?
Apple is very much into helping the customer leverage of their hardware purchases with ongoing upgrades/updates to assure speed, reliability, memory-management, power-management, safety/security, and overall performance. The only price the user pays for these features is the need to adapt.
If you hate adapting to take advantage of these features and more, then stick with the Commodore 64 or Atari, or IBM PC or Peanut running DOS.
This is not a flame; just a statement from an unapologetic Mac-a-holic since February 1984 who left DOS to create and work, not to "tweet the bios" to run faster. And, in the interest of full disclosure, I am an Apple employee who trains people in the integration and use of Apple products and software to enrich their lives and creative endeavors in photography and video. I love helping Windows -> Mac switchers, many in their 50s and 60s and older, discover the magic and hear them say: "I don't know why I waited so long - this is amazing!"
Taylor Swift: "Haters gonna hate."
With love and respect for others like me who have ... (show quote)



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I agree with everything you say.
Apple Customer Service is about 187 Gabazillion light years better than MS. The One-To-One, on line and telephone help is exceptional.
Apple machines are a little different than windows machines, but the learning curve isn't that great.

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Sep 22, 2015 14:39:52   #
azphotobug Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona
 
SoShootMe wrote:
I just upgraded to Yosemite, apple's new os for my imac. Now my Aperture won't open--says it needs to be upgraded in the App store, which App store says it is no longer available. I sort of understand Apple deciding to deep six a fine program they have decided not to continue to support. But to make it unworkable on the new system seems shortsighted and quite frankly a pain in the pocketbook. I am converting all my aperture files to lightroom, but there are things I would still do in Aperture that are superior to Lightroom. So a warning to all hogs--if you want to continue to use Aperture, don't upgrade to Yosemite---unless I'm missing something.
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Another problem is : If you want to use LR 6 then you must have Yosemite. LR 6 will not work in previous OS systems. I had LR 5.6 and was perfectly happy but advised to upgrade to LR 6. I didn't know that I would have to upgrade my iMac's OS system. Good advice to check what you will lose if one upgrades. It may not be worth it to do so. But Apple's telephone Apple care is w/o peer. Their advisors are terrific and will spend whatever time it takes to help you.

:D :-D

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Sep 22, 2015 15:34:15   #
n64uw
 
As an Apple owner, both product and stock, since 1982 and 1984, I am a devotee. I had Aperture, which was a nice addition to iPhoto. Yet, I recommend Lightroom as your next step in processing. I grieve the appearance of Photos...waste of effort.

W. Stewart Tittle

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Sep 22, 2015 15:50:24   #
SoShootMe Loc: Batavia, NY
 
TLConner wrote:
I have Yosemite 10.10.5 and my Aperture 3.6 opens and works just fine. So maybe you did miss something although I have not done anything special that I recall.

Ahhh. Mine is 3.5.1. Now I'll have to see if I can upgrade that to 3.6, if the gods smile on me today. Best wishes and thanks for the help.

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Sep 22, 2015 15:57:28   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
one good reason not to buy apple.

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Sep 22, 2015 17:14:30   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
This aperture issue can be tackled in a few ways. first there are ways to fool yosemite to run some programs. Usually by replacing a file within the App contents. Google should help with that. I've seen fixes for iPhoto at least.

you might run mavericks or earlier in virtual box or split the hard drive with disk utility and dual boot mavericks and yosemite. OSX is pretty flexible and is capable of being installed and ran from a USB drive. You might find REFInd a useful tool as it gives you a boot choice on startup (easy to boot windows linux or OSX partitions).

It's a pain that Apple does this, but where this a will there is a way.
At least Apple will allow you to download programs that you've previously downloaded from them.

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Sep 23, 2015 01:19:59   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
SoShootMe wrote:
I just upgraded to Yosemite, apple's new os for my imac. Now my Aperture won't open--says it needs to be upgraded in the App store, which App store says it is no longer available. I sort of understand Apple deciding to deep six a fine program they have decided not to continue to support. But to make it unworkable on the new system seems shortsighted and quite frankly a pain in the pocketbook. I am converting all my aperture files to lightroom, but there are things I would still do in Aperture that are superior to Lightroom. So a warning to all hogs--if you want to continue to use Aperture, don't upgrade to Yosemite---unless I'm missing something.
I just upgraded to Yosemite, apple's new os for my... (show quote)


There was a Post almost identical to this on Sept 14 titled "iOS photos" by Effjayess. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-337023-1.html

Aperture still runs under Yosemite. You missed an Aperture update. Try this site:

https://support.apple.com/downloads/Aperture

Or this one

https://www.apple.com/support/osx/software-updates/

If it's not there, poke around, try contacting Apple via a chat or email. Try the Apple discussion site. Aperture still runs under Yosemite, I'd guess the software patch is still available you just need to find the link.

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Sep 23, 2015 12:45:31   #
SoShootMe Loc: Batavia, NY
 
[quote=JD750]There was a Post almost identical to this on Sept 14 titled "iOS photos" by Effjayess. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-337023-1.html

Thanks. My laptop has updated itself miraculously, but my iMac hasn't yet--still hopeful. I'll try your links and hope for the best. Looks like you are also shooting with a D750. Great camera. Now if I can only afford lenses.

Regards,
Glenn

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Sep 24, 2015 08:34:48   #
GEEJAY Loc: witness protection
 
A company came out with a software editing for mac.It is called affinity photo.very sophisticated.Similar to photo shop cc.$49.00

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Sep 24, 2015 11:45:10   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
GEEJAY wrote:
A company came out with a software editing for mac.It is called affinity photo.very sophisticated.Similar to photo shop cc.$49.00


It's a great program , and great at what it can do but it makes no attempt at photo organisation which I think is one of apertures + points.

Personally I use lightroom 5.7 for organisation and raw development and Affinity Photo for pixel editing, which it is very good at even running some plugins aimed at photoshop.

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Sep 24, 2015 22:36:50   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
[quote=SoShootMe]
JD750 wrote:
There was a Post almost identical to this on Sept 14 titled "iOS photos" by Effjayess. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-337023-1.html

Thanks. My laptop has updated itself miraculously, but my iMac hasn't yet--still hopeful. I'll try your links and hope for the best. Looks like you are also shooting with a D750. Great camera. Now if I can only afford lenses.

Regards,
Glenn


It's not a miracle. There is a check box for automatic updates under <Apple_Symbol> -> System Preferences->App Store. App Store is in the 4th row down in the System Preferences window. You may want to look at it on the iMac and make sure the the update boxes are checked to your liking. FYI please do not uncheck the automatic Security Updates function.

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Nov 21, 2015 00:06:34   #
Quickflash Loc: Loganville, Ga
 
I recently ran into a huge problem with my iMac after updating my operating system. I am no longer used to fixing my computer, since switching to Apple in 2007 from Windoze,which I had to fix constantly. The point is, the customer service that I received on the phone from the people at Apple was sensational! They helped me get my computer back running perfectly. They even helped me restore my iPhoto library that has over 21,000 pictures in it. With a MS system, I would have had to pay someone a lot of money to get it working or just buy a new one. I know some of you reading this will disagree because you have the ability to fix your own computer without any tech support, but the average guy don't. I may be below average in computers, so the support I get from Apple, and the fact that the need for repairs is very rare, I am one who will stay with Apple and never go back to the "Dark Side". If you like MS products, good for you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and free to make their own choice. I made mine.

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Nov 21, 2015 06:38:28   #
cmoroney Loc: Pasadena, California
 
I recently upgraded to Yosemite and Aperture runs fine. If you don't see it in the App Store, you need to click on the "previous purchases" tab and it should appear there. Then upgrade and Aperture should run as normal.

FWIW, the switch to Lightroom is a lot simpler than I thought it would be, thanks to the "Aperture Exporter" found in the App Store. At first I was
very dismayed at the thought of having to move to yet another program, but I personally find LR to be miles better than Aperture.

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