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Oct 21, 2015 23:51:56   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
I was browsing around the revamped DXOMark site and found a new to me at least comparative ranking of cameras. Actually 305 are ranked but the top 10 caught my interest. They are:

#1: Sony A7R II
#2: Nikon D810
#3: Nikon D800E
#4: Sony A7R
#5: Nikon D800
#6: Nikon D600
#7: Nikon D610
#8: Nikon D750
#9: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1
#10: PhaseOne IQ180 Digital back

The list keeps going on but this is as far as I am going. DXOMark doesn't give much information on their metrics (other than scores for portrait, landscape and sports) to support these rankings, at least not that I could find. The top-ranked APS-C camera is the Nikon D7200 in 21st place. Not surprisingly the top Canon is the EOS 5DS; surprisingly it only came in at #23.

I imagine the Nikon and Sony folks will be gloating over this, Canon and others not so much. I have a Nikon D610 and D3X, and am planning the purchase of a D810, which will give me 2 of the top 10 and 3 of the top 20.

Well what say you fellow hoggers about this? Please don't flame me; I'm only the messenger, I didn't create this chart, I'm only reporting it for commentary (I did sharpen the screen shots but this is about as good as I can display on here). The link to the full table and screen shots of the top 26 rankings follows.

http://www.dxomark.com/cameras#hideAdvancedOptions=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDxo


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Oct 21, 2015 23:55:54   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I have owned and used Nikon cameras since 1972 (hence my member name), but I am well aware that more Canon cameras are in use than Nikon cameras. This evaluation system is quite subjective.

Where are the U.S. sales numbers? World-wide sales numbers? That would be a better litmus as to preferred/most popular camera models.

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Oct 22, 2015 00:07:09   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Where are the U.S. sales numbers? World-wide sales numbers? That would be a better litmus as to preferred/most popular camera models.

I'm going to suggest that the sales numbers are irrelevant to what information is being conveyed here. This is not a popularity contest, I believe it to be a quasi-objective ranking of camera capability. By way of analogy, there are probably more BIC lighters sold than any other brand, but that doesn't necessarily mean BIC is the "best".

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Oct 22, 2015 00:22:18   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
houdel wrote:
By way of analogy, there are probably more BIC lighters sold than any other brand, but that doesn't necessarily mean BIC is the "best".
Irrelevant analogy: Bics are throw-away lighters. They are popular because they are inexpensive and dependable.
In contrast, the top Canon APS-C camera is not inexpensive, but quite dependable, leading all camera model sales:
http://www.diyphotography.net/japan-has-spoken-canon-dominates-sony-dethrones-olympus-and-nikon-stutters

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Oct 22, 2015 00:25:17   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Irrelevant analogy: Bics are throw-away lighters.

OK, Zippo then....

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Oct 22, 2015 00:25:25   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Sales numbers are the way to measure the popularity not the quality so...

Are Nikons 'Bics' as Nikonian suggests?

(And I use nikons too - funny how the world turns)

If you read the dates of release you will notice that all the first one are 'older' sometime by quite a few years... That to me is spelling 'sale numbers'. Canon on 23 after being released earlier this year shows that it a higher sales than many other models - to date.

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Oct 22, 2015 00:57:14   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
This article is a year old, but interesting:
http://digital-photography-school.com/canon-vs-nikon-a-financial-and-consumer-comparison-infographic

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Oct 22, 2015 01:00:37   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Are Nikons 'Bics' as Nikonian suggests?
I never suggested anything close to your inaccurate inference.

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Oct 22, 2015 01:36:27   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
houdel wrote:

I have a Nikon D610 and D3X, and am planning the purchase of a D810, which will give me 2 of the top 10 and 3 of the top 20.


houdel, I suggest that you get rid of those 3 crappy old outdated cameras you have and get instead the A7rll, 810 and 800e. Then you'll have the top three BEST cameras on the planet and your photography will be off the charts!!
It seems that it's pretty important to you, so go for it.
Then you'll have what so many here refer to so often as a, "NICE COLLECTION" :lol: :lol:
SS

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Oct 22, 2015 01:50:37   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
SharpShooter - Bad dog! No biscuit ! (but relevant)

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Oct 22, 2015 02:15:45   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
I never suggested anything close to your inaccurate inference.

Well, compared to Canon Nikons are inexpensive and reliable, the very definition of your 'Bics'.

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Oct 22, 2015 02:39:51   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
houdel wrote:
I was browsing around the revamped DXOMark site and found a new to me at least comparative ranking of cameras. Actually 305 are ranked but the top 10 caught my interest. They are:

#1: Sony A7R II
#2: Nikon D810
#3: Nikon D800E
#4: Sony A7R
#5: Nikon D800
#6: Nikon D600
#7: Nikon D610
#8: Nikon D750
#9: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1
#10: PhaseOne IQ180 Digital back

The list keeps going on but this is as far as I am going. DXOMark doesn't give much information on their metrics (other than scores for portrait, landscape and sports) to support these rankings, at least not that I could find. The top-ranked APS-C camera is the Nikon D7200 in 21st place. Not surprisingly the top Canon is the EOS 5DS; surprisingly it only came in at #23.

I imagine the Nikon and Sony folks will be gloating over this, Canon and others not so much. I have a Nikon D610 and D3X, and am planning the purchase of a D810, which will give me 2 of the top 10 and 3 of the top 20.

Well what say you fellow hoggers about this? Please don't flame me; I'm only the messenger, I didn't create this chart, I'm only reporting it for commentary (I did sharpen the screen shots but this is about as good as I can display on here). The link to the full table and screen shots of the top 26 rankings follows.

http://www.dxomark.com/cameras#hideAdvancedOptions=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDxo
I was browsing around the revamped DXOMark site an... (show quote)


9 of the top 10 ALL use Sony sensors.

So does the D7200.

And DxOMARK goes into great detail explaining their scoring methodology. It isn't subjective at all, but rather, based on quantifiable data.

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Oct 22, 2015 05:10:31   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
houdel wrote:
I was browsing around the revamped DXOMark site and found a new to me at least comparative ranking of cameras. Actually 305 are ranked but the top 10 caught my interest. They are:

#1: Sony A7R II
#2: Nikon D810
#3: Nikon D800E
#4: Sony A7R
#5: Nikon D800
#6: Nikon D600
#7: Nikon D610
#8: Nikon D750
#9: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1
#10: PhaseOne IQ180 Digital back

The list keeps going on but this is as far as I am going. DXOMark doesn't give much information on their metrics (other than scores for portrait, landscape and sports) to support these rankings, at least not that I could find. The top-ranked APS-C camera is the Nikon D7200 in 21st place. Not surprisingly the top Canon is the EOS 5DS; surprisingly it only came in at #23.

I imagine the Nikon and Sony folks will be gloating over this, Canon and others not so much. I have a Nikon D610 and D3X, and am planning the purchase of a D810, which will give me 2 of the top 10 and 3 of the top 20.

Well what say you fellow hoggers about this? Please don't flame me; I'm only the messenger, I didn't create this chart, I'm only reporting it for commentary (I did sharpen the screen shots but this is about as good as I can display on here). The link to the full table and screen shots of the top 26 rankings follows.

http://www.dxomark.com/cameras#hideAdvancedOptions=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDxo
I was browsing around the revamped DXOMark site an... (show quote)


DXOMark rates sensors characteristics and not cameras. It does not evaluate camera performance at all.

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Oct 22, 2015 05:20:11   #
JPL
 
houdel wrote:
I was browsing around the revamped DXOMark site and found a new to me at least comparative ranking of cameras. Actually 305 are ranked but the top 10 caught my interest. They are:

#1: Sony A7R II
#2: Nikon D810
#3: Nikon D800E
#4: Sony A7R
#5: Nikon D800
#6: Nikon D600
#7: Nikon D610
#8: Nikon D750
#9: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1
#10: PhaseOne IQ180 Digital back

The list keeps going on but this is as far as I am going. DXOMark doesn't give much information on their metrics (other than scores for portrait, landscape and sports) to support these rankings, at least not that I could find. The top-ranked APS-C camera is the Nikon D7200 in 21st place. Not surprisingly the top Canon is the EOS 5DS; surprisingly it only came in at #23.

I imagine the Nikon and Sony folks will be gloating over this, Canon and others not so much. I have a Nikon D610 and D3X, and am planning the purchase of a D810, which will give me 2 of the top 10 and 3 of the top 20.

Well what say you fellow hoggers about this? Please don't flame me; I'm only the messenger, I didn't create this chart, I'm only reporting it for commentary (I did sharpen the screen shots but this is about as good as I can display on here). The link to the full table and screen shots of the top 26 rankings follows.

http://www.dxomark.com/cameras#hideAdvancedOptions=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDxo
I was browsing around the revamped DXOMark site an... (show quote)


I also have 2 of 10 on this list. That is enough for me at the moment. But I need to correct you, Dxo is not rating or ranking cameras. It is camera sensors they are judging here.

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Oct 22, 2015 06:34:23   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
I think DXO's data is a little suspect in this case and slanted, Afterall you can skew data any way you want,

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