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Oct 20, 2015 12:12:55   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Its been done. Take a look at this video called "UV Filters - Do You Need Them Or Not?".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CLPTd6Bds&feature=youtu.be


Very insightful.

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Oct 20, 2015 12:23:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Marilyng wrote:
Awesome,thanks so much for your help.Do you know anything about Hoya uv filters?or maybe recommend a filter?


There are more expensive filters. I have found the Hoya brand to be an excellent choice for me. And do not hesitate in recommending them.

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Oct 20, 2015 13:40:33   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
There is actually 3 different filters you should be looking at, all three by Hoya, or B+W. Look into a clear coated schott glass for lens protection, a good circular polarizer, for bright sun, and reflections from standing water, and finally a variable neutral density filter. You'll need to read up on the CPL, and ND filter to learn how and when to use them. I've seen what a splatter of bird poo can do to a lens outer elements coating. But, a mounted clear glass filter not only protects the lenses outer element, but the threads on the outer edge of the lens. As for shooting snow in the backyard, the ND filter, and the CPL will be of use to you.

B

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Oct 20, 2015 14:07:54   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
If my memory is any where reliable, was it true that film was sensitive to the near UV and much less to the far UV. So it made sense to filter to block UV to avoid over-exposure. But with digital sensors, are they filtered for some cameras. In orher words, might UV filters be unnecessary beyond any physical protection affordered.

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Oct 20, 2015 14:18:39   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
John_F wrote:
If my memory is any where reliable, was it true that film was sensitive to the near UV and much less to the far UV. So it made sense to filter to block UV to avoid over-exposure. But with digital sensors, are they filtered for some cameras. In orher words, might UV filters be unnecessary beyond any physical protection affordered.


True.
But is some cases they are very valuable for front element protection.

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Oct 20, 2015 14:46:40   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Marilyng wrote:
Ok Bob I have a number 58 with a small circle with a diagonal line through it to the left of it,would that be it?


The only reason to add a UV filter is for "protection". It serves almost no other purpose on a digital camera. UV filters were used a lot back in the days of film, because many films were overly sensitive to UV light, that made for a sort of bluish haze in images. Folks saw pros using UV on their film cameras a lot, and misinterpreted that they were being used for "protection", which actually wasn't the case.

Today's digital cameras have built in UV filtration, so there really is no need for an additional filter on the front of the lens for this purpose. However, there are also clear filters that strictly only for "protection".

Still - seriously - just how much "protection" do you think a thin piece of glass can afford your lens?

If you don't already have one, your money would be much better spent on a lens hood, instead of a filter. A hood does a better job "protecting" a lens... And a properly fitted one cannot possibly harm, can only improve your images.

But, hey, if you've got money burnin' a hole in your pocket and nuthin' better to do with it... and want to follow the crowd... By all means go ahead and get a good quality, multi-coated UV or clear filter (like the Hoya HD or a B+W MRC). That way it will do minimal harm to your images in most situations.

Depending upon what you shoot, a Circular Polarizer is actually a much more useful filter for digital photography. It can improve images in certain ways that really cannot be done very well in any other way. Many other types of filters can be emulated with software... either in-camera or in post-processing. But not a C-Pol.

However, you really don't want to leave a C-Pol on your lens all the time, either. It "costs" between one and two stops of light... which is not a problem in broad sunshine, but not so great in low light situations. It also has multiple layers of glass, which increase the chance of flare and other issues in certain lighting conditions. But, C-Pol remain the single most useful type of filter for many things: scenic shots, especially, but also sometimes for portraits, macro, architecture and other purposes. They cost more, but get a good one (same brands and multi-coatings as above).

Personally I have UV filters (B+W MRC and Hoya mulit-coated) for most of my lenses. They're stored separately in my camera bag until actually needed... which really isn't very often. Probably less than 1 or 2% of my shots are under conditions such as blowing sand, sea spray, etc., where the filter's protection might actually be helpful. I use C-Pol filters far more often. And I have a couple other types of filters I only use occasionally, but still more often than the UV. The rest of the time... probably 70% of the time or more... my lenses go "naked and filterless". Somehow they've managed to survive (and I've been shooting with some of my current kit for 15 years or more... making between 25,000 to 50,000 images a year with them). I almost always use a lens hood when shooting... And the lens cap protects my lenses very well when they're stored.

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Oct 20, 2015 15:06:22   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
I tend to think polarizing filters for shooting in "snow", which I believe is what Marilyng was planning on doing. They kill the glare much like the reflection on water when used properly.

Has anyone ever tried to snow ski without polarized sunglasses or polarized goggles? Personally, I have no UV filters. I do have various circular polarizing filters though, which I consider worth their weight in gold under certain conditions.

Whichever you decide on, get the highest quality you can afford.

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Oct 20, 2015 15:26:28   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
But in some cases they are very valuable for front element protection.


Really?

You might want to go watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CLPTd6Bds&feature=youtu.be again.

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Oct 20, 2015 15:48:56   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Really? ....

Not from direct impact to the front but protection from everything else - rain, snow, mist, fingerprints, dust, sand, mud, chemicals, careless cleaning, lens cap popping off in your camera bag and a host of others.

Nothing protects you from disaster but a lens hood is a good start.

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Oct 20, 2015 15:51:29   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Hi,
I just read a couple of the responses and I'm wondering, will you be removing the filter prior to shooting? Personally, I always remove the filter with the lens cap. All the filter does is add an extra layer of protection to your lens while its in transport. When you are actually recording light through the lens, the filter, any UV filter, is just another layer of glass the light has to go through. It supplies absolutely no advantage to your camera, that is assuming you're using a digital camera, absolutely none and in some cases it's a bad thing.

Do yourself a favor and buy a cheap UV filter 'cause all it's going to do is add extra protection to the face of your lens. Remove it with the lens cap, you don't need it to filter anything. And if any of your photo buds tell you otherwise, I'd be real suspect of any other advice they give you...

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Oct 20, 2015 16:02:13   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Really?

You might want to go watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CLPTd6Bds&feature=youtu.be again.


REALLY.
Personal experience.
It did save a valuable lens from the front element from being damaged as well as the filter rings.
I know there are those who never do anything but have GAS and grand kids but there are times where the filter does provide needed protection in spite of some idiot you tube garbage.
Personal experience trumps the internet any day.

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Oct 20, 2015 16:40:30   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Wow......

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Oct 20, 2015 17:06:26   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
Marilyng wrote:
I have never used a filter before on any of my lenses.It was suggested by some of the people in my photography group that I really should start.I was looking up the Hoya HD3 ultra hard UV filters & they sounded like what I would need.I want to first just buy one for my 55-300 lens but have no idea what size to get.Could someone tell me how I choose the right one, please or is there another filter brand that is better? I don't want to spend a lot of money on them. Thanks for any help you can give.
I have never used a filter before on any of my len... (show quote)


While there are two schools of thought on the use of UV or 1A filters for the purpose of lens protection, I fall in the camp of yes and I use these. However, since the quality of glass in the filter could have an impact on image quality, I would vote for buying a good quality filter so as to get good glass in front of your front lens element. My Nikon 55-300 DX lens takes a 58mm filter. Spend a little more rather than less and buy from a reputable dealer - Adorama, B&H, etc. i.e., those recommended by fellow UHH members.

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Oct 20, 2015 18:07:52   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
selmslie wrote:
Not from direct impact to the front but protection from everything else - rain, snow, mist, fingerprints, dust, sand, mud, chemicals, careless cleaning, lens cap popping off in your camera bag and a host of others.

Nothing protects you from disaster but a lens hood is a good start.


Let's agree that in this context, "protect" means to prevent damage from an external cause.

In the well laid out examples above, I submit that NONE of the items listed (with the situational exceptions of chemicals and careless cleaning) actually present a serious threat to damage the front element of a modern lens.

A well made "protective" filter MAY change it's cleaning schedule, maybe... but not protect it.

Why not?

Because NONE of the items listed above will damage the front element under any but the most EXTREME conditions, and even then, RARELY.

MEANWHILE filters filter... that is... they degrade image quality by adding additional surfaces to refract and diffract the light before it reaches the sensor.

People can use them all the want... but NO ONE should delude themselves into thinking that they are "protecting" their lenses by using filters because they aren't.

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Oct 20, 2015 18:36:10   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Architect1776 wrote:
REALLY.
Personal experience.
It did save a valuable lens from the front element from being damaged as well as the filter rings.
I know there are those who never do anything but have GAS and grand kids but there are times where the filter does provide needed protection in spite of some idiot you tube garbage.
Personal experience trumps the internet any day.


Really? How can you be so certain the lens would have been damaged at all if the filter had not been there? Use them for impact protection if you wish, that's your choice. Tests exist that show filters don't provide impact protection for front elements. Just because the test results are counter to you personal beliefs does not make them garbage, ... or incorrect. Your anecdotal experience is not proof but opinion.

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